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Quote from: adzino on June 06, 2020, 09:43:45 AM

I am talking about NBA over here.

Even in all sports apart from courts, there is what is called home advantage. Either the pitch gives the morale and advantage or the umpires do that either intentional too.
Advantage is there in the home., I have seen soccer teams winning because of home advantage from cheering from the spectators.

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Yeah, true. The stats speaks, team playing at home are always seem to have better chance to win than playing away. I guess it is because of those all psychological affect. They tend to perform better as the crowd cheers for them, being used to playing at the same court and referee being bias (its kinda true Roll Eyes

). So even without the crowd, the home team still be getting some advantage. I am talking about NBA over here.

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Quote from: iv4n on June 06, 2020, 05:08:58 AM

For sure, without full stadiums and fans it will not be the same.

Obviously because the situation now is different, remember covid-19 already infected over 2 million people all over the world.

Quote from: iv4n on June 06, 2020, 05:08:58 AM

But here we talk about professionals, they will play no matter what. With fans or without, on rain or snow, angry fans or peace, they will give their best, that makes them professionals! For sure some players like to have fans, but I am sure that some players hate it, all in all the quiet peace on the stadium will help some players with their concentration.
I will join here with some members who say that bad team will lose wherever they play, and good time will try to give their best in every game, home or away it's not matter.

They have a contract, they have to follow that, that's what professionals do, otherwise, their future will be compromise in a sport that they dream to play with when they are still not part of the league, if the organizer of the league will say they can play, it's almost assured that they are doing all the measures to protect their players against the virus. It might not be as fun as before, but in the current time, security is the main priority.

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For sure, without full stadiums and fans it will not be the same. But here we talk about professionals, they will play no matter what. With fans or without, on rain or snow, angry fans or peace, they will give their best, that makes them professionals! For sure some players like to have fans, but I am sure that some players hate it, all in all the quiet peace on the stadium will help some players with their concentration.
I will join here with some members who say that bad team will lose wherever they play, and good time will try to give their best in every game, home or away it's not matter.

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Quote from: smyslov on June 04, 2020, 12:31:14 PM

It will be like an exhibition games without those audiences, I wonder what it would be like playing in a championship without the audiences, that will not be as excited like before they have audiences for these sporting events, this is going to be first time that it's going to happen and I would like to see how it will impact the team.

That will be no problem to watch the games without audiences because that will prevent people from the virus.
People will be safe at their home while they can watch the games with their family and doing other things.
I think the feeling will be different, but that is what necessary things that we can do in this pandemic.
We can not risk our lives to visit on that stadium to watch live games because we can get infected from other people who we don't know if they are a carrier or not.
That will be temporary situations while we still fight against the virus, and if the vaccine can get found, I think we can go to any place we want without worry.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on June 06, 2020, 01:35:26 AM

Even if the matches are played without the crowd and public, there is still the advantage and pressure of home Court. The team who is playing at home has more pressure to win the game because if they lose the media will harass them for not playing good in the home country.

Well, that's the job of the media, they should get used to that, we are just talking of a home court advantage here, a shitty team will always lose no matter what advantage you will give to them, media is here to hype or criticize them because they are a public figure, they make money from the public so if that will pressure them, that would help a team to get better.

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Quote from: shoreno on June 04, 2020, 01:31:42 AM

Quote from: MCobian on June 03, 2020, 07:59:13 PM

The sporting events that are starting now will be different because of the CONVID19 pandemic, for matches held at home.
It is no longer an advantage, because there is no live audience.

no live audience at home court but what about when teams are away ? still no audience ? depends on the country i guess .

if the country has a less case of virus , we can see audience . let say if there are no audience on home court but the field is still memorized by the home team so its still an advantage for them to win the game . crowd or audience are only secondary that can boost the game .

Even if the matches are played without the crowd and public, there is still the advantage and pressure of home Court. The team who is playing at home has more pressure to win the game because if they lose the media will harass them for not playing good in the home country.

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Interesting topic you brought here, especially that we can now witness a new normal scene in any of the sports events.

To answer generally the subject, "YES", being in a homecourt advantage is still an advantage. Not as hype as before as fans cheer really boost player's confidence (I've been in a live basketball game (PBA) several times here in our country and audience impact is really a big factor) but there's still habit that once you are playing at home, we feel energized.

