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Quote from: Wakate on May 22, 2024, 09:24:29 AM

We can only try our best to help people that have been addicted to gambling to relinquish from it with advise but we can't force them to stop. Since gambling can be done easily with just an access to mobile phone. There are still gambling that are aware of their condition but would not stop because they do not have the discipline that would assist them to relinquish from it.

This is not an easy step that is why we can always talk to the person I suspect is gambling addicted indirectly so that they would not feel bad or felt like what they are doing is very bad. Once we can develop different steps to help people that are addicted to gambling, it would help us to be able to balance what works for a person and what will not work for the next person since we all are quite different.

Holding an addict's attention deserves patience and perseverance. The conversations must be countervailing. It's the duty of the friend to stick around and help out in resolving the problem gambling habit by enduring the whole arguments, misunderstanding, and quarrel that could erupt from the process of changing an addict.

To reduce the rate of such occurrences from happening, dropping the advise strategically would be effective in changing the addict. Kindness attracts addicts to amend their behaviors to a better level. The moment an addict gets involved with the advice of his friend he'd begin to adjust. Hence timing is the ultimate goal of the helper or therapist. Newbies on the other hand, should as well attach themselves with a person who could serve as a temporary therapist and guide to help them escape addiction.

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If we are talking about someone who has never gambled before, we can't do anything to stop them from trying, because we can't be with them 7/24 so if they do happen to come across gambling and want to give it a shot, they can go 40+ years in life without ever gambling and then give it a shot one day and become an addict eventually. We heard stories about people like that from all over the world, it is not a new thing and it will never be a new thing.

Yes, we need to allow them to gamble to learn but it will be very good to tell them to avoid somethings that will make them to be addicted to gambling, and it will make the beginniners not to use big money to gamble in the process of learning from gambling.

Gamble once a day, no matter the winning or the losing, it will help beginners not to be addicted to gambling because it will help them to economize their money to be able to last long in gambling without be addicted to gambling, which is possible if you can gamble once in a day.

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If they do start, and they are just newbies at gambling, that's when we can get in and try to stop them from going any further.

You don't allow them to go further to be addicted to gambling before you can impact to them, because some of them don't know what it will cause them in the future if they continue gambling when they are addicted to gambling.

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Quote from: Wakate on May 22, 2024, 09:24:29 AM

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Quote from: slapper on May 20, 2024, 08:07:14 AM

Brutal, man. Even brilliant people can fall prey to addiction. Knowing the odds doesn't matter when your brain releases dopamine. Hell, knowing sometimes makes it worse, right? The game becomes 'can I outsmart the system?' Even in a losing game, the exhilaration is intoxicating. The key is confidence, not deluded overconfidence. Confidence understands its boundaries and when to go. It's "Yeah, I get the odds, but I also know I'm human and vulnerable.

Can we really help anyone, either beginner or expert, not to be addicted to gambling? I think aside from encouraging the individual from staying away from places and people that can easily reflect them back to the gambling again. Avoiding those vulnerable points that can lead him to return to gambling after leaving it will really be of a great remedy to his quit of the gambling entirely, if and only if he listens and take heed from your advices.

Ultimately, everyone is entitled to their own decisions, to either quit or regulate his addiction towards the gambling as quiting gambling can be some of the toughest decisions one can achieve in their lives since it is a behavioral process.

We can only try our best to help people that have been addicted to gambling to relinquish from it with advise but we can't force them to stop. Since gambling can be done easily with just an access to mobile phone. There are still gambling that are aware of their condition but would not stop because they do not have the discipline that would assist them to relinquish from it.

This is not an easy step that is why we can always talk to the person I suspect is gambling addicted indirectly so that they would not feel bad or felt like what they are doing is very bad. Once we can develop different steps to help people that are addicted to gambling, it would help us to be able to balance what works for a person and what will not work for the next person since we all are quite different.

No matter how hard you would be making out those advises or would really be telling about against doing gambling but still in the end of the day on which there's no way that you could really be able to make them stop because everything would really be that depending on how a certain individual do make out such decisions basing up on the thing that they've been dealing ito.
We can make out some advises but majority or most of the time it would really be gets ignored because newbies will definitely be playing and dealing up on the things that they do believe into.
Its not really that bad to show up some concern about on other people because of gambling but we know that having that involvement with others peoples lives then it is really that
something a little bit that too much. This is why its better to let them be able to experience the worst before they would be making have the control.

