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sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
I'm somewhat a prepper too, though I don't have much BTC. I don't think BTC would survive long against a major catastrophe.
I'd rather own valuables and bank accounts in several different countries. If something bad happens where I'm currently staying, I can just move elsewhere and keep on living the way I'm used to.

This is true. Things like electricity and internet access will likely become more scarce in the event of most doomsday scenarios which will push up the cost of both. The higher cost of electricity (and to some extent internet) will make mining less profitable, in addition to the fact that the lack of internet access would make bitcoin very difficult to spend (which is what ultimately gives it it's value)
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1074
Looking at the financial growth of some countries, it will be a economic shift in power.

WAR has no value, if everything is burned to the ground and we have seen, what depression after WWI and WWII has done to many countries.

It might even be a WAR between countries for WATER. Without water, nobody can live, water in my opinion is the most important resource in the world, and people pollute it like, we have a unlimited supply.

When you look at this, Bitcoin would be your last worry....... Wink
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
There wont be a doomsday, but there will be massive riots and certaily some civil unrest (vigilant mobs, vandalization, street riots,etc)

Yet  i dont think the the BRICS will be affected as much as the Western World, communist China even now hosts the majority of the Bitcoin servers and mining stuff.

So if the $$$ AND €€€€ collapses i think the BRICS will take over, and the BTC wont suffer that much, instead it will rise to 1-100 million dollar / BTC as the american billionares will try to save their wealth, because the government will put sever capital controls, bans gold transfers ,etc.

So i think that China, Brazil and the other BRICS members (Russia i`m not sure as it relies too much on oil), will survive.

Also Norway,Australia ,NZ, and the mini states (Hong King,Singapore,Macao,etc) have also a high probability of not being affected economically.

But definitely the EU and the US including Canada will be decimated, the US debt bubble is just too big and the western world cant handle it any longer.

That's a pretty good summary of the future but the least of our worries will be civil unrest. The only problem with that theory is the predictable behavior of New Rome (North America). The Romans only know one way to bring their economy back from the brink of distruction and that's by gearing up the war machine to full production. That can only leave a wake of distruction worldwide. Even if the individual battles remain conventional it will massively effect worldwide electronic transfers because any good battle plan includes crippling communication channels.

So what BRICS+Iran+North Krorea  vs NATO + South Korea + Japan +Commonwealth

I dont think so, there may be tensions building up between Russia and USA, but i dont think there will be any war, its mostly rhetoric, and hopefully the US citizens now know that the war is not a solution.

Also if they get into this was, then the US soil wont remain intact, because in all previous wars, they never get hurt while other countries were destroyed to dust, in this war they wont.
So where will the banksters hide if not in the US, so they cant afford to get into a war with Russia because they both have ICBM's and stuff like that.

Nah, that's too conspiracy theory, they may be reckless and powerhungry but they are not that idiotic to get into a full globar war, especially now that we have atomic bombs, its just too risky.

A global war isn't really necessary to support the economy with increased production. Multiple smaller theaters with confined conventional weapons will work well enough to dig the superpowers out of the hole they've buried themselves in. The U.S., the USSR and China have already fought proxy wars using pawn countries. Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Cambodia, Ethiopia, El Salvador, Cuba and several middle eastern conflicts were supplied by the superpowers. China dumped masses of armament and technical advisors into Vietnam during that war. I think mutually assured destruction works and don't believe any future war will become nuclear. That's not to say that a lot of the worlds infrastructure can't be destroyed along the way. Bitcoin will suffer in parts of the world when that happens.

Unfortunately, the U.S. citizens are not really in control of their military structure. The U.S. propaganda machine works pretty well and can fend off the citizenry until well after the damage is done. I've been watching my country shit on other nations for more than 50 years and I don't expect it stop anytime soon. As bad as the economy is currently I don't really see how we can avoid a war. We need war, the economy needs war. The powers that be think they can kickstart the economy by using oil reserves to dump the cost of a barrel of oil. That simply won't be enough.

Well the only "justified" place to make a proxy war now is Syria, maybe they come up with some excuse.

The problem with that is that Putin clearly said that it will not tolerate any more American "interventions" in the middle east, the drone strikes are probably justified because it doesnt violate any war protocols, but ground troop invasion are probably off limits.

Other than that i dont think they can come up with another excuse to invade some other country, because the world will know what they are doing.

