How dangerous is Isis [Islamic State] to America?

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Quote from: zolace on August 18, 2014, 09:53:41 AM

Quote from: noviapriani on August 18, 2014, 09:44:01 AM

It is going to be a long and painful war against these savages. We need to kill as many of them as we can while we are engaged in the ME. There are several million Muslims already living in the USA and if they all go radical at once there will be hell to pay.

if we are going to fight the mid-east, annihilate them all. Never mind a little fighting here and a little fighting there. Go in and conquer the whole area at once. Then divide it up as we or Nato sees fit.
Nor is it Muslims per se who live in the US who are the problem. If they are citizens and if they are from anywhere except the mid-east, they are probably our allies. It isn't the Islamic religion that's the problem, it's the middle east that's the problem.

America has started many wars. Of course it has failed to win them but has declared that victory has been achieved. Then it has buggered off and left the mess and countless more enemies to clear up the resulting mess.

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this ISIS already become world common enemy now.
so i think USA can easy eliminated them with their CIA operation.
ISIS can lived and growth in a war country only, not in a peace country.

the questions is ..Why USA and Nato didnt crush them now before too late ?

conspiracy theory ? Cool

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Oh god this is getting very interesting...first of all...let me point out not everyone is a savage..so if you think the muslims are savages what makes you think they don't think the same way about you guys? First of all..my mom is christian but my dad is muslim..they never had any arguments about religion. Secondly...if you are thinking of calling them nomads / barbarians I would recommend that you please go brush up on your history...those very same barbarians were the ones that gave you about 60% of the scientific equipments that you use now a days to reach the stage where you have gotten. There will always be fanatics in every single religion. The actions of a few deranged minds should never be used to condemn an entire race. That is the same thought process as hitler had. He hated the jews and wanted them annihilated for what they had done to his family. As far as ISIS is concerned..it was america's fault for not nipping them in the butt when they had the chance. Now only time can tell whether or not they will become a threat to the US or not at a scale that AL-QAEDA did. They allowed the formation of ISIS by arming them up.

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Quote from: noviapriani on August 18, 2014, 09:44:01 AM

It is going to be a long and painful war against these savages. We need to kill as many of them as we can while we are engaged in the ME. There are several million Muslims already living in the USA and if they all go radical at once there will be hell to pay.

if we are going to fight the mid-east, annihilate them all. Never mind a little fighting here and a little fighting there. Go in and conquer the whole area at once. Then divide it up as we or Nato sees fit.
Nor is it Muslims per se who live in the US who are the problem. If they are citizens and if they are from anywhere except the mid-east, they are probably our allies. It isn't the Islamic religion that's the problem, it's the middle east that's the problem.

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It is going to be a long and painful war against these savages. We need to kill as many of them as we can while we are engaged in the ME. There are several million Muslims already living in the USA and if they all go radical at once there will be hell to pay.

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Quote from: Btcvilla on August 17, 2014, 08:35:23 PM

They are not much of a threat to the U.S, mabey a few small scale terroist attacks, but nothing much to do huge damage (worse then 9/11).

Are you sure? If they can recruit a couple of hardliners in the US and a couple of others with brains, they can cause quite a big damage. Just kill a couple of blacks and spray white supremacist signs around, and then do the same to whites with black panther or similar signs. Then start campaigning on the social medias calling for revenge. What do you think, what would happen?

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Quote from: Daniel91 on August 17, 2014, 09:07:05 AM

Quote from: cryptasm on August 17, 2014, 07:56:21 AM

ISIS is no threat to the US whatsoever, they have no airforce, navy or long range ballisitic missiles.

Best if we send in UN peace keepers, last thing the people need there is Iraq war III.

I don't think so.
They don't have airforce, navy or long range ballistic missiles, it's true but neither Al Qaeda had this, and still they could attack America very successfully on September 11, 2001.
So, even if just small group of this dangerous terrorist organization will be able to enter USA, (maybe even USA citizens of Muslim faith) we will have real security problem there.

Yeah it's impossible to completely safe from a terrorist attack, at the moment the US is making itself more of a target by invading countries and drone striking innocent people etc.

In my opinion they should send in some some SAS/Navy Seals to assasinate the ISIS leaders instead of a long protracted war.

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They are not much of a threat to the U.S, mabey a few small scale terroist attacks, but nothing much to do huge damage (worse then 9/11).

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Quote from: kuroman on August 17, 2014, 08:00:03 PM

Quote from: shawshankinmate37927 on August 16, 2014, 10:11:37 AM

ISIS is not a threat to the US because Americans are armed to the teeth. They might be able to pull off some terrorist attacks, but they wouldn't stand a chance of invading and establishing Islamic law here. If the average Iraqi had access to firearms and ammunition like we do in the USA, then ISIS wouldn't be an issue.

9/11 ..........
It's not about symetric war here, ISIS know well that they stand no chance on frontal a war, but more of a Taliban tactic

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Quote from: shawshankinmate37927 on August 16, 2014, 10:11:37 AM

ISIS is not a threat to the US because Americans are armed to the teeth. They might be able to pull off some terrorist attacks, but they wouldn't stand a chance of invading and establishing Islamic law here. If the average Iraqi had access to firearms and ammunition like we do in the USA, then ISIS wouldn't be an issue.

9/11 ..........
It's not about symetric war here, ISIS know well that they stand no chance on frontal a war, but more of a Taliban tactic

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For those interested in actual knowledge and facts about IS, VICE news has a great five part documentary about them.

https://news.vice.com/topic/islamic-state

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when IS is the answer for the long missing islamic reconnaissance, then it should be forced to get big. I guess its not and they have to wait another century. I wish them a good reform.

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Quote from: counter on August 17, 2014, 01:54:44 PM

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More potential for tax dollars to be wasted on bullets and bombs
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Producers need buyers to profit (or at least to survive). A world without war is a nightmare for weapon manufacturers. Governments earn good money through weapon companies taxes. I stated my opinion in general, not specific about this war.

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Quote from: zedicus on August 17, 2014, 01:51:35 PM

Quote from: zen2 on August 17, 2014, 11:30:24 AM

i think isis is USA ...USA want war Embarrassed

This could not be farther from the truth. President Obama is almost afraid to use the US military and has not used it once despite numerous situations needing it.

The ISIS is a terrorism group that has been killing people for their religious beliefs.

Can I ask what those "religious beliefs" are?

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Quote from: zen2 on August 17, 2014, 11:30:24 AM

i think isis is USA ...USA want war Embarrassed

ISIS is a threat because the Government will use them as an excuse to take away more Americans citizens rights. More potential for tax dollars to be wasted on bullets and bombs so the banks can make more profit. As long as where worried about terrorists where not worried about lack of transparency in the government, or atleast that is the case for the general public.

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Quote from: zen2 on August 17, 2014, 11:30:24 AM

i think isis is USA ...USA want war Embarrassed

This could not be farther from the truth. President Obama is almost afraid to use the US military and has not used it once despite numerous situations needing it.

The ISIS is a terrorism group that has been killing people for their religious beliefs.

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Quote from