How can the corona virus end Faster and economy reopen

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Quote from: Janation on June 10, 2020, 04:17:08 AM

It is hard to contain a virus if people are having doubts and making mistakes.

Not only that, but they're also are a lot of people that unexpectedly got the virus, from the frontliners that are exposed to the virus to the people that got the virus from getting out and there are also the asymptomatic cases. If people are actually taking care of themselves, they would be following the protocols but most of them are not following that. If they wanted the virus to be contained, they shouldn't lie to health workers and they should follow quarantine protocols and not spread fake news since that also makes other people heat up.

That is the worst thing about this virus and showed me why we need a bit more Darwinish approach to life. There were soo many people who are uneducated or just plain idiots who didn't even believe that there is a virus going on, they literally got out without a mask whenever they can and not only they risked their own lives which is totally fine because people who are idiots like that could very well die and the average IQ of the world would gone up, but they also risked other people's lives as well. It all started when people started to question vaccination, something that allows you to stay alive, to be useless.

At the end of the day we are talking about people who are so so stupid that they would rather "question" by their own beliefs and their friends instead of all the scientists, at that point you just agree with them and let them go out and die.

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It is hard to contain a virus if people are having doubts and making mistakes.

Not only that, but they're also are a lot of people that unexpectedly got the virus, from the frontliners that are exposed to the virus to the people that got the virus from getting out and there are also the asymptomatic cases. If people are actually taking care of themselves, they would be following the protocols but most of them are not following that. If they wanted the virus to be contained, they shouldn't lie to health workers and they should follow quarantine protocols and not spread fake news since that also makes other people heat up.

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It will end when the media hype ends. Waiting for a useless vaccination is just a justification to continue the recession. Check that statistics, https://ibb.co/CbXFfCB Nothing is threatened by the virus, but everything from the instilled fear from it.

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Quote from: arallmuus on June 09, 2020, 05:20:46 PM

Ever Heard of the herd immunity? here is the link about herd Immunity. There is no vaccine for covid19 right now so the goverment could be secretly trying to achieve this herd immunity by hoping that people that have been infected will create some sort of auto immune in their body

They cant really sacrifce the entire country's economy because of lockdown therefore most country has open up and let people work and do stuff as normally as ever ( Secretly hoping that herd immunity would be achieved naturally before a vaccine is created )

Herd immunity was proposed in the UK as the first response and the authorities later retracted their view, after probably witnessing the enormous load on healthcare system in Italy. This response from authorities will vary from country to country. For sparsely populated, developed countries with concentrated centers of population, the cluster approach will work and they will not have to play with citizen's lives in the hopes of herd immunity.

In poorer countries with huge population like India or Nigeria, people themselves seem to have accepted the fate that it will spread, no matter what. If you live, you live. If you or someone you know doesn't survive, well, mehhh. The govt will be happier with the herd immunity outcome. The problem is that coronaviruses are not like say, measles, smallpox or polio where immunity if for a lifetime. The most worrying phenomena is that it may only be seasonal immunity. That is why we can never give up on the approach of finding and isolating cases. This fucking virus needs to be starved of human bodies.

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Vaccine or some kind of medicine that will prevent a person from having coronavirus for a short period of time is the only answer I think. The economy can still reopen but safety precautions should be implemented to prevent the spread of the virus.

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Coronavirus can come down only when people decide to abide by the set standard precautions put forward by the World Health Organization. Since the treatment and vaccine has not yet been discovered, only the precautionary measures are the safest ways to stay uninfected by the virus.

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Quote from: Negotiation on June 08, 2020, 10:28:10 PM

Yes, the government needs to take strict action to cure the coronavirus quickly Because so far no vaccine has been developed for this disease the situation will get worse day by day if everyone does not take precautions. Therefore in order to revive the country's economy it is necessary to abide by all the rules and regulations for the cure of the virus and to maintain social distance You can't go out without the need In that case, we can resist it very soon and the economy will be back to normal.

While vaccine is not yet available, yes, the government should be strict in implementing all the proper precautions that are necessary
to avoid the spreading of the virus.
This virus is still at large and there's a very huge possibility that people who are going outside are prone of getting infected as symptoms aren't
clear to those who have strong immune system.
There are people who are already infected but still not showing any signs or the asymptomatic, they can easily transmit the virus while
exposing themselves in their neighborhood, or worse, in their very own home.

