how can BFL still be advertising on the forum - page 2.

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Quote from: SgtSpike on April 04, 2013, 10:35:30 AM

Quote from: antimattercrusader on April 04, 2013, 10:07:49 AM

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Quote from: spacegoat on April 03, 2013, 10:10:11 PM

this is why the bitcoin community sort of sucks its full of scammers with no checks on their manipulations of people... nobody is held responsible. if people actually knew those BFL guys like luke they'd probably hassle em for real answers, and they may even get a solid ass whooping if they refused to pose any evidence.

that is the dark side of complete anonymity...

Huh?

People know the BFL guys. Their address is public, and Josh said that anyone is welcome to visit them, just so long as they set up an appointment beforehand. BFL is far from an anonymous company. They have given real answers as to the delays. I don't know what else a person could expect from them, other than more reasonable estimates of time in the future.

That is good to know. It's only 15 hours from here, I will seriously drive over there and document the trip with photos on this forum this month.

Sweet! It wouldn't hurt to get some more pictures and another user account of visiting. So far, Kano & Luke Jr have been the only ones to visit (that I know of).

Hell, I live 15 minutes from their office. Will do daily checkups for hire Cheesy

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I find it a little humerous that the ads still claim a 60gh/sec single is $1299 when it's actually only 50gh and near double the price.

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Quote from: ar9 on April 04, 2013, 02:31:09 PM

I'm relatively new to the BitCoin realm and within about 1.5 hours of researching, it became quite apparent to me that BFL is operating fraudulently.

Personally, I'm less surprised at the fact that they're a sham, and much, much more surprised that people still believe they are real. I must say, the founder of BFL and his/her constituents function as the absolute epitome of successful opportunists.

They saw a massive demand for a product, substantiated in a high-risk/high-reward marketplace, isolated the characteristics of their marketshare (risk-takers) and took the plunge. I would argue (assuming I am right in ascertaining their scam) that this was one of the most successful scams in history, not because of the amount of money they will receive, but because of the ramifications and their ability to conduct this scam under a veil of anonymity that is the very core value of Bitcoin.

Quite intriguing, to say the very least. I hope for the sake of Bitcoin and those who invested, it is not a scam.

So, you say that it is "quite apparent to me that BFL is operating fraudulently", and state that "they're a sham" as fact, even going so far as to say "this was one of the most successful scams in history", and yet you end with "I hope ... it is not a scam".

Why state they are a scam as fact when you yourself don't even fully believe it? Instead of saying "they're a sham," say "I believe they're a sham." Stating facts that are not necessarily true is a great way to expose yourself to libel/slander lawsuits.

Anyway, are you certain enough that they are a scam that you are willing to put money on it? Because I am certain enough that they are not a scam to put money on it.

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I'm relatively new to the BitCoin realm and within about 1.5 hours of researching, it became quite apparent to me that BFL is operating fraudulently.

Personally, I'm less surprised at the fact that they're a sham, and much, much more surprised that people still believe they are real. I must say, the founder of BFL and his/her constituents function as the absolute epitome of successful opportunists.

They saw a massive demand for a product, substantiated in a high-risk/high-reward marketplace, isolated the characteristics of their marketshare (risk-takers) and took the plunge. I would argue (assuming I am right in ascertaining their scam) that this was one of the most successful scams in history, not because of the amount of money they will receive, but because of the ramifications and their ability to conduct this scam under a veil of anonymity that is the very core value of Bitcoin.

Quite intriguing, to say the very least. I hope for the sake of Bitcoin and those who invested, it is not a scam.

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Quote from: SgtSpike on April 04, 2013, 10:35:30 AM

Quote from: antimattercrusader on April 04, 2013, 10:07:49 AM

Quote from: SgtSpike on April 03, 2013, 11:17:51 PM

Quote from: spacegoat on April 03, 2013, 10:10:11 PM

this is why the bitcoin community sort of sucks its full of scammers with no checks on their manipulations of people... nobody is held responsible. if people actually knew those BFL guys like luke they'd probably hassle em for real answers, and they may even get a solid ass whooping if they refused to pose any evidence.

that is the dark side of complete anonymity...

Huh?

People know the BFL guys. Their address is public, and Josh said that anyone is welcome to visit them, just so long as they set up an appointment beforehand. BFL is far from an anonymous company. They have given real answers as to the delays. I don't know what else a person could expect from them, other than more reasonable estimates of time in the future.

That is good to know. It's only 15 hours from here, I will seriously drive over there and document the trip with photos on this forum this month.

Sweet! It wouldn't hurt to get some more pictures and another user account of visiting. So far, Kano & Luke Jr have been the only ones to visit (that I know of).

And Kano posted pictures on his website kano-kun.net
BFL did say anyone could visit so I believe if you talk to them they will let you tour. It would be cool to see newer pictures.

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Quote from: antimattercrusader on April 04, 2013, 10:07:49 AM

Quote from: SgtSpike on April 03, 2013, 11:17:51 PM

Quote from: spacegoat on April 03, 2013, 10:10:11 PM

this is why the bitcoin community sort of sucks its full of scammers with no checks on their manipulations of people... nobody is held responsible. if people actually knew those BFL guys like luke they'd probably hassle em for real answers, and they may even get a solid ass whooping if they refused to pose any evidence.

that is the dark side of complete anonymity...

Huh?