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If they are one of those people who really find it difficult to believe in anything experienced by others such as the downturn experienced by gamblers who have entered the addiction phase and cannot learn various things that should be a lesson or example of what has been experienced by others then in the end I think only time will be able to change them, or the point is that they are just waiting for time to experience the same downturn experienced by others.

And maybe I would say that it is a typical gambler who comes without having a proper understanding of how gambling really is, most likely they only see gambling in terms of winning opportunities, and maybe also their stubbornness is formed because they have managed to get a big win which indirectly makes them even more convinced and believe that gambling is a place to make a lot of money, so let it go because only adversity can make them realize.

To be more precise, I noticed in some beginners a character trait that really bothers them. They want to check everything for themselves, and no matter what they saw, how thousands of players wrote that winning is not easy and you can lose money. So they believe in their chosenness and that they will be the lucky ones. You can’t be sure about gambling because you have to pay for it with money. I take careful steps and don't try to prove anything in the game. This is what I would advise to those new to the game, don't wear the crown too early. Also, there is no need to sit down to play after a quarrel with loved ones or after alcohol, this is exactly what can drive us to the very bottom.

Among other things, there is one more piece of advice, this is to look at interviews with players who have been playing for more than 5-10 years and what happened to them.

And the point is that their biggest mistake is to believe too much or too confident that they will be able to make a lot of money in their gambling activities, when obviously having confidence or high confidence will not be able to affect the results at the end of the session at all, and simply put if you are unlucky then you will lose, and vice versa if you are lucky then even though for example you are not sure about the session you are doing but the results will definitely win if you are lucky.

This means that only luck can lead a person to victory and not belief or whatever method they believe in, on the other hand yes you suggested something good which prohibits us or anyone else from gambling when they are at an inappropriate time such as having personal problems or consuming alcohol because obviously it can trigger a lot of problems to occur when you gamble in the midst of a hot situation or in the midst of your disturbed consciousness, and I believe that whatever the decision is if it is based on rational and realistic thinking then it will certainly produce the right conclusion.

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Quote from: zuzie on May 22, 2024, 08:58:23 AM

Quote from: junder on May 22, 2024, 12:00:21 AM

when we gamble with good self-control, of course the losses that will occur will not be too big, but we should be able to minimize the losses that will occur, being aware that gambling will only make us experience losses because the chance of losing is greater than Winning is real, for beginners, I hope they are not careless in gambling. Don't just think about the winning side, you can also think about the losing side too.

Of course, good self-control will bring good results for us, especially when carrying out gambling activities, by having good control we are not careless in every decision we make and this will also help us to minimize the loss of a lot of money.
And winning or losing is real and will definitely happen. We as gamblers must be able to understand it so that it doesn't burden us and make us stressed thinking about it.

maybe beginners usually won't be aware of this, especially those who can win at the beginning of the gambling they do, they will probably only think about being able to win by gambling until they have the thought of being able to make money by gambling, of course this will make So they continue to gamble without looking at the risks, and maybe with one or two losses they won't really care about it, but after that, when they have experienced consecutive losses and are still gambling, this is where they can be seen that they don't have good self-control, of course. We can remind them to gamble appropriately, so that they don't get trapped by their own thoughts, as in many cases that have happened.

It's true what you said, gambling will only end in two things, namely winning or losing. but what is clear is that defeat will happen more often, and here we have to be able to understand it well so that we don't have a feeling of being fined, or a feeling of wanting to recover losses that have occurred because if that happens then what can happen is losing more money instead of being able to make a profit. Money.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on March 30, 2024, 08:56:40 AM

The reason why I'm not addicted to gambling is because even before I started to play gambling I already understand gambling and its addiction,

It was a sobering effect for me to observe desperate gamblers who borrowed money to continue gambling and created debts when the initial deposit was completely lost.

Watch those who won at the casino and, having found themselves in profit (it would seem, take the money and run without looking back from the casino), still continue to play in the hope of increasing their winnings, but in the end they lose everything and even more (above the initial deposit) .

Indeed, the impact of gambling addiction is very sad because indeed what we get from gambling will be something that we will never feel enough for us to get if we get a win, especially if we have gotten a big win, then small wins will not be priced and continue to look for it to get a big win again.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on March 30, 2024, 08:56:40 AM

I think if gambling companies can help to giving beginners to understand gambling and addiction it will help and reduce the rate at which people get addicted o gambling, I mean good lesson for people to get understanding. Or do gambling companies benefit from gamblers who are addicted, which the awareness of getting addicted can affect their business?.