Especially since they dont want to give back Germany's gold, Europe has a really bitter looking face towards USA.

I feel sorry that your government is so warmonger, but i just dont see what excuse it can come up with to go into war with another country other than Syria.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1393
You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
There wont be a doomsday, but there will be massive riots and certaily some civil unrest (vigilant mobs, vandalization, street riots,etc)

Yet  i dont think the the BRICS will be affected as much as the Western World, communist China even now hosts the majority of the Bitcoin servers and mining stuff.

So if the $$$ AND €€€€ collapses i think the BRICS will take over, and the BTC wont suffer that much, instead it will rise to 1-100 million dollar / BTC as the american billionares will try to save their wealth, because the government will put sever capital controls, bans gold transfers ,etc.

So i think that China, Brazil and the other BRICS members (Russia i`m not sure as it relies too much on oil), will survive.

Also Norway,Australia ,NZ, and the mini states (Hong King,Singapore,Macao,etc) have also a high probability of not being affected economically.

But definitely the EU and the US including Canada will be decimated, the US debt bubble is just too big and the western world cant handle it any longer.

That's a pretty good summary of the future but the least of our worries will be civil unrest. The only problem with that theory is the predictable behavior of New Rome (North America). The Romans only know one way to bring their economy back from the brink of distruction and that's by gearing up the war machine to full production. That can only leave a wake of distruction worldwide. Even if the individual battles remain conventional it will massively effect worldwide electronic transfers because any good battle plan includes crippling communication channels.

So what BRICS+Iran+North Krorea  vs NATO + South Korea + Japan +Commonwealth

I dont think so, there may be tensions building up between Russia and USA, but i dont think there will be any war, its mostly rhetoric, and hopefully the US citizens now know that the war is not a solution.

Also if they get into this was, then the US soil wont remain intact, because in all previous wars, they never get hurt while other countries were destroyed to dust, in this war they wont.
So where will the banksters hide if not in the US, so they cant afford to get into a war with Russia because they both have ICBM's and stuff like that.

Nah, that's too conspiracy theory, they may be reckless and powerhungry but they are not that idiotic to get into a full globar war, especially now that we have atomic bombs, its just too risky.

A global war isn't really necessary to support the economy with increased production. Multiple smaller theaters with confined conventional weapons will work well enough to dig the superpowers out of the hole they've buried themselves in. The U.S., the USSR and China have already fought proxy wars using pawn countries. Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Cambodia, Ethiopia, El Salvador, Cuba and several middle eastern conflicts were supplied by the superpowers. China dumped masses of armament and technical advisors into Vietnam during that war. I think mutually assured destruction works and don't believe any future war will become nuclear. That's not to say that a lot of the worlds infrastructure can't be destroyed along the way. Bitcoin will suffer in parts of the world when that happens.

Unfortunately, the U.S. citizens are not really in control of their military structure. The U.S. propaganda machine works pretty well and can fend off the citizenry until well after the damage is done. I've been watching my country shit on other nations for more than 50 years and I don't expect it stop anytime soon. As bad as the economy is currently I don't really see how we can avoid a war. We need war, the economy needs war. The powers that be think they can kickstart the economy by using oil reserves to dump the cost of a barrel of oil. That simply won't be enough.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
There wont be a doomsday, but there will be massive riots and certaily some civil unrest (vigilant mobs, vandalization, street riots,etc)

Yet  i dont think the the BRICS will be affected as much as the Western World, communist China even now hosts the majority of the Bitcoin servers and mining stuff.

So if the $$$ AND €€€€ collapses i think the BRICS will take over, and the BTC wont suffer that much, instead it will rise to 1-100 million dollar / BTC as the american billionares will try to save their wealth, because the government will put sever capital controls, bans gold transfers ,etc.

So i think that China, Brazil and the other BRICS members (Russia i`m not sure as it relies too much on oil), will survive.

Also Norway,Australia ,NZ, and the mini states (Hong King,Singapore,Macao,etc) have also a high probability of not being affected economically.

But definitely the EU and the US including Canada will be decimated, the US debt bubble is just too big and the western world cant handle it any longer.

That's a pretty good summary of the future but the least of our worries will be civil unrest. The only problem with that theory is the predictable behavior of New Rome (North America). The Romans only know one way to bring their economy back from the brink of distruction and that's by gearing up the war machine to full production. That can only leave a wake of distruction worldwide. Even if the individual battles remain conventional it will massively effect worldwide electronic transfers because any good battle plan includes crippling communication channels.

