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Quote from: AicecreaME on March 03, 2022, 07:33:56 AM

Actually both are good, if you can swing trade then do it, if you can't because you're not confident about your current knowledge then just hodl or do stock trading instead. There's no point on using your money to something risky as trading, the answer would depends on your capability as a person who knows cryptocurrency.

That's right, it all comes back again depending on the ability of each of us,
I think that's why we need to master some skills as well as knowledge,
most importantly it is better to minimize risk because if we just do swing trading without having basic knowledge and skills then it will be risky

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Actually both are good, if you can swing trade then do it, if you can't because you're not confident about your current knowledge then just hodl or do stock trading instead. There's no point on using your money to something risky as trading, the answer would depends on your capability as a person who knows cryptocurrency.

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Quote from: redsun114 on March 01, 2022, 10:24:11 PM

Swing trading is good, Holding is also good. But not all of us can afford to have the level of patience that it is going to take us to be able to make a good amount of profit from being a HODL’er in the market. People that I have seen that were able to realize huge profit were those that held for a very long time especially before a halving and the price went up and once it reached what seems to be the peak they decide to sell.

I have been able to do this though, but the level of patience is not easy, depending on when you started though; if you’re starting prior to the market experiencing a correction, then you might have to wait longer. Swing trading , you can be making profit at anytime. It’s all about choice and if you can do swing trading.

Both holding and swing trading have pros and cons, however if you want long term maximum profit then you should go for the holding. Swing trading is best if you are well equiped with trading knowlegde and expereince and you need to earn money on a consistant basis.
You can do both holding and trading. Invest 50% of your portfolio in good coins for long term. From the remaining of the 50% portfolio, you can use that fund for swing trades.

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Quote from: Woodie on March 03, 2022, 03:15:41 AM

But between the two i would go for swing trades over holding, had it been 10 years ago when volatility was aggressive i would say hodl.

HODL is safer than anything else. But we all want to stay in a bit of an action and some drama because we are humans. Grin

So for the ones who want to play it safe, a buy low sell high approach works. Just take care of the fact that market movements sometimes dont stop and then you need to wait it out or buy even lower. The ones who panic here and have a general lack of faith in cryptocurrencies will be the ones who falter.

Even then there will be more methods for a exchange company to squeeze money out of your pocket by introducing newer methods of playing with risk. It is your choice whether you want to use them or not and whether it suits you. Spot is good if you ask me. Taking the rest of them only adds in risk to your portfolio.

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Swing trading is only nice when the trade is going your direction, otherwise if it goes against what you expected or predicted it certainly will eat through your capital and depending on how much crypto/money is on your account margin calls will be the notifications you be seeing as a liquidation call.

But between the two i would go for swing trades over holding, had it been 10 years ago when volatility was aggressive i would say hodl.

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Quote from: iv4n on March 02, 2022, 04:14:27 PM

Then you should start your swing trading with $50-$100! Trade only with top coins, it's less risky, if you get trapped add more money and try again, but keep those coins you bought for the next run, it will come sooner or later! You can't trade with your entire capital, you will come to the point where you will not have options and you will be forced to make some desperate move! In trading mistakes cost money, never forget that!

The desperate move someone can have is when the leverage used is too high. Trading with altcoins is risky, using bitcoin will be good, or some top coins like ethereum and litecoin but it is good to be careful as they are more volatile than bitcoin. $100 is too low for swing trading, you can open position for weeks until the market favors you and you gained, but it depends on individual. $100 will be good for scalping and day trading but not for swing trading or the profit will be very low and not encouraging

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 01, 2022, 03:39:05 AM

I have noticed about swing trading, you do not have to watch the chart all the time, you do not have to wake up at night to see if you are making profit already, it is not stressful, not causing emotional stress. But some traders can use a very high leverage that can make it worse.

Swing trading is not kind of active trading hence it must be shorter version of holding Cheesy

. Yeah, if you are able to predict the turning point of markets then you can go for swing trading. If you try to catch short term swings then that will lead to scalping which is one of the worst strategy in day trading at least for crypto markets.

For example, if you were able to predict bitcoin market's ATH by December 2017 and if you have managed to sell your one bitcoin around $18k to 19k levels then you might have got chances to buy back for 4x gains when bitcoin crashed to below $4k by December 2018. Same could be the another scenario where bitcoin crashed from $64k to $28k in 2021.

Swing trading needs fundamental analysis along with little bit technical analysis whereas holding just need only fundamental things hence holding is suitable for all and most other things including swing trading is suitable for "traders only".

