Topic: Homelessness has no obvious solution? Wasteful use of resources (Read 341 times)

I think his ODSP/OW will cover it in Canada and if he spends 3 months clean it will be cheaper than the heroin. You can`t bill people that don`t have a address either

I'll ask from a point of view of a capitalist: if they don't need money, why don't they spend what they have on food and shelter. It's much cheaper than drugs and booze.
Isn't giving them good conditions for free like casting pearls before swine? Many of these people have families and friends, but they choose the street.


I agree. Abandoned property should be rented out to homeless people in exchange for caretaking. There are abandoned buildings wasting away everywhere and the police is throwing squatters out just like that. If they are on drugs they should be offered help, but many won't take it. They're too proud, or like that way of life.


You did a good deed, but rehab isn't free. Once he sobers up and sees the bill, he'll resign. Even going through detox will cost him >$1000 and that's just the beginning, unless in your country it's free somehow.

Again these people do not need money, they need food, water and shelter (and a clean environment to to get on their feet)
Have you been to the homeless shelters here? I have, I lived in them, I choose the street/sleeping in McDonald`s because there was less drug addicts there.

In fact by now all of taxes should have payed for everyone to have food, water and shelter. WHERE IS MY BUNKER?

You know what I did yesterday? I saw a boy shooting up heroin on the street, I ended up talking him out of using anymore (he threw the rest of his shit in the garbage) just from me talking to him, We went to the rehab center, He asked me how I got clean, I told him I did it for myself. He thanked me like a million times (he was still tripping).  He had the same story as me, being taken into the hospital and having doctors inject him with who knows what and superscribing shit he does not need so they make money. I told him the doctors are worse than drug dealers, they don`t even know they are drug dealers. Anyways he told me he would not touch anything other than weed again. I told him weed is not a big deal same thing as coffee a plant you heat up and it gives you a little bit of a buzz. He thanked me for not judging him as we walked into the rehab center, I said don`t worry about it but you need to help yourself no one else can. I hope he gets clean and stays clean.

Some people want to be homeless. It's not like every homeless person is there because they have no money! Homeless people can earn pretty decent money just sitting with a can. £20 a day in London would be a low income for a homeless person and this can buy you 3 decent meals, a pack of cigs and some alcohol to wash it down. Most people can earn more than that. I saw how they manage. They steal, find things lying around and use them, usually have a warm place to sleep where they come back every day. They choose that life usually because their addiction doesn't let them keep a stable job. They got fired a couple times for coming to work wasted or on drugs and stopped trying.

Dare I say, they built the economic system around them. It also helped that they made sure they have a strategic presence everywhere to quickly respond to events that might go against their interest. This served them so well that it's one of the first thing China is trying to challenge (a canal in Nicaragua to compete with Panama, a base in Chad, etc).

The society today is in a deep misunderstanding which have hard advise effect on the young people and depression have set I  which have lead to them finding an escape root which result into drug use and other substances that make them escape the reality for some time. What the citizens need is not drugs and hospitals but activities that get the profitably engage and avoid depression.

Yeah, people forget that the big reason that the US has the immense influence it has it that many nations rely on it for intelligence, defense, tech sharing, selling of military items, etc.

The US isn't just this world nation because of them being nice and trading, they've built themselves into it with our immense strength. Yet again, not saying if any of this is good or bad -- just stating that it is present.

The US spend too much on military yes, I don't agree with NASA fund cuts though. The race for space colonization is just at its early stages, it would suck big time if the US would fall behind it.

Being first would allow America to extract resources from a previously untapped source. Think of how the New World finally allowed the Europeans to fight off the Ottomans who stagnated and lacked access to all those New World resources.


That and the support it's giving the Middle East. It's practically the US military that guarantees the dollar's value.

Alright thats fair squatz, and it would definitely have a large effect.  A lot of us think America spends way too much on its military budget but they may be the main thing keeping the dollar as the world currency.

I'm not advocating for anything. I'm just saying that people do have to understand the economic impact that our military has.

Not supporting (or for that matter, not supporting) anything. Just simply stating a fact.

squatz is advocating for a big military budget because it creates jobs?.....

bits has it correct, the goal is to eliminate jobs altogether with technology and have enough basic needs for every person.

The state of big cities in America is terrible, especially on the west coast.  I think the wealthy get some type of sick thrill when seeing people in absolute poverty.  Or they want to keep their other workers scared when they see homeless and they act like a good little employee.

So we want to proceed for making the devil's army because "An idle mind is a devil's workshop" .
 

Unbiased machines created by biased humans.