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Quote from: coinfinger on June 09, 2020, 03:43:10 PM

That is literally what governments are trying to achieve unfortunately, one more dead means one less covid case, that is how they see it Sad

Ever Heard of the herd immunity? here is the link about herd Immunity. There is no vaccine for covid19 right now so the goverment could be secretly trying to achieve this herd immunity by hoping that people that have been infected will create some sort of auto immune in their body

They cant really sacrifce the entire country's economy because of lockdown therefore most country has open up and let people work and do stuff as normally as ever ( Secretly hoping that herd immunity would be achieved naturally before a vaccine is created )

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Quote from: Jorge158 on June 08, 2020, 09:32:31 PM

Corona virus once there is treatment or a vaccine for it. If not, then countries have to put strict regulations forward in order to ensure that the precautionary measures set by WHO be adhered to. With this, the daily recorded cases will subside. Companies and travel can then resume to boost the economy.

Yes, The quickest way I can think of right now would be to just get as many precautions as you can and just let people do whatever you want. Will this cause a lot of people to die? Sure it will, and most of them will be upsetting because it will be people who have no other choice but to go outside. I heard some noble prize winner cum economic analyst said that if the total world stops working for 14 days that will script the end of covid19 more easily.

However when you allow people to get sick or die, you are also dropping the amount of people who could get it as well. That is literally what governments are trying to achieve unfortunately, one more dead means one less covid case, that is how they see it Sad

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Quote from: akjuve on April 25, 2020, 04:49:23 PM

So far, the corona virus have been a nightmare to the world and this needs more advanced tech to get stopped.
The corona virus is said to be in the air and has some limit of time to spend in the air.
But the virus keep spreading even if it cant spend long in air or anywhere.
After all the lockdowns in every country, the virus still keep spreading.

So, according to my opinion, I think there is a group of people behind this virus and the only faster way to stop it is by getting the people behind the spread.
As ive seen so far, I know there will be a technology for this and probably, blockchain tech might help also.
Corona virus pandemic is acting like it's gonna be around for long and this will affect a lot the world economy because this is like a kind of war.

Also do you have any idea from there?

The thing you said is likely to be true.
There is much research about the Coronavirus and some have proved that Coronavirus is actually man-made or at least it's not from nature. Despite that, I still think finding the origin of the Coronavirus is difficult if not impossible. I think the Coronavirus creator has thought about the effect of the virus and have some back-up plans as well as some ways to prevent him/ her self from being tracked down.
So yeah, people will have to and should depend on medication and science to solve this Coronavirus problem.

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there is no other word that drugs and vaccines must be found so that this corona epidemic does not continue to spread and develop.
because all this time what has been done is to prevent the sick from spreading to the healthy, but not killing the pandemic. even though we strictly carry out "physical distancing" there will still continue to be a further pandemic because humans can be careless.

I have seen in my country there are doctors who have done research that with blood plasma from a former covid sufferer can be used as an immunization, and has been tried and succeeded in critical and severe patients. according to him it was an alternative before drugs and vaccines were discovered and could be given to those who were vulnerable to the covid pandemic namely medical workers and the elderly as well as people with annual diseases.

and according to doctors that many countries have carried out plasma transfusions and it is assumed that many have succeeded, this possibility will be used until drugs and vaccines are discovered.

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Here is the original blog post by Bill Gates. Its amazing how the man has quite a deep and clear understanding of communicable diseases, vaccines, testing etc. He mentions about the opening up of Microsoft China that the chinese are still being conservative about opening up and are encouraging people to work from home. They are following this even though the peak has passed for them for a long time now.

I feel worried here back home in India because we have all but opened up. There is no official communication to stay inside and the govt is relying on the self-awareness among the population to maintain distance and wear masks etc. The infections are still climbing in major clusters like the hugely populated and congested metro cities Delhi and Mumbai. The smaller towns are also starting to see an increase in cases. The demographic is such that people cannot afford to remain indoors. It remains to be seen how this affects the infection numbers or the fatalities.