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 01, 2022, 03:39:05 AM

If you have like $1000 to trade...

Then you should start your swing trading with $50-$100! Trade only with top coins, it's less risky, if you get trapped add more money and try again, but keep those coins you bought for the next run, it will come sooner or later! You can't trade with your entire capital, you will come to the point where you will not have options and you will be forced to make some desperate move! In trading mistakes cost money, never forget that!

Quote from: ReiMomo on March 02, 2022, 12:22:28 PM

Holding would be the best option I would prefer. Yes Swing trading is a good option but it requires constant attention on the market and it takes away the energy and time. Day trading / swing trading will bring small profits but yes it would be interesting and you can learn a lot but at the same time when market does not move as you expect, you would loose patience and money as well. Holding yes requires attention on the market and patience is so important and this is what will bring a huge profit.

Well, holding is holding, we all should have some holdings, but we should also have some fun here and there and maybe make some profit! Why not explore the crypto world? There are so many opportunities around us that we can try and if it turns out that we can be good at it we can even make some profit! It's risky, but what isn't in this life? Sometimes risking what you can afford to lose and having fun is all it takes to learn more about the world around you, and yes sometimes it will turn out to be a mistake (we also learn from that), but sometimes you can find something interesting that can be also profitable!

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Quote from: doomloop on March 02, 2022, 08:02:15 AM

Everything you’re doing the cryptocurrency market has to do with investing with what you can afford to lose. I don’t think there is anything you would do in this market that you wouldn’t have to be careful and only invest what you can lose, since everything you’re doing in the market involves risk. Even HODL involves risk, same as when you’re doing swing trading.

So, risk are always involved no matter what you choose, because it’s still the same cryptocurrency that you’re dealing and the price will keep on going up and down. For me, I don’t really have that much choice, I do the both of them. HODL seems like a normal thing that anyone would do, I believe that most of us has coins that are stored in one of our secure wallets and we are not touching it. Then we have the ones that we keep on exchanges that we use for whatever trading we choose to do.

There are levels of risks involved though. Like holding for years has a lot less risk whereas swing trading has more risks, and high leverage trading has even more risks. So, you are right that everything has a risk, but that doesn't change the fact that you are going to end up with something a lot less risky with the holding part, and a big more risks with swing trading. Doesn't mean that you should be going for something like holding just because it has less risk.

If you are willing to part with your money and it is money that you are willing to lose and risk, then you could do even 150x leverage on shorting bitcoin right now, that's risky but if you are right then it worths a lot of money.

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Holding would be the best option I would prefer. Yes Swing trading is a good option but it requires constant attention on the market and it takes away the energy and time. Day trading / swing trading will bring small profits but yes it would be interesting and you can learn a lot but at the same time when market does not move as you expect, you would loose patience and money as well. Holding yes requires attention on the market and patience is so important and this is what will bring a huge profit.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 01, 2022, 03:39:05 AM

I have noticed about swing trading, you do not have to watch the chart all the time, you do not have to wake up at night to see if you are making profit already, it is not stressful, not causing emotional stress

These is true if you are swing traders you don't need so much time to monitor your trade because sometimes it takes days or weeks before you can reach your target profit.

and lastly it depends on the situation of the growth rate of your coin if its all accurate based on your speculation. I mean if you don't see any negative sign its all fine to hold..

Quote from: Oshosondy on March 01, 2022, 03:39:05 AM

The market increase and decrease in the two directions, this is the chance that most swing traders are having, they can be losing for long, the market will correct back and they will gain.

Yhup most trades when it comes swing trading has not good results at first, but after all you still can win because market makes correction based of the structure of the market and keep following the real trend in the graph.

Quote from: Oshosondy on March 01, 2022, 03:39:05 AM

1x is good for swing trading but to what leverage can you go for swing trading in an extreme volatile market that has never resulted to liquidation of your trading asset? Your replies should be what you have been experiencing in swing trading and not just what you think.

Or better to just hold with $1000?

Actually if you're using leverage it depends which for you is good to use. I mean if you are really comfortable in your strategy i would say even higher leverage is good to use especially if you have good risk management it will be fine.

However if you don't have trust on your strategy, i think much better to rely with 1x and don't try your luck with higher leverage to prevent massive losses.

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Listen, everyone wants to make money from trading, no one wants to lose anyway. So the swing trade was easier than everyone would move there. But it's not what you are thinking. Always not happen what we expect exactly in our life. Same as swing trade is risky as well. It's very important to know technical analysis to predict the chart movements for swing traders where holding is easier. Swing is almost day trading just a matter of time duration.