What? So that gambling companies help beginners not to become addicted to gambling? This is complete nonsense, the same as “bees against honey”.

The entire gambling industry is tied to this psychological addiction of gamblers and makes huge money from it. I would never believe that gambling companies would fight gambling addiction.

Yes that's true, but there are some casinos that provide stop gambling services or addiction treatment services, and if I don't forget there are countries that require stop gambling services in CMIIIW casinos, but I don't know how effective it is for addiction treatment, but I'm sure it almost doesn't matter that he wants to stop gambling through the stop gambling service platform.

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Quote from: iBaba on May 21, 2024, 04:21:36 PM

Quote from: slapper on May 20, 2024, 08:07:14 AM

Brutal, man. Even brilliant people can fall prey to addiction. Knowing the odds doesn't matter when your brain releases dopamine. Hell, knowing sometimes makes it worse, right? The game becomes 'can I outsmart the system?' Even in a losing game, the exhilaration is intoxicating. The key is confidence, not deluded overconfidence. Confidence understands its boundaries and when to go. It's "Yeah, I get the odds, but I also know I'm human and vulnerable.

Can we really help anyone, either beginner or expert, not to be addicted to gambling? I think aside from encouraging the individual from staying away from places and people that can easily reflect them back to the gambling again. Avoiding those vulnerable points that can lead him to return to gambling after leaving it will really be of a great remedy to his quit of the gambling entirely, if and only if he listens and take heed from your advices.

Ultimately, everyone is entitled to their own decisions, to either quit or regulate his addiction towards the gambling as quiting gambling can be some of the toughest decisions one can achieve in their lives since it is a behavioral process.

We can only try our best to help people that have been addicted to gambling to relinquish from it with advise but we can't force them to stop. Since gambling can be done easily with just an access to mobile phone. There are still gambling that are aware of their condition but would not stop because they do not have the discipline that would assist them to relinquish from it.

This is not an easy step that is why we can always talk to the person I suspect is gambling addicted indirectly so that they would not feel bad or felt like what they are doing is very bad. Once we can develop different steps to help people that are addicted to gambling, it would help us to be able to balance what works for a person and what will not work for the next person since we all are quite different.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on March 30, 2024, 08:56:40 AM

The reason why I'm not addicted to gambling is because even before I started to play gambling I already understand gambling and its addiction,

It was a sobering effect for me to observe desperate gamblers who borrowed money to continue gambling and created debts when the initial deposit was completely lost.

Watch those who won at the casino and, having found themselves in profit (it would seem, take the money and run without looking back from the casino), still continue to play in the hope of increasing their winnings, but in the end they lose everything and even more (above the initial deposit) .

Quote from: Rockstarguy on March 30, 2024, 08:56:40 AM

I think majority of people who are addicted to gambling is because they do not understand gambling as beginners, the rules and the side effects of playing gambling excessively.

Not only beginners, but also experienced gamblers are addicted to gambling.

It's not their lack of understanding "of the rules and the side effects of playing gambling excessively", but the fact that it's impossible not to become addicted to gambling if you continue to play.

Quote from: Rockstarguy on March 30, 2024, 08:56:40 AM

I think if gambling companies can help to giving beginners to understand gambling and addiction it will help and reduce the rate at which people get addicted o gambling, I mean good lesson for people to get understanding. Or do gambling companies benefit from gamblers who are addicted, which the awareness of getting addicted can affect their business?.

What? So that gambling companies help beginners not to become addicted to gambling? This is complete nonsense, the same as “bees against honey”.

The entire gambling industry is tied to this psychological addiction of gamblers and makes huge money from it. I would never believe that gambling companies would fight gambling addiction.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on May 21, 2024, 04:06:40 PM

Stories teaches people a lot of things, people learns fast from others stories, but there are still people who hardly beliefs others stories because they don't think the same negative things will ever happened to them. However those who don't learn from others stories will always learn the hard way.

Yes, and the point is from your opinion that we should not just believe other people's stories that we have never seen in real or directly, maybe other people tell stories only when they experience good times, namely victory, and with that we might be interested. and curious to follow immediately.