So what BRICS+Iran+North Krorea  vs NATO + South Korea + Japan +Commonwealth

I dont think so, there may be tensions building up between Russia and USA, but i dont think there will be any war, its mostly rhetoric, and hopefully the US citizens now know that the war is not a solution.

Also if they get into this was, then the US soil wont remain intact, because in all previous wars, they never get hurt while other countries were destroyed to dust, in this war they wont.
So where will the banksters hide if not in the US, so they cant afford to get into a war with Russia because they both have ICBM's and stuff like that.

Nah, that's too conspiracy theory, they may be reckless and powerhungry but they are not that idiotic to get into a full globar war, especially now that we have atomic bombs, its just too risky.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1393
You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
There wont be a doomsday, but there will be massive riots and certaily some civil unrest (vigilant mobs, vandalization, street riots,etc)

Yet  i dont think the the BRICS will be affected as much as the Western World, communist China even now hosts the majority of the Bitcoin servers and mining stuff.

So if the $$$ AND €€€€ collapses i think the BRICS will take over, and the BTC wont suffer that much, instead it will rise to 1-100 million dollar / BTC as the american billionares will try to save their wealth, because the government will put sever capital controls, bans gold transfers ,etc.

So i think that China, Brazil and the other BRICS members (Russia i`m not sure as it relies too much on oil), will survive.

Also Norway,Australia ,NZ, and the mini states (Hong King,Singapore,Macao,etc) have also a high probability of not being affected economically.

But definitely the EU and the US including Canada will be decimated, the US debt bubble is just too big and the western world cant handle it any longer.

That's a pretty good summary of the future but the least of our worries will be civil unrest. The only problem with that theory is the predictable behavior of New Rome (North America). The Romans only know one way to bring their economy back from the brink of distruction and that's by gearing up the war machine to full production. That can only leave a wake of distruction worldwide. Even if the individual battles remain conventional it will massively effect worldwide electronic transfers because any good battle plan includes crippling communication channels.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
There wont be a doomsday, but there will be massive riots and certaily some civil unrest (vigilant mobs, vandalization, street riots,etc)

Yet  i dont think the the BRICS will be affected as much as the Western World, communist China even now hosts the majority of the Bitcoin servers and mining stuff.

So if the $$$ AND €€€€ collapses i think the BRICS will take over, and the BTC wont suffer that much, instead it will rise to 1-100 million dollar / BTC as the american billionares will try to save their wealth, because the government will put sever capital controls, bans gold transfers ,etc.

So i think that China, Brazil and the other BRICS members (Russia i`m not sure as it relies too much on oil), will survive.

Also Norway,Australia ,NZ, and the mini states (Hong King,Singapore,Macao,etc) have also a high probability of not being affected economically.

But definitely the EU and the US including Canada will be decimated, the US debt bubble is just too big and the western world cant handle it any longer.
member
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I'm somewhat a prepper too, though I don't have much BTC. I don't think BTC would survive long against a major catastrophe.
I'd rather own valuables and bank accounts in several different countries. If something bad happens where I'm currently staying, I can just move elsewhere and keep on living the way I'm used to.

You want to know the easiest way to have a bank account in several different countries?

BTC <--

I know that very well, but convenience and acceptance is an issue. Right now in Europe, I can wire unlimited money (only limited by my balance) for free. If I want to buy a car, I just ask the seller what's his bank account, and he'll get my money the following day. BTC is even faster, but would my seller accept BTC? Actually, I'd like to do more business with BTC, but few people accept it.


That is sadly true. It's actually almost free to transfer money within the EU within the banking system, so prices and availability isn't the issue here.
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1047
Your country may be your worst enemy
I'm somewhat a prepper too, though I don't have much BTC. I don't think BTC would survive long against a major catastrophe.
I'd rather own valuables and bank accounts in several different countries. If something bad happens where I'm currently staying, I can just move elsewhere and keep on living the way I'm used to.

You want to know the easiest way to have a bank account in several different countries?

