Topic: Homophobic (or racist) celebrities. - page 2. (Read 2579 times)

Yet again this logic is just the mindset of an ignorant racist, but you're not one of them, right? And what are these negative perks? People you don't like based on their ethnicity or religion? This people should leave their 'culture' behind is laughable. Since when are people imposing their culture on you? Building mosques? I guess other peoples' culture just tends to offend ignorant xenophobes.

not here actually

we have a simmilar situation like Ukraine, they had a pro-Russian leader which no one liked and he promoted ex-communist Soviet Union while we have a pro-communist Zoran Milanovic wich promotes ex-Yugoslavia

he is the most hated politician in Croatia but still

the media is under his party, they usually don't have anything against communism but that will change during the next elections I guess
most of Croats hate Yugoslavia and communism as well but there are some like him like in Ukraine, it's time to do some lustration I think

Yeah, you're right, it's like shooting yourself in the foot. But it would be nice to have a star so big that he could allow himself to make those remarks. I think Clint Eastwood could pull it off, if he'd be that way. Or Scorsese. Roman Polanski is considered (or actually is) a pedophile on the run, and people still watch his movies.


I'm sorry that my analogy missed it's target
Amassing - I'm now what I'm talking about, because I've seen it from the other end also (from the immigrant view). Some district becomes occupied by people of a certain nation, and newcomer tend to flock there, and in short time whole block/district becomes this alien neighborhood, with all the negative perks.
I do not have anything against immigrants per se, as long as they leave their culture behind. I would not go to China and try to impose European ways onto my Chinese neighbors. I will do my best to learn a language as fast and good as possible, and Iwill respect their traditions, because I'm a guest. Not the other way around.

and communists
Like with Charlie Chaplin being accused as one. (And even if he were, so what?)

I agree, different from this I would never sell my ideals for a possibility to get hired

not about being racist xD
but if that's what they are it would be even worse if they became sell-outs

Exactly. I'm saying the way it IS. If a celebrity's beliefs are so strong that they don't mind the effect its going to have on their ability to get hired then by all means, they should express them. But make no mistake-it will effect their ability to get hired.

media logic
tolerance to everyone except for homophobes and racist people

Amassing themselves in what way? Like I said before you're just buying into propoganda. Muslims really aren't trying to amass themselves and take over or convert your country. Christians probably already did that. Is that ok to you? And I don't really get your bizare apartment smoking analogy.

You mean the kind of people like Mel Gibson? Any celebrity willing to "speak their mind" in terms of making homophobic/racist remarks is just an idiot. If you have those views, fine. But Hollywood isn't a very forgiving place for political incorrectness.

Let's have an intelligent discussion then, because you most certainly haven't made any intelligent points. How much tolerance should they have? Just a little bit? Just enough to not become a 'problem' or bother you? I think most minorities just want to be treated the same as everyone else, but you seem to have a problem with this. This is exactly how racists and bigots act and then (ironically) cry like they're being persecuted when somebody calls them out. Can you tell me how other countries are being 'islamificated' then? Building a few mosques doesn’t really cut it, but it does seem to if you're a bigot. Why don't you also tell me how you're not a racist/islamaphobe/homophobe and make a valid argument instead of just saying intolerant crap and baiting people into calling you a racist then throwing your toys out of the pram when they do. Your argument is like  saying it's ok to fuck 12-year-olds then crying when somebody calls you a paedophile and tells you it's not ok for a normal, decent person to act like this.

And your last line applies to you more than anyone else here.

They don't need to recruit me, or ruin my country. They are amassing themselves, with or without me, becoming a majority. And instead of ruining my country they are trying to convert it into their country (which will ruin it for me )

Imagine living in a apartment building where smoking is not allowed. Many neighbors have asthma, allergies, or simply would like their kids to avoid smoke. And then there's a new neighbor who is somehow allowed to smoke. And he does so regularily. Weed, thick cuban sigars, 24/7, all of his friends do, in front of the house, smokes comes from their windows etc. Then another apartment is taken by a similar guy. Then smoking is viewed in a good light in media, and society. Stylish movie star is looking at you with a cigarette in their mouth. And it's a human right to smoke or not, nothing you can do about it.

