Topic: Homophobic (or racist) celebrities. (Read 2570 times)

The one with Stephen Fry?

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Finnish-TV aired documentary about homophobia in Russia few weeks a go. I think it was filmed in Moscow by BBC. It was pretty disgusting to watch, because it was so clear that political institutions and police forces pretty much allowed hate crimes against gays.

He is one as well as a lot of officials in Russia. Homophobia seems to be institutional there.

I've seen a gif somewhere, where putin seems like homophobe.

Wow, you really are vile if you genuinely think like this. Hard to believe people do.

In general this is a conservative country. We had a gay pride in a past, and people where bothered enough to visit and fling rotten eggs and bags with shit (literary) onto pride participants. Multiple cases of seniors trying to beat up a participant. To them it's a great shame and offense, and these old people can get pretty involved. It's a popular opinion, that EU is bringing this to this country, and people jokingly say "joining gayrope" or "accepting gayropean values".

Of course it's a bit too much, but then again why should we let them to march through our streets promoting such alien ideas to our society?
We ourselves do not have openly gay celebrities. One priest, who uses that to earn $$$ and attention. One news anchor, who's actually born in Chicago. There's also one singer, local Ricky Martin, if you will. But he's not coming out any soon, so those could be rumors.

It's like in Arcade Fire song "We Exist" (another example going along my original post). It's impossible to ignore the fact that they exist. But I do hope someone can shut em up, so they can exist silently.

Of course they're not. I've worked with a few in the past *bloody immigrants*. Jk. Sadly, I don't think he is a troll, but there's always going to be ignorance wherever you come from.

Wow, I hope all Latvians don't think like this. I hope you're just a troll.

He doesn't. He's just ridiculously and laughably as ignorant and naive as Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is and everybody else who claims there's no gays or hardly any in their country. It's no surprise gays usually tend to keep it to themselves when you've got oppressive homophobic idiots like PrintMule in their country. I find it ironic you're so against Fundamentalist Christians or Muslims. You'd make a great one.


Haha, of course you don't read them  , but nice try in passively responding to my theory.


Again, this is just mostly anti-Islamist / racist propaganda you're buying into. These unbacked stories that you peddle here are the same I hear from English racists. They claim Islam is taking over because there's a few mosques and a couple of Sharia “Courts” and claim that we must respect them and bow to their wishes when this is usually just how xenophobes feel when they're threatened by people who are different. In the UK Sharia Courts have zero legal power. In fact, anyone can create their own court, but it will have zero power. These stories of Muslims refusing to handle alcohol or pork are usually always bullshit. Many Muslims operate shops and off-licences that sell both alcohol and pork, so yet again, more ignorant bullshit from you. I saw a story the other day that racists on Facebook were sharing about how British soldiers had been banned from an English pub because they offended the local Muslims. Ironic given that Muslims don't drink, but you people (racists and Islamaphobes) see this crap and just believe it because it fits your agenda. I and other intelligent people see it as bullshit propaganda and check the facts, which guess what, 99.9% of the time turns out to be bullshit or greatly exaggerated.


How does it negatively effect things? It will only negatively effect you if you have a problem with gays which obviously you do (and I'd love to know why?). It only makes controversy to those that find it repugnant or controversial (and, sorry to say this, but being gay in 2014 isn't). I also fail to understand how having a gay character caters to larger audiences? You just seem offended by the inclusion of gay characters, and there should be gay characters included in games, because, guess what, there are gay characters in real life (or apparently there isn't in Latvia – what sort of backwards country are you living in?).


Hahaha. OMG turbans! It's the end of our culture and country! Muslims and Sikhs are ruining our police uniforms! You see, this is how pathetic and pedantic you descend to, because you just don't like these people and a turban offends you. I'm from the UK and I've never seen a policeman wearing a turban, though if I did I can't think why it's much different from a helmet. I think that's the great thing about this country; you can wear what you want even if it does offend the ignorant. I can walk the streets wearing nothing but a studded leather thong and a balaclava over my head if I wanted and people can't do shit about it nor should they be able to.