BTC <--

I know that very well, but convenience and acceptance is an issue. Right now in Europe, I can wire unlimited money (only limited by my balance) for free. If I want to buy a car, I just ask the seller what's his bank account, and he'll get my money the following day. BTC is even faster, but would my seller accept BTC? Actually, I'd like to do more business with BTC, but few people accept it.
hero member
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Merit: 500
Hodl!
Also, property taxes are freaking insane in Buffalo, and pretty much anywhere NY state.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1393
You lead and I'll watch you walk away.

Basically anywhere in Canada that isn't near a big city (most of the country) is real cheap. You can get a entire golf course with buildings in norther Saskatchewan for around 200 K. Only problem is... Northern Saskatchewan... Just like you can buy a house in Buffalo for 10K, except... Buffalo 😷

LOL Buffalo. Every home sold includes one year of free service.

legendary
Activity: 1456
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Ad maiora!

Basically anywhere in Canada that isn't near a big city (most of the country) is real cheap. You can get a entire golf course with buildings in norther Saskatchewan for around 200 K. Only problem is... Northern Saskatchewan... Just like you can buy a house in Buffalo for 10K, except... Buffalo 😷
legendary
Activity: 3598
Merit: 2386
Viva Ut Vivas
I'm somewhat a prepper too, though I don't have much BTC. I don't think BTC would survive long against a major catastrophe.
I'd rather own valuables and bank accounts in several different countries. If something bad happens where I'm currently staying, I can just move elsewhere and keep on living the way I'm used to.

You want to know the easiest way to have a bank account in several different countries?

BTC <--
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1047
Your country may be your worst enemy
I'm somewhat a prepper too, though I don't have much BTC. I don't think BTC would survive long against a major catastrophe.
I'd rather own valuables and bank accounts in several different countries. If something bad happens where I'm currently staying, I can just move elsewhere and keep on living the way I'm used to.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1000
Well, I live in a country, where things {politics} are very volatile and I will have to have a backup plan, to move to another country, with only the shirt on my back, if the shit hits the fan.

What Bitcoin allows me to do, is to have access to "startup" money, when I have to move in a hurry.

In most cases, when countries go to war, the banks close, and the government can even order banks to froze accounts. In this type of scenario you do not have access to your own money.
I only need to have access to a piece of paper with the private key.... or the key encrypted in online storage or within online text on online blogs or emails etc etc.. {We all have our own ways of hiding things on the internet}

Worst case, you only have to remember the pass phrase ..... in your head.

So you do not need a Doomsday scenario, just a country, where you might not be welcomed or be at war, and you have to flee with your family.  Angry

 
That right there is reason BTC is utterly amazing.  F U harper, suck my nuts you cannot have my wealth.
member
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Well, I live in a country, where things {politics} are very volatile and I will have to have a backup plan, to move to another country, with only the shirt on my back, if the shit hits the fan.

What Bitcoin allows me to do, is to have access to "startup" money, when I have to move in a hurry.

In most cases, when countries go to war, the banks close, and the government can even order banks to froze accounts. In this type of scenario you do not have access to your own money.
 

I think this is one very good reason for bitcoin. Many people think it will never happen but it can always happen. It's not unrealistic that we could  have a global war or economical collapse in the near future.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1074
Well, I live in a country, where things {politics} are very volatile and I will have to have a backup plan, to move to another country, with only the shirt on my back, if the shit hits the fan.

What Bitcoin allows me to do, is to have access to "startup" money, when I have to move in a hurry.

In most cases, when countries go to war, the banks close, and the government can even order banks to froze accounts. In this type of scenario you do not have access to your own money.

I only need to have access to a piece of paper with the private key.... or the key encrypted in online storage or within online text on online blogs or emails etc etc.. {We all have our own ways of hiding things on the internet}

Worst case, you only have to remember the pass phrase ..... in your head.

So you do not need a Doomsday scenario, just a country, where you might not be welcomed or be at war, and you have to flee with your family.  Angry

 
member
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no internet, no bitcoin

in doomsday internet and network are one of the first things that go down

Don't be silly. Society is going to completely break down except for the Internet and cellular phone service. rofl

Probably won't effect satellite internet which would likely see a boom, but electricity could be a bigger problem.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1393
You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
no internet, no bitcoin

in doomsday internet and network are one of the first things that go down

Don't be silly. Society is going to completely break down except for the Internet and cellular phone service. rofl
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 1000
no internet, no bitcoin

in doomsday internet and network are one of the first things that go down
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