Movie stars and tobacco advertisement in hollywood is another thing (of the past hopefully).

the solution is to educate them

but they won't read, they don't like books

solution: make super awesome 3D movies about educational shizzle

Could you at least be bothered enough to read before starting arguing, and even insulting.
I wrote that my country is NOT being "islamificated".

I have a BASE AMOUNT of respect and TOLERANCE. Problem is - they require MORE and MORE each day.

And you are an another problem, problem that we cannot have intelligent discussions on this subject, because there's always someone who jumps in and screams

This becomes even more dull in modern social media, where every uneducated teenager is allowed to say his mind.

TLDR: Ignored

Op, don't believe the propoganda. Muslims and gays arent trying to recruit you or ruin your country.

"Why it's even wrong to be racist or homophobic?" Quite clearly you're a moron if you have to ask that. And you don't have to 'love' everyone, but a base amount of respect and tolerance is usually required from decent, intelligent people, but clearly you are not one of those. And igots and homophobes should be labled as 'bad guys'. Can you also tell me how your country is being 'Islamificated'?

Not many of them at least..

Homophobic perhaps but they probably keep it down as the media is always takes the gay and anti-racist side which would make them look bad in public and they know it, they won't just rush out without thinking trough their actions especially about such sensitive subjects..

You validate my point, too bad I'm not a celebrity.
I voice my opinion, and immediately get labeled as a bad guy.
Why it's even wrong to be racist or homophobic? Why should I be forced to "love" everyone.
I do not dislike people of other races or cultures, per se. But, for example, I would prefer to avoid Islamification of my country. If it works for them - I'm happy, but it does not work for me.

Anyway, can you help me find some "intolerant and ignorant" celebrity other than Gibson?

Wow, you sound pretty intolerant and ignorant. So you're essentially just racist and homophobic and don't like these people?

I think your on to something in regards to the film not getting proper advertisement time.  And you can expect some political group to boycott your film and they will get plenty of airtime.  It could work if people know how the system works well enough the could use the negative attention as a form of advertising to open minded intellectuals.

  I don't no anybody who has that kind of money and know how who is going to force the issue but I'd support them if they did best I could.

That's a bit different with politicians. Although I believe they are same hypocrites who cater to whichever group they can, even if they do not believe it themselves. Imagine a white Texas republican giving out racial hate speeches, and then going home to his mexican wife.
It's strange how you can defend "family values, christian way of life, etc etc" to get voters in real life, but you cannot do that in movie or art industry. That's why everyone in the media is a democrat nowadays.

On the multiculturalism issue:
 That it's ok to accept immigrants, and THEIR CULTURE. And it should BE FORCED to happen. Like a issuing an official ratio of white male percent ratio for government workplaces.
 I do not have a problem with this stuff, because in my country there's almost no immigrants, and such policies, and etc.
 But if we take, for example, Norway - it's a huge problem there. Due to HEAVY lobbying, or some other factors - country is flooding with immigrants, and they are strangely welcomed. There are tons of books about combining local cultures with these foreign ones. All sorts off initiatives. Movies coming out, where main heroine is wearing a hijab. Special classes in schools. Building of mosques. Children books and cartoons, having at least 2 black kids as characters.
 I think this will bite them in the ass in the long run, they will die out as a nation, and will be replaced as a culture.

Similar stuff with lgbt movements - heavy lobbiyng. Children media flooding with this shit, even at the ages where sexuality is not yet a factor. Books about crossdressing boy? For kids of age 7? Wtf?
I could go on and on, with my personal opinions, but this is derailing from this "hollywood media / pop culture topic theme"


But why it's such a monopoly? If you have a loads of cash, you can make whichever movie you want with any actor you want? Because no one will advertise it, if they dislike it?
I would love to see some anti-israel movie for example, not because I'm a jew hating s.o.b. , but just for a different perspective. Or a movie which frowns on gays. Although no one will go to see it in American theaters, because it's considered unacceptable. I's awkward how once harsh and manly USA became so changed so fast.

When it comes to politics it is another story, some are racist homophobic, islamophobic ... because they are targeting an audience that share these same believes and moeurs