Quote from: junder on May 22, 2024, 12:00:21 AM

when we gamble with good self-control, of course the losses that will occur will not be too big, but we should be able to minimize the losses that will occur, being aware that gambling will only make us experience losses because the chance of losing is greater than Winning is real, for beginners, I hope they are not careless in gambling. Don't just think about the winning side, you can also think about the losing side too.

Of course, good self-control will bring good results for us, especially when carrying out gambling activities, by having good control we are not careless in every decision we make and this will also help us to minimize the loss of a lot of money.
And winning or losing is real and will definitely happen. We as gamblers must be able to understand it so that it doesn't burden us and make us stressed thinking about it.

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Quote from: zuzie on May 21, 2024, 02:39:24 AM

Quote from: junder on May 20, 2024, 09:29:08 PM

That's right, maintaining good control and always considering what will be done or making a decision, even in this case it doesn't only apply to gambling, but for other things in everyday life it also applies because we have to consider everything well so that no regrets at the end. remembering that gambling can indeed divert focus, this is where it is important for us to be able to control ourselves, don't let us be hypnotized by gambling, with the end of gambling ending in defeat or victory, it can also make us addicted, especially when we win, the attraction to continue gambling is there will be and if we can't control ourselves of course gambling will continue.

And the point is that self-control and controlling emotional feelings are very influential in carrying out gambling activities and other activities in our daily lives because with good behavior, carrying out all types of activities will feel more comfortable and will not cause too big a risk in the future.
If the results sometimes do not match expectations, we try to be ready to accept it.
Moreover, in gambling we do it with good control so that the losses incurred are quite minimal and if we lose we accept it and it will not be a big problem in our lives.

What you say is true, doing everything with good behavior and thinking can make us comfortable in doing or carrying it out. Of course, in gambling, we must be able to have good self-control to avoid large losses due to our own careless actions that are carried out without prior consideration. Those who cannot control themselves will usually continue gambling even though they have experienced consecutive losses. also for those who don't have good self-control, of course they can spend a lot of money in just one gambling session, it's not surprising that many of them experience big losses because they don't have self-control and it's not easy to have good self-control. Good.

when we gamble with good self-control, of course the losses that will occur will not be too big, but we should be able to minimize the losses that will occur, being aware that gambling will only make us experience losses because the chance of losing is greater than Winning is real, for beginners, I hope they are not careless in gambling. Don't just think about the winning side, you can also think about the losing side too.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on May 21, 2024, 04:06:40 PM

Quote from: zuzie on May 19, 2024, 02:11:14 AM

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With so many cases of bad impacts that have occurred, I think we can use it as a lesson, not even just from gambling. In my opinion, from various things of course we can take lessons from people who have experienced bad things, that way we can see what the impact is like if we gamble excessively, but of course every person is different, there are those who Regardless of this, they continue to gamble following their wishes to be able to get the win they want so that they don't care about the losses or losses that they experience more often.

for beginners who are just getting involved in gambling, maybe they will only think about winning and of course that is not true, therefore we as those who already have experience should be able to remind them by advising them not to be too obsessed with chasing winnings at gambling because that will only make them just in trouble.

Agree, by seeing and hearing the bad experiences that have occurred and been experienced by experienced gamblers, of course we can use this as a lesson for us in playing gambling, remaining consistent in maintaining good control and always being careful every time we take action or decisions.
And the attitude I have said above certainly applies to all groups of gamblers, both experienced and new. because we are both gamblers and we will equally feel the impact of risk in gambling.

Stories teaches people a lot of things, people learns fast from others stories, but there are still people who hardly beliefs others stories because they don't think the same negative things will ever happened to them. However those who don't learn from others stories will always learn the hard way.

This is a misconceptions because it's your basic knowledge or instinct that makes you to think that way, I know basically that what is making you not to think that people don't learn from others is base on they don't think in same frequency, basically I know very well that whoever that don't think in same direction with you it's obvious that the person is making it's own research and basically..

The lessons you should learn in gambling should be the one you uttermost or critically observe it's root and foundation of it, I know very well that what we needed here is to make sure that everything works out according to what we planned for, but I know that if you want to be successful in gambling you make out your device, because their is some certain device you will apply and it will make you to be comfortable and also makes you to undergoes certain things

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Quote from: zuzie on May 19, 2024, 02:11:14 AM

Agree, by seeing and hearing the bad experiences that have occurred and been experienced by experienced gamblers, of course we can use this as a lesson for us in playing gambling, remaining consistent in maintaining good control and always being careful every time we take action or decisions.
And the attitude I have said above certainly applies to all groups of gamblers, both experienced and new. because we are both gamblers and we will equally feel the impact of risk in gambling.