I don't know the actual new setup for other sports but I will share my view in the NBA. In the NBA, there will be no home-away court since all teams will play in one venue. That's right, no travel, no audience (or less), etc. - all in one venue. In here, we can now remove the advantage of being in a homecourt and they just have to always play hard.

Browsing a few pages, I also read that one of the advantages of being in a homecourt is less travel.

Actually, that's not the case most of the time. If a home team came from away team, it's no difference at all, they will still travel going back to their home then vice-versa. The only time it will be an advantage to the team is, if they will play on a home team consecutively but that's not the case most of the time (basketball).

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Quote from: Tipstar on June 04, 2020, 05:13:38 AM

Home advantage is more about the field than about the audience. Audience mostly are a pressure while players doing practices on the field almost everyday are well aware of every slight angles and imperfections of the ground. They are much familiar to external factors like sun and the wind.

Ofcourse! Weather plays an important role too.

I think it's combination of different factors that aid a home team... Factors like environment, field, weather, supporters, people, culture, community, etc. That's why players are made to acclimatize or adapt to their new environments.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on June 04, 2020, 04:26:58 PM

So i would say that advantages/disadvantages thing wont really be that an issue.

There's only one way to find out, and that is by witnessing the games and we will evaluate once the playoffs is over and compare it to the past statistics based on what OP has posted. It's the first time that the NBA will play without crowd (correct me if I'm wrong), so we would not know.

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Quote from: DarkDays on June 04, 2020, 05:37:34 AM

I don't think it's necessarily all because of the audience.

Sure, having the entire audience against you can definitely be draining, while being cheered for is a huge motivation, but I think it's also the result of the way the games are judged on home turf. Teams playing on home turf seem to be more likely to get favorable decisions when issues arise mid-game. This can lead to opposition players being disqualified more, home team getting away with slight cheating etc.

That said, I do think the crowd is a huge aspect of it, so the gap might be closed if we don't have live audience games anymore.

+1

We can actually see that kind of favorable decisions situation but only on the slightest manner but you can actually spot it out if you are really watching NBA games
and do know on how violations or rules are implied.

Crowd might not really be that important for some but we know that they could at least give out some bumps or motivation on the said team into its home court
but doesnt mean that performance is majorly depending on it.

So i would say that advantages/disadvantages thing wont really be that an issue.

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Quote from: Bezobraznike on June 04, 2020, 07:56:16 AM

We can't do anything Carlisle1, I agree with you! Don't get me wrong, I just thing that it will not be the
same, and that playing without audience will have effects on players and their performance! Audience is
making entire experience complete!
And I don't suggest anything, things will get back to normal I hope, but until than we will have to watch
games with empty stadiums! And for making bets we need to consider that, maybe home team advantage
is really lost, and it will be like that until we get back to normal!

It will be like an exhibition games without those audiences, I wonder what it would be like playing in a championship without the audiences, that will not be as excited like before they have audiences for these sporting events, this is going to be first time that it's going to happen and I would like to see how it will impact the team.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on June 04, 2020, 05:29:02 AM

Quote from: Bezobraznike on June 04, 2020, 04:00:40 AM

If you didn't know I will tell you, for fans they say they are additional player to the team. If fans are crazy,
loud, if they support their team, if they bother opponents with loud yelling when they attack.

So what you mean here is having no Live audience is disadvantage?as if you can do something to reverse the situation?

why not just adopt about what is the set up now?you can demand that audience if available but now?either accept it or not but you have no choice.

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Some teams have so big support from fans and I think playing without audience will be a different experience
for some players, attackers! They have most support from fans, for whom they will play now and have special
dances after scoring a goal?

then tell me what can we do now?do we need to let people enter the stadium illegally so you can have your audience?

Man be realistic,this is life now and players must adopt or else they have nothing to win.

We can't do anything Carlisle1, I agree with you! Don't get me wrong, I just thing that it will not be the
same, and that playing without audience will have effects on players and their performance! Audience is
making entire experience complete!
And I don't suggest anything, things will get back to normal I hope, but until than we will have to watch
games with empty stadiums! And for making bets we need to consider that, maybe home team advantage
is really lost, and it will be like that until we get back to normal!

