Topic: How about we start banning scammers? (Read 1840 times)

Going into that metaphore: Before we send people to prison we need a proper court of justice, instead of the police state we have now.

Rent hackers on tracking scammers worked out once  

just ranting that we need to educate people is plain wrong. the forum should also be active on scam reports or create a wide trust escrow service....

Hello,

I've been dealing on bitcointalk for almost a year, spent hundreds of hours here and did deals for tens of thousands USD worth of amazon balance.

I see the same things over and over - new users don't check trust scan (even if it's clearly red lol), belive in fake vouches, don't use escrow or even know what that is.

Scammers are creating multiple threads, multi accounts for fake vouches (look at this guy) or self moderating them. Hundereds or thousands of dollars are getting stolen every day from good people who just want to earn some money and do a honest business.


I think it's all about lack of internet awarness, people are vulnerable for attacks and deceptions with thieves getting more and more creative.
It's not new users fault really, they are unexperienced and expect forums to be the safe place. Getting scammed multiple times when you want to do honest business and make it grow does not really get you go back to this place for more deals.
The marketplace has over 6 million posts, really worth it to make it safer.


It's pretty hard to change human behaviour and spread the awarness with so many new users. Sticking posts like this to every sub in marketplace could help a bit, although people are too often lazy or unaware what they have in front of their eyes.

Why won't we take care of scammers for good instead? Or at least the most notorious ones? Clearing the marketplace and banning all the scammers would make it much safer for the new users.

I suggest mods getting to work and users helping them - I noticed many good people fight for the truth to protect naive members. Definietly hiring more moderators to help or giving trusted users some new permissions, at least to lock scammers PM system untill forum staff take care of him for good.


I hope you think the same, it's finally time to do some clean up. It's been the problem for too long, good people can't lose money every day because we lack action to protect them and make them want to stay for more growth.

//thanks for moving this to the right sub

Some more active people should receive special "powers" like trust or something like that, or people with more trust should be more active in the scam sections, so the scammers will be tagged.

Going that direction, there's no reason in putting criminals in jail, they will always find a way to get back on breaking the law.

on my opinion, banning scammers is not the solution for this matter cause they will always find a way to go back to their job on scamming, like creating new accounts. I think the moderator or the person incharge should tighten the security of accounts for this matter.

This is a major issue. The trust rating's purpose is not delivered well. This should be brought up to the admins and implement this (we can't wait for the new forum to be done in an indefinite time to apply crucial changes).

Hello,

I've been dealing on bitcointalk for almost a year, spent hundreds of hours here and did deals for tens of thousands USD worth of amazon balance.

I see the same things over and over - new users don't check trust scan (even if it's clearly red lol), belive in fake vouches, don't use escrow or even know what that is.

Scammers are creating multiple threads, multi accounts for fake vouches (look at this guy) or self moderating them. Hundereds or thousands of dollars are getting stolen every day from good people who just want to earn some money and do a honest business.


I think it's all about lack of internet awarness, people are vulnerable for attacks and deceptions with thieves getting more and more creative.
It's not new users fault really, they are unexperienced and expect forums to be the safe place. Getting scammed multiple times when you want to do honest business and make it grow does not really get you go back to this place for more deals.
The marketplace has over 6 million posts, really worth it to make it safer.


It's pretty hard to change human behaviour and spread the awarness with so many new users. Sticking posts like this to every sub in marketplace could help a bit, although people are too often lazy or unaware what they have in front of their eyes.

Why won't we take care of scammers for good instead? Or at least the most notorious ones? Clearing the marketplace and banning all the scammers would make it much safer for the new users.

I suggest mods getting to work and users helping them - I noticed many good people fight for the truth to protect naive members. Definietly hiring more moderators to help or giving trusted users some new permissions, at least to lock scammers PM system untill forum staff take care of him for good.


I hope you think the same, it's finally time to do some clean up. It's been the problem for too long, good people can't lose money every day because we lack action to protect them and make them want to stay for more growth.

//thanks for moving this to the right sub

I think the solution is not to really ban scammers, but more of create an educational tour of the forum. By that I mean is to mandatory require all newly registered users to take a course to familiarize themselves with the features and some tips on not getting scammed here on the forum.

Banning scammers is useless, they can just create new accounts and the results will just be the same.

This seems like a trivial thing to do and isn't really prone to abuse. Moderators could verify the claims via their trust ratings. Those autobuy links tend to be very annoying, yes.

Another issue that got my attention yesterday was Beginners & Help. Someone offered people help to claim BTG and asked users to PM them. However, they have been sending users a link to some website that asks them to input their private key(s). Tl;dr to the issue: Trust ratings are not visible in that section.

This. I don't even get it why aren't these users who are 100% confirmed that they're scammers aren't banned. Their thread is still living though it's locked and trust hidden then using autobuy link.

I think we should disable "hide trust" exclusively in Marketplace, Auctions and others that I forgot to mention that involves trades.

IMHO, we should at least start banning confirmed serial scammers.

We can protect ourselves from forum scammers with 100% guarantee.

That first a person was scammed he reports to moderator and the scammer gets negative trust.