Oh, I'd love to know how Muslims or Sikhs have affected your social life because they've affected my social life and things around me zero.


You'd be surprised. A lot of homophobes are actually latent homosexuals themselves and can't handle their feelings or are scared by their thoughts. Why do you dislike them so much? It's very interesting. Maybe you should look deeper at why you dislike certain people so much, because as with most racists it's usually because you hate and are angry with yourself. These kind of beliefs are usually born out of ignorance and people's need to blame someone else for their failings and insecurities in life, so they blame Muslims and immigrants and blah blah blah.

I recommend googling the psychology of racism and have a look at that.

Data on immigrants is easily available, and you don't meet them in your daily life.
Gays - of course there could be a lot of them, but they are universally repressed and frown upon, so they try not to show themselves .

C'mon, how could you know that? Didn't Iran's president say something similar?

It says in my profile - Latvia

We are ~65% Latvians ~35% Russians
We are not an atheist country, like, for example, Norway is.
It was a hypothetical statement.
We have almost no gays or immigrants though.

Out of interest what country do you live in?

Plenty of Hollywood and Hiphop biggies, no?

There is no way to determine that. Only indication of ignore status - is when a user is ignored by increased amount of people - his ignored button will change color. And to check that - you can view your post as a guest. Some users keep you on ignore, just identify your posts, but still read them via show/hide button. I don't, out of the principle.

I remember that one from the news blogs on youtube. After his remarked he was forced to apologize multiple times.

I, personally, care because it affects our media culture in a negative (for me) way. For example- in some shows they've started to include gay characters just for the sake of appearance, to cater to larger audience. In a video game Mass Effect there's a character Kaiden, who's suddenly turned gay in a final installment. Which makes nothing except controversy. Although one of the Main Themes of mass effect is multiculturalism and tolerance, I have no problem with that one because it's very well written and executed. Instead for the Kaiden and some other bits. Or in Harry Potter kids, Dubledore suddenly is gay after 6 years. Is that a publicity stunt or what? Russian pop group t.a.t.u. - posing as lesbian singer couple to rake up attention, while secretly having ordinary lives with boyfriends  and plans to marry. Because posing as heterosexual would not get you that far. In older time you could cater to one type of audience. But nowadays - being gay caters to both audiences.

Also it affects our social life and things around us. For example - policemen in U.K. always had their uniform look, and there are policemen in turbans. They are so special, that they can walk over rules. ID photos in hijabs. TSA privileges for people wearing hijabs. Sharia in workplaces. Guy working as a cashier who won't handle a meat, or alcohol. I wonder if there was a public lawsuit about muslim bartender fired for not serving drinks . Those are the little things. There's also a requirement of you to respect their laws, to KNOW their laws. Like it would be required of me to know christian religion good enough to avoid possible blasphemy. Well "fuck you" to that if I live in atheist country, with a wave of christian immigrants coming into my neighborhood.

About sounding gay - never thought that vulgarity on this matter served as indicator for someone.

A good answer, never thought about rap musicians that way. They have a requiremnt of being percieved as manly and hetero as possible to thrive in their culture. It's actually pretty funny. There were some hilarious comic sketches about gay rappers. In SNL and also in animated series Boondocks.

Thanks

Can you not make a constructive argument, op? I thought you wanted an intelligent discussion? Seems you actually don't. Prove me wrong, but obviously you can't back up your ignorance. You remind me of Lethn. Is this one of your alt accounts?


No there isn't, but they'll always publicly tell you about it so they've got an excuse to not reply to you or refute your claims (usually because they don't have the intelligence to do so and know they're wrong). Funny, the people who put me on ignore always do it straight after I've pointed out their bullshit. It's quite pathetic.

Mel Gibson tops the list in H'wood

Most rapper do too

Tim Hardaway.

The question though OP, why do you care? You sound gay since you so defiantly mention gay acts in a vulgar way.

Just curious but is there a way to tell if a user has you on ignore?  I've always wondered that.  Once I had people on ignore and didn't even remember why and figured it was a mistake but anyway I took them off.