Stories teaches people a lot of things, people learns fast from others stories, but there are still people who hardly beliefs others stories because they don't think the same negative things will ever happened to them. However those who don't learn from others stories will always learn the hard way.

If they are one of those people who really find it difficult to believe in anything experienced by others such as the downturn experienced by gamblers who have entered the addiction phase and cannot learn various things that should be a lesson or example of what has been experienced by others then in the end I think only time will be able to change them, or the point is that they are just waiting for time to experience the same downturn experienced by others.

And maybe I would say that it is a typical gambler who comes without having a proper understanding of how gambling really is, most likely they only see gambling in terms of winning opportunities, and maybe also their stubbornness is formed because they have managed to get a big win which indirectly makes them even more convinced and believe that gambling is a place to make a lot of money, so let it go because only adversity can make them realize.

To be more precise, I noticed in some beginners a character trait that really bothers them. They want to check everything for themselves, and no matter what they saw, how thousands of players wrote that winning is not easy and you can lose money. So they believe in their chosenness and that they will be the lucky ones. You can’t be sure about gambling because you have to pay for it with money. I take careful steps and don't try to prove anything in the game. This is what I would advise to those new to the game, don't wear the crown too early. Also, there is no need to sit down to play after a quarrel with loved ones or after alcohol, this is exactly what can drive us to the very bottom.

Among other things, there is one more piece of advice, this is to look at interviews with players who have been playing for more than 5-10 years and what happened to them.

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Quote from: iBaba on May 21, 2024, 04:21:36 PM

Quote from: slapper on May 20, 2024, 08:07:14 AM

Brutal, man. Even brilliant people can fall prey to addiction. Knowing the odds doesn't matter when your brain releases dopamine. Hell, knowing sometimes makes it worse, right? The game becomes 'can I outsmart the system?' Even in a losing game, the exhilaration is intoxicating. The key is confidence, not deluded overconfidence. Confidence understands its boundaries and when to go. It's "Yeah, I get the odds, but I also know I'm human and vulnerable.

Can we really help anyone, either beginner or expert, not to be addicted to gambling? I think aside from encouraging the individual from staying away from places and people that can easily reflect them back to the gambling again. Avoiding those vulnerable points that can lead him to return to gambling after leaving it will really be of a great remedy to his quit of the gambling entirely, if and only if he listens and take heed from your advices.

Ultimately, everyone is entitled to their own decisions, to either quit or regulate his addiction towards the gambling as quiting gambling can be some of the toughest decisions one can achieve in their lives since it is a behavioral process.

We can give out some advises but doesnt mean that it will help them out on not to get addicted. Why? they wont really be caring on someones advise specially into those people that they dont even know.
The main thing that would be on their mind on how the heck they would really be following someones advise if they could really be that simply that play on their own and using with their own money?
For sure the primary thing that comes up into your mind is on how you would really be that stopping yourself to play if you are just using your own money and not with others.
Also, when it comes or talks about interest then people does have that different sets of views towards gambling on which there are ones who would really be that tending to play
because they are interested with gambling and other related things into it and there are ones who would really be that avoiding or skipping it up because they dont like the risks involved.

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Quote from: slapper on May 20, 2024, 08:07:14 AM

Brutal, man. Even brilliant people can fall prey to addiction. Knowing the odds doesn't matter when your brain releases dopamine. Hell, knowing sometimes makes it worse, right? The game becomes 'can I outsmart the system?' Even in a losing game, the exhilaration is intoxicating. The key is confidence, not deluded overconfidence. Confidence understands its boundaries and when to go. It's "Yeah, I get the odds, but I also know I'm human and vulnerable.

Can we really help anyone, either beginner or expert, not to be addicted to gambling? I think aside from encouraging the individual from staying away from places and people that can easily reflect them back to the gambling again. Avoiding those vulnerable points that can lead him to return to gambling after leaving it will really be of a great remedy to his quit of the gambling entirely, if and only if he listens and take heed from your advices.