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Swing trading is the best strategy if your money you are risking is what you can afford to lose since you will highly dependent on your price setup and you can have a terrible lose if the price moves in different direction to your target selling point. I believe holding is still the best in crypto due to its volatility, you can have a profit without a stressful trading if you will ignore paper loss. But of course this discussion ill be highly case to case basis and expect more objective answer to come.

Everything you’re doing the cryptocurrency market has to do with investing with what you can afford to lose. I don’t think there is anything you would do in this market that you wouldn’t have to be careful and only invest what you can lose, since everything you’re doing in the market involves risk. Even HODL involves risk, same as when you’re doing swing trading.

So, risk are always involved no matter what you choose, because it’s still the same cryptocurrency that you’re dealing and the price will keep on going up and down. For me, I don’t really have that much choice, I do the both of them. HODL seems like a normal thing that anyone would do, I believe that most of us has coins that are stored in one of our secure wallets and we are not touching it. Then we have the ones that we keep on exchanges that we use for whatever trading we choose to do.

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Swing trading is good, Holding is also good. But not all of us can afford to have the level of patience that it is going to take us to be able to make a good amount of profit from being a HODL’er in the market. People that I have seen that were able to realize huge profit were those that held for a very long time especially before a halving and the price went up and once it reached what seems to be the peak they decide to sell.

I have been able to do this though, but the level of patience is not easy, depending on when you started though; if you’re starting prior to the market experiencing a correction, then you might have to wait longer. Swing trading , you can be making profit at anytime. It’s all about choice and if you can do swing trading.

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whether swing trading, or long trading and short trading, all have their own advantages and disadvantages. many actually do all three, which have different levels of risk so they have different treatments. indeed day trading is more complicated than swing, but it can be used as daily income for every trader

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As long you dont touch leverage/futures then you do always have the chance for some recovery whether you are dealing with short/daytrades since you could always have the opt to hold with those

unrealized losses or floating negatives unlike when you are liquidated which is a different story.When it comes to swings then this is similar or same with trend trading on which you do stick out on a
particular timeframe and observe some biases specially on 1d to 1wk TF which technicals could really be seen.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 01, 2022, 03:39:05 AM

1x is good for swing trading but to what leverage can you go for swing trading in an extreme volatile market that has never resulted to liquidation of your trading asset? Your replies should be what you have been experiencing in swing trading and not just what you think.

Or better to just hold with $1000?

If you only have 1000 dollars to your name to trade then most likely the level of experience you have while swing trading is low and as such the answer to your question is simple, do not use leverage at all, there is a concept called risk of bankruptcy and this basically tells you how likely it is that you will lose all your capital while you trade, and anything other than zero is unacceptable, because if that number is not zero then it means that at some point no matter how unlikely you think it is you will lose everything, and adding leverage is one of the fastest ways to raise that risk substantially.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on March 01, 2022, 10:26:48 AM

I am not capable of doing swing trading all that well, not impossible but requires too much time and too much effort for too much risk for me. I would be able to do it if it was a bit more guaranteed income, but obviously it is not, because nothing is guaranteed in swing trading.

However holding is not like that, you could hold for years and it is almost guaranteed that you will make money, and on top of that it requires to effort at all. You just hold it... literally means not do anything. That is how I have been making most of my money, obviously I do trade a bit but that doesn't mean that I keep trading it all the time neither, just a bit here and there.

But the OP said that swing trading is easy. Are you sure that what your talking about is swing trading? But, if you want to earn more profit you must be willing to dedicate more time, effort and enter much risk. Nothing is easy money here in crypto and most importantly there is no such thing here as guaranteed income because cryptos are unstable.

If you want guaranteed income then you better work on a real job. For me there is no need to choose between swing trading and holding but I can do them both because both risks can be manageable. If I have 1k, I can divide it to the both of them and for the leverage i think I am only good at 1x.

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The difference between swing trading and day trading is usually the length of the position. Swing trading typically involves at least overnight holdings, while day traders close their positions before the market closes.

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I am not capable of doing swing trading all that well, not impossible but requires too much time and too much effort for too much risk for me. I would be able to do it if it was a bit more guaranteed income, but obviously it is not, because nothing is guaranteed in swing trading.

However holding is not like that, you could hold for years and it is almost guaranteed that you will make money, and on top of that it requires to effort at all. You just hold it... literally means not do anything. That is how I have been making most of my money, obviously I do trade a bit but that doesn't mean that I keep trading it all the time neither, just a bit here and there.

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