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Topic: How come we are still discussing Gavincoin when he's the only one supporting it? - page 2. (Read 1890 times)

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I think you are misunderstanding what is going on.  I found this in another post and I think it might help you understand better: https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-217-the-bitcoin-block-size-discussion


It is an audio interview with Gavin and he explains things in plain english.  There is a real concern with the 1mb size and something needs to be done.  The members opposing Gavin jsut so happen to be invested in something called "blockstream" which also just so happens to be a solution to the problem of 1mb.  It seems a little fishy to me.  While I have not seen any direct evidence yet this could be a huge conflict of interest.  So don't be afraid of Gavin, be afraid of the others.  Or at least lets hope that they don't have a conflict of interest because that would make them very naughty indeed.

I have been listening to it and Gavin himself admits in it that 32MB blocks were removed back in the day because they enabled a network threatening/existential exploit. There was no explanation in the interview why this shouldn't be a concern now.

Furthermore the blckstream thing you bring up is propaganda by the pro-Gavin-shills who try their very best to put everyone who opposes Gavincoin into a bad image.
Just because some developers are working on offchain solutions doesn't mean they are biased. They are doing exactly the work that needs to be done to keep Bitcoin defensible. It is not a conflict of interests, it is necessary work and real innovation. Just going ahead and bloating the blockchain is no innovation.

There are 100 things that can be done to increase max txs without forking the coin without consensus. None of that has been explored. Gavin just wants 'my way or the highway'.

Gavin with his behaviour turns off not only the other devs but also investors and actually threatens Bitcoin which could potentially become worthless with this desaster.

This whole thing to me looks like a power grab/attack on BTC
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I think you are misunderstanding what is going on.  I found this in another post and I think it might help you understand better: https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-217-the-bitcoin-block-size-discussion


It is an audio interview with Gavin and he explains things in plain english.  There is a real concern with the 1mb size and something needs to be done.  The members opposing Gavin jsut so happen to be invested in something called "blockstream" which also just so happens to be a solution to the problem of 1mb.  It seems a little fishy to me.  While I have not seen any direct evidence yet this could be a huge conflict of interest.  So don't be afraid of Gavin, be afraid of the others.  Or at least lets hope that they don't have a conflict of interest because that would make them very naughty indeed.
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Among the devs Gavin is the only one being 'pro'. All others have 'significant concerns'.

Gavins' definition of consensus: "I think it's cool and everyone else has to agree or will be 'left behind' " (his rethorics of blackmailing the whole community)

Maxwell:
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"Gavin is the only committer to Bitcoin core who supports this particular proposal at this time. The rest of us have significant concerns about the impact on the security and the decentralization of the network; and potentially some process concerns."

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/34y48z/mike_hearn_the_capacity_cliff_and_why_we_cant_use/cqz9xf3

AND he's taking it directly to the public.
So all this shenangians just takes place with Gavin and his 5 shills posting from 50 accounts on twitter and this forum.

There is no consensus anywhere!
Not among the devs, not among the miners, not among businesses and certainly not in the community (old polls show 56% pro and these polls are probably rigged by his shillarmy)

We need to see this Gavincoin shitproposal as an attack an Bitcoin.

My recommendation is to 100% ignore Gavin and his shills aswell as his altcoin (XT). Just do not update and do not support the Gavincoin BS. Consensus and decentralisation is much more important than this. Gavin his harming Bitcoin.




This thread is selfmoderated because i'm sick of the shills and Gavincoin hurray-boys will be deleted.
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