Ultimately, everyone is entitled to their own decisions, to either quit or regulate his addiction towards the gambling as quiting gambling can be some of the toughest decisions one can achieve in their lives since it is a behavioral process.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on May 21, 2024, 04:06:40 PM

Quote from: zuzie on May 19, 2024, 02:11:14 AM

Agree, by seeing and hearing the bad experiences that have occurred and been experienced by experienced gamblers, of course we can use this as a lesson for us in playing gambling, remaining consistent in maintaining good control and always being careful every time we take action or decisions.
And the attitude I have said above certainly applies to all groups of gamblers, both experienced and new. because we are both gamblers and we will equally feel the impact of risk in gambling.

Stories teaches people a lot of things, people learns fast from others stories, but there are still people who hardly beliefs others stories because they don't think the same negative things will ever happened to them. However those who don't learn from others stories will always learn the hard way.

If they are one of those people who really find it difficult to believe in anything experienced by others such as the downturn experienced by gamblers who have entered the addiction phase and cannot learn various things that should be a lesson or example of what has been experienced by others then in the end I think only time will be able to change them, or the point is that they are just waiting for time to experience the same downturn experienced by others.

And maybe I would say that it is a typical gambler who comes without having a proper understanding of how gambling really is, most likely they only see gambling in terms of winning opportunities, and maybe also their stubbornness is formed because they have managed to get a big win which indirectly makes them even more convinced and believe that gambling is a place to make a lot of money, so let it go because only adversity can make them realize.

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Quote from: zuzie on May 19, 2024, 02:11:14 AM

Quote from: junder on May 18, 2024, 05:23:19 AM

With so many cases of bad impacts that have occurred, I think we can use it as a lesson, not even just from gambling. In my opinion, from various things of course we can take lessons from people who have experienced bad things, that way we can see what the impact is like if we gamble excessively, but of course every person is different, there are those who Regardless of this, they continue to gamble following their wishes to be able to get the win they want so that they don't care about the losses or losses that they experience more often.

for beginners who are just getting involved in gambling, maybe they will only think about winning and of course that is not true, therefore we as those who already have experience should be able to remind them by advising them not to be too obsessed with chasing winnings at gambling because that will only make them just in trouble.

Agree, by seeing and hearing the bad experiences that have occurred and been experienced by experienced gamblers, of course we can use this as a lesson for us in playing gambling, remaining consistent in maintaining good control and always being careful every time we take action or decisions.
And the attitude I have said above certainly applies to all groups of gamblers, both experienced and new. because we are both gamblers and we will equally feel the impact of risk in gambling.

Stories teaches people a lot of things, people learns fast from others stories, but there are still people who hardly beliefs others stories because they don't think the same negative things will ever happened to them. However those who don't learn from others stories will always learn the hard way.

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Quote from: leonair on May 16, 2024, 10:47:35 AM

How many of us can do that if someone can show newbies with evidence of the evils of tides so they can take precautions from the start? We ourselves are busy with our own work and it is natural that everyone is busy with his own work and if he gets some free time he likes to do entertainment in various ways, a part of which may be gambling, watching movies, watching sports etc. But if someone chooses gambling as a profession or tries to choose it as a source of income, they must face many pitfalls. Therefore, from the beginning of gambling, it is possible to protect only if one can show someone with evidence the bad aspects of gambling

It's not that difficult to show pieces of evidence that gambling isn't a business where we could make money out of it. Most of the time we are losers in this industry.
Play the game for a while and you will see in your graph what I am talking about. The game summary. In 20k of bets, I can always see the house edge winning in most of my games. Therefore, I just think of it as a wagering game where you want to wager more increase your VIP rank, and maybe take advantage of the bonuses and raffles that a gambling site gives out. When it comes to hitting that biggest multiplier, it's not that easy. We will have to spend more money than what we will get. It's better if in those moments we could at least enjoy what we did than playing the game with the purpose of beating the house because that's impossible.
That truth will make a beginner think twice about spending too much.

the true story is that to make money gambling either you are the house or you are lucky and know when to stop
there aren't many stories of those who beat the house consistently overtime
and if there are I'd love to hear it, please share.

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Quote from: junder on May 20, 2024, 09:29:08 PM

That's right, maintaining good control and always considering what will be done or making a decision, even in this case it doesn't only apply to gambling, but for other things in everyday life it also applies because we have to consider everything well so that no regrets at the end. remembering that gambling can indeed divert focus, this is where it is important for us to be able to control ourselves, don't let us be hypnotized by gambling, with the end of gambling ending in defeat or victory, it can also make us addicted, especially when we win, the attraction to continue gambling is there will be and if we can't control ourselves of course gambling will continue.