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Quote from: Taskford on June 04, 2020, 06:38:38 AM

Provably there's still an impact regarding on playing on home court since you are familiarized on each corner on the court but this will not give any assurance for the team to win the game since it's all matter on the result and the team chemistry by playing as well the roosters health. But I wonder on how the teams adjust the non audience court since for sure its so different scenery to play without people cheering or mocking at you.

Adjusting is not a problem to them, they know the situation beforehand, so they should be ready by it now.
They just like to play now for sure, without a fans, not a problem since they know that millions of people are watching them live on their television.

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Provably there's still an impact regarding on playing on home court since you are familiarized on each corner on the court but this will not give any assurance for the team to win the game since it's all matter on the result and the team chemistry by playing as well the roosters health. But I wonder on how the teams adjust the non audience court since for sure its so different scenery to play without people cheering or mocking at you.

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I don't think it's necessarily all because of the audience.

Sure, having the entire audience against you can definitely be draining, while being cheered for is a huge motivation, but I think it's also the result of the way the games are judged on home turf. Teams playing on home turf seem to be more likely to get favorable decisions when issues arise mid-game. This can lead to opposition players being disqualified more, home team getting away with slight cheating etc.

That said, I do think the crowd is a huge aspect of it, so the gap might be closed if we don't have live audience games anymore.

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Quote from: chaser15 on June 02, 2020, 04:40:27 PM

With some sports likely to resume in next month or few, or being resumed recently, after being suspended or halted due to Covid-19 pandemic spread, one safety measure that will be imposed is a no-live-audience, literally playing without audience presence and we can see some sports already feel the experience of playing on that environment.

A no-audience game will surely imposed with this games especially in NBA where they are starting to make new rules already and they are planning things already as they are planning to resume I think next month if I remember correctly. Well, I know that some players will be better if there are some audiences watching them but they can't do anything but to follow since we are in a pandemic right now.

Quote from: chaser15 on June 02, 2020, 04:40:27 PM

What do you think, does this home-court advantage, still an advantage now? Do you think Moneyline odds will now be different from now on especially if both teams are equal in strength?

I think the odds of it in the betting sites will be adjusted now that there are no homecourt advantage but not that much since it will still depend on how strong the teams are.

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Quote from: Bezobraznike on June 04, 2020, 04:00:40 AM

If you didn't know I will tell you, for fans they say they are additional player to the team. If fans are crazy,
loud, if they support their team, if they bother opponents with loud yelling when they attack.

So what you mean here is having no Live audience is disadvantage?as if you can do something to reverse the situation?

why not just adopt about what is the set up now?you can demand that audience if available but now?either accept it or not but you have no choice.

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Some teams have so big support from fans and I think playing without audience will be a different experience
for some players, attackers! They have most support from fans, for whom they will play now and have special
dances after scoring a goal?

then tell me what can we do now?do we need to let people enter the stadium illegally so you can have your audience?

Man be realistic,this is life now and players must adopt or else they have nothing to win.

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Home advantage is more about the field than about the audience. Audience mostly are a pressure while players doing practices on the field almost everyday are well aware of every slight angles and imperfections of the ground. They are much familiar to external factors like sun and the wind.

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Quote from: Wexnident on June 04, 2020, 01:01:10 AM

The live audience is just one factor of home-court advantage imo. There's the fact that home-court gives players the edge to understanding the place. It's a kind of abstract feeling where they feel at home, thereby boosting their confidence. The audience is just one factor added in there. And also, if there's a positive feeling, there's also a negative feeling which is the visiting players. More specifically, I'm describing the concept of a foreign entity kind of like environment where you don't know where you are and the like. Not sure if it could serve as an example but you can think of it as a king visiting a foreign country for negotiation talks. Normally, the two kingdoms are fighting but since King A decided to visit, his sense of unbelonging inside the other kingdom brings about negative effects not only to his but also to his retainers.

Yeah it is one factor,,, and not necessary positive. I remember when Spurs had a new "home" at Wembley it was very different and it took us some getting used to.

For some teams, they may even face more pressure from fans. Making home advantage a disadvantage because you can feel it when the crowd is pressuring you.

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