People know the BFL guys. Their address is public, and Josh said that anyone is welcome to visit them, just so long as they set up an appointment beforehand. BFL is far from an anonymous company. They have given real answers as to the delays. I don't know what else a person could expect from them, other than more reasonable estimates of time in the future.

That is good to know. It's only 15 hours from here, I will seriously drive over there and document the trip with photos on this forum this month.

Sweet! It wouldn't hurt to get some more pictures and another user account of visiting. So far, Kano & Luke Jr have been the only ones to visit (that I know of).

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Quote from: SgtSpike on April 03, 2013, 11:17:51 PM

Quote from: spacegoat on April 03, 2013, 10:10:11 PM

this is why the bitcoin community sort of sucks its full of scammers with no checks on their manipulations of people... nobody is held responsible. if people actually knew those BFL guys like luke they'd probably hassle em for real answers, and they may even get a solid ass whooping if they refused to pose any evidence.

that is the dark side of complete anonymity...

Huh?

People know the BFL guys. Their address is public, and Josh said that anyone is welcome to visit them, just so long as they set up an appointment beforehand. BFL is far from an anonymous company. They have given real answers as to the delays. I don't know what else a person could expect from them, other than more reasonable estimates of time in the future.

That is good to know. It's only 15 hours from here, I will seriously drive over there and document the trip with photos on this forum this month.

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Quote from: spacegoat on April 03, 2013, 10:10:11 PM

this is why the bitcoin community sort of sucks its full of scammers with no checks on their manipulations of people... nobody is held responsible. if people actually knew those BFL guys like luke they'd probably hassle em for real answers, and they may even get a solid ass whooping if they refused to pose any evidence.

that is the dark side of complete anonymity...

They aren't anonymous, people are just all talk or want someone else to take care of the big bad guys for them.

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100 million dollars? Huh

If this is true it has to be the dumbest company with 100 million dollars funding I have ever known.

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Quote from: SgtSpike on April 03, 2013, 11:17:51 PM

I don't know what else a person could expect from them, other than more reasonable estimates of time in the future.

Many people have zero trust in BFL. This company has a history of not delivering on their promises. It's time for them to deliver a product. Nobody except maybe you has any patience left for these clowns.

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Quote from: spacegoat on April 03, 2013, 10:10:11 PM

this is why the bitcoin community sort of sucks its full of scammers with no checks on their manipulations of people... nobody is held responsible. if people actually knew those BFL guys like luke they'd probably hassle em for real answers, and they may even get a solid ass whooping if they refused to pose any evidence.

that is the dark side of complete anonymity...

Huh?

People know the BFL guys. Their address is public, and Josh said that anyone is welcome to visit them, just so long as they set up an appointment beforehand. BFL is far from an anonymous company. They have given real answers as to the delays. I don't know what else a person could expect from them, other than more reasonable estimates of time in the future.

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this is why the bitcoin community sort of sucks its full of scammers with no checks on their manipulations of people... nobody is held responsible. if people actually knew those BFL guys like luke they'd probably hassle em for real answers, and they may even get a solid ass whooping if they refused to pose any evidence.

that is the dark side of complete anonymity...

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Buzz App - Spin wheel, farm rewards

Ya the ever-present ad on the top-google search for 'bitcoin calculator' alone must sell BFL a bunch of hastily made preorders, I'd imagine:

http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/

The claim (that has been there for at least a month) on the pre-order page that "Products are shipped according to placement in the order queue, and delivery may take 2 months or more after order. " is pretty irresponsible. It would be more honest if they wrote or more in bold, giant caps

ACtually just looking over the bitcoinx site some more. It totally just appears to be an advertising vehicle for BFL. Does anyone know if I'm correct in this assumption?

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Quote from: Luke-Jr on April 01, 2013, 02:09:38 AM

Ironically, you posted this right after I received my BitForce SC

Oh, so you received it then?

That's funny, over on the 'BFL shipped' thread you said you only touched it when you flew to Kansas, but left it with them.

...And this happened right after you posted pictures of it in the Kansas lab, letting us believe you took them there in Oz!

Your credibility is completely, irreversibly destroyed, Luke.

I just wonder how many pieces of bitcoin it took for you to sell out the community.

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Right what I wanted to say!!!

Imagine people that preordered mini rigs for 30k when bitcoin was at 2$. That 30k would be 1590000 $ now!!!! Shocked

Will they ever make that money now???

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I'm just glad I asked for a refund back when the price was at $20 and put my entire refund into BTC

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Quote from: Luke-Jr on April 01, 2013, 02:09:38 AM

Ironically, you posted this right after I received my BitForce SC

aren't you the dude that works for BFL. your opinion DEFINITELY counts here then. thank you so much for clarifying. 1 count them 1 has been completed and shipped to me, TRUST ME

I'm A BFL EMPLOYEE

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Quote from: Luke-Jr on April 01, 2013, 02:09:38 AM

Ironically, you posted this right after I received my BitForce SC

Hear that OP...... That is the sound of SUCK IT...

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Quote from: Luke-Jr on April 01, 2013, 02:09:38 AM

Ironically, you posted this right after I received my BitForce SC

I don't like it when people say this but I believe in this instance it is a necessary evil:

Pictures or it didn't happen!

Edit: Damn it! Just realised what day it is and at what time you posted. Touche!

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Quote from: Luke-Jr on April 01, 2013, 02:09:38 AM

Ironically, you posted this right after I received my BitForce SC

People don't believe you have one in your possession.

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