And the point is that self-control and controlling emotional feelings are very influential in carrying out gambling activities and other activities in our daily lives because with good behavior, carrying out all types of activities will feel more comfortable and will not cause too big a risk in the future.
If the results sometimes do not match expectations, we try to be ready to accept it.
Moreover, in gambling we do it with good control so that the losses incurred are quite minimal and if we lose we accept it and it will not be a big problem in our lives.

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Quote from: zuzie on May 19, 2024, 02:11:14 AM

Quote from: junder on May 18, 2024, 05:23:19 AM

With so many cases of bad impacts that have occurred, I think we can use it as a lesson, not even just from gambling. In my opinion, from various things of course we can take lessons from people who have experienced bad things, that way we can see what the impact is like if we gamble excessively, but of course every person is different, there are those who Regardless of this, they continue to gamble following their wishes to be able to get the win they want so that they don't care about the losses or losses that they experience more often.

for beginners who are just getting involved in gambling, maybe they will only think about winning and of course that is not true, therefore we as those who already have experience should be able to remind them by advising them not to be too obsessed with chasing winnings at gambling because that will only make them just in trouble.

Agree, by seeing and hearing the bad experiences that have occurred and been experienced by experienced gamblers, of course we can use this as a lesson for us in playing gambling, remaining consistent in maintaining good control and always being careful every time we take action or decisions.
And the attitude I have said above certainly applies to all groups of gamblers, both experienced and new. because we are both gamblers and we will equally feel the impact of risk in gambling.

That's right, maintaining good control and always considering what will be done or making a decision, even in this case it doesn't only apply to gambling, but for other things in everyday life it also applies because we have to consider everything well so that no regrets at the end. remembering that gambling can indeed divert focus, this is where it is important for us to be able to control ourselves, don't let us be hypnotized by gambling, with the end of gambling ending in defeat or victory, it can also make us addicted, especially when we win, the attraction to continue gambling is there will be and if we can't control ourselves of course gambling will continue.

That's right, for beginners or those who are experienced, of course they have to be able to maintain good self-control, this doesn't mean that those who have been gambling for a long time or those who are experienced don't consider the actions they will take, in fact, when they are experienced they already know what actions they should take. However, even if they are aware that gambling is a means of entertainment, if they are not aware of this, they will also take actions that are not considered beforehand, it is possible that they will also take risky actions.

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Quote from: GxSTxV on May 20, 2024, 05:33:46 AM

I don’t think that every person who is aware of gambling addiction and how gambling is working can avoid that addiction, sometimes it is the quite opposite when it comes to a smart person who is very aware of all the casino games and the possibilities of winning, but due to his addictive character and not only chasing some wins, he go through a gambling addiction because of that euphoric or adrenaline rush he feels on every bet and risk he takes.
Every licensed casino has signs and warning about the risks of gambling, some casinos they even provide their gamblers with educational videos about gambling, how to gamble in moderation and responsibly. However, this is not enough to prevent people from going into addiction, the same thing goes to cigarettes, alcoholism and drugs addiction, we are all aware of it but many of us fall into one of these things once or twice in our lives.

and the important processes that must be known when you have already moved towards addiction must also be known by gamblers. I agree that some gamblers know what is happening in the activities we do. To get out of gambling addiction, to be honest, it is very difficult if you rely on self-awareness. Even though it can be done, it may not be done for a long time or it may not be consistent. we will still return to gambling in the end.
control and encouragement from other people are also important for us to get through this phase. to get out may be difficult and will meet resistance from our strong desires. What can be done is to put better controls in place and that will keep us gambling within good and responsible limits.

Yes, it is something that gamblers, especially those who are not yet addicted, should know about some of the signs that can lead them to addiction, such as experiencing an increased interest in gambling that makes them always think about gambling at any time, or that makes it difficult for them to spend time without gambling, and obviously for this problem I think it must require strong self-awareness to be able to realize that these are signs of addiction.

Because in some cases people usually fall into it unknowingly and end up addicted, although on the other hand it is difficult to rely on self-awareness but this is the only thing that can be done if we really want to avoid the possibility of addiction, and maybe I would suggest applying firmness in your self-awareness when you are gambling, and also make sure to always gamble when you are calm without having other problems in your personal life so that you avoid emotions that can make you make harmful decisions unconsciously.

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