Look like you want to go back to prehistoric ages when we have food ,houses and water.

Well to avoid homelessness, there's need to first, prevent it. Meaning stopping people from becoming homeless in the first place) And when homeless, we should find smart ways to provide emergency supports like shelter, day programs, food, clothing among others.

The goal is to eliminate jobs/work, not create them. These politicians have it backwards.
You don`t even need to cut the military funding, just have the military do something more productive.

On a scale of 1-10 How many people like there work?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqZfTw0od4k (They almost killed me when I was 19, 8 of them, I was in cuffs, I did nothing.. did not mouth off or anything, take a look at my mugshot, half my face is gone)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hip1YYYgTvE
https://youtu.be/W-oALE5FyGE?t=41
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFvU5AGs02U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXwQ2fxsnuo

I don`t need to list more videos, there is billions of videos of nurse beatings, kids spitting in your food, Officer beatings, farmers cutting corners (food supply's being tainted). I could show you examples for days.

We want to rely less on humans and more on decentralized computers and robots to provide safe and unbiased decisions.
I vote for robocop.  

There is Universal jobs, voting, space exploration, art, dancing, music, learning, judges. We don`t need jobs. We need food, houses and water.

Don`t worry big farmers spray this on your food because it is cheaper than cow shit and just hoeing around the weeds. You eat it to ^_^

Bayer rocked by record $2 billion Roundup verdict
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/14/business/bayer-roundup-verdict/index.html
2 billion to a couple, wait till everyone else realizes what they been eating.

By the way the amount that is in beer and bread, is ridiculous per parts. "Round up" good name for it.  
You like soy? lol... that shit has the most roundup all over it. Almost everything nowadays has some soy b.s. in it.

Build islands out of the homeless.

How about this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjnrkVdQwZc

How much ammo do you think was wasted that we could use as resources in the future? How much do you think we paid in taxes for this? all the workers and ammunition, if converted into housing and farms would be of enormous amounts.  

If every rocket and bullet they shot at earth was converted into farms, no one would have to worry about food anywhere in the entire world.

We will not be able to jump universes if we keep wasting resources, sure fiat is unlimited, gold is not, other metals are not.
I know if I was the creator I would make sure you don`t have enough to leave you solar system until you shaped up.

It is not just America guilty of these crimes against all of humanity, it is most of the countries.

You ever play warcraft? or stacraft? any real time strategy? chess?

When the goldmine runs out or mineral line, there is no more. You can`t build anything anymore! You are stuck. CHECKMATE

This is a global issue, we need to do some serious calculations before we send anything else to space.

Yes they do waste a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlReBmHuM5k Here we see our tax dollars going to waste water.

Why not have the military build housing, shelters, fresh water lines, farms for the people and themselves? Instead of invading other countries and destroying theirs?

I respect the military don`t get me wrong. I have good friends in it. If I did any of that stuff in the videos tho, at my job I would be fired.

Do you understand the implications of cutting something like the military budget in half though? The US military is currently the largest single employer in the United States,currently employing 3.2 million people.

That doesn't include all of the people that are employed indirectly by the US military, which would include hundreds of thousands of US contractors. Plus the fact that these employees are creating more and more business with their salaries -- as they're creating jobs for people that supply their consumption (consumption meaning food, recreation, etc)

While I don't personally think this is the best use of the money as the US military does waste an absolute shit ton of money on things it doesn't need, people can't underestimate the economic impact (around the world) that the US posseses with their military.

I just went for a walk to the C.N tower and back

I saw the words DRUG STORE, DRUG MART, SMOKE SHOP, BAR

at least 30 times on my walk, what do you think goes through kids minds when they see these? Why not called it medicine, kids hate meds.
 
I saw at least 50 homeless people (granted most of them have a home they just milking the tax payers more) But there was at least 10 of them that are living in the timmies or mcdonalds at night. I know the real homeless people.  

These people don`t need money to buy drugs and booze with.
They need food, water and shelter.

I had to take a piss really bad on my walk, I went into about 5 stores before I found one that would let me take a piss in it, no wonder they shit and piss in the streets.

Words I never saw, homeless shelter, free medical assistance.

I saw a piece of trash ever 3 steps, these people sleeping in Timmies and McDonalds at night, why not hire these people so they can get on their feet.

I saw over 50 bikes tied to post, missing tires, seats, handlebars and rust on them that looks like they been there for over 5 years.

I saw the legal marijuana place run by the government with a hugh pot leaf symbol out front, I saw an illegal one where it just looks like a coffee shop in the front, but in the back after you get id you see pot related stuff.