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Yes, the government needs to take strict action to cure the coronavirus quickly Because so far no vaccine has been developed for this disease the situation will get worse day by day if everyone does not take precautions. Therefore in order to revive the country's economy it is necessary to abide by all the rules and regulations for the cure of the virus and to maintain social distance You can't go out without the need In that case, we can resist it very soon and the economy will be back to normal.

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Corona virus once there is treatment or a vaccine for it. If not, then countries have to put strict regulations forward in order to ensure that the precautionary measures set by WHO be adhered to. With this, the daily recorded cases will subside. Companies and travel can then resume to boost the economy.

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Quote from: akjuve on April 25, 2020, 04:49:23 PM

So, according to my opinion, I think there is a group of people behind this virus and the only faster way to stop it is by getting the people behind the spread.

What do you mean by "people behind the spread"? Do you mean the creators of this virus?
I think it is hard to get the people who create the virus, even we don't know from what country this virus comes from. China refused to claim they made the virus, they blamed USA. How we know those people in this condition, no certainty at all.

I think the best ways to deal with the virus are:
- Change our habits to be healthier and discipline.
- Get the cure or vaccine for the virus.
- Make instructions to avoid Covid-19 transmission everywhere.

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Quote from: Yatsan on June 07, 2020, 07:48:18 AM

Not one a maybes coz vaccine is the only way to get this pandemic out of our place. To date there are still no vaccine for the covid-19, nevertheless possible cure are still on clinical trials under medical investigation. What everyone of us need to do is self-care, the world has not discover the cure yet so we need to do the protection against the virus ourselves, basically eating nutritious food, wearing protection gears, etc.

There is no way we are getting a vaccine anytime soon, there are many labs blowing their brains to come up with a vaccine but we are just having clinical trials and it will take a long time to get to an end product that can be used in a medical facitlity.

Quote from: Yatsan on June 07, 2020, 07:48:18 AM

Economically, we are devastated I can't help to think to myself what could be happening now if there is no pandemic disease. Seems like the virus was strongly created, lol just kidding.

Economically it is the worst situation in a very long time and the damage can be reprimand by the politicians but it will show the weakness pretty soon and the entire market will come down drastically.

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I agree that there could be someone or group of people behind this virus which is dominating the world up until now. Concerning to the economy, I believe that the only country that can recover fast is the one who can implement the rules to the society and has unity.

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Quote from: hahay on June 05, 2020, 10:33:03 AM

Maybe the only way is about vaccines, because even lockdowns and other things like maintaining health and other protocols still don't guarantee that this virus can end and even recently I got news about the very high mortality in Brazil in just a day or within 24 hours the death rate is 1,437.

Not one a maybes coz vaccine is the only way to get this pandemic out of our place. To date there are still no vaccine for the covid-19, nevertheless possible cure are still on clinical trials under medical investigation. What everyone of us need to do is self-care, the world has not discover the cure yet so we need to do the protection against the virus ourselves, basically eating nutritious food, wearing protection gears, etc. Economically, we are devastated I can't help to think to myself what could be happening now if there is no pandemic disease. Seems like the virus was strongly created, lol just kidding.

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I think the world must develop the vaccine sooner. If that happened, of course the whole world will demand for it. Better to prioritized people who are currently suffering from the virus to save them then all people must also take the vaccine so we can guarantee our safety even if it still exist.

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Quote from: hahay on June 05, 2020, 10:33:03 AM

Maybe the only way is about vaccines, because even lockdowns and other things like maintaining health and other protocols still don't guarantee that this virus can end and even recently I got news about the very high mortality in Brazil in just a day or within 24 hours the death rate is 1,437. So I can't feel safer if vaccines are not yet available or haven't been released, because even some countries have gradually no longer tightened the lockdown while at the same time and in fact this virus has not completely disappeared.

Doctors are the ones who should make vaccines for this and all other viruses. Instead of investing in the war industry countries should invest in doctors and vaccines would be found faster. Either way, nothing depends on us, there are elected officials, educated people, they should find a way to end viruses and to reopen economies, they are the ones responsible for closing, so nobody else can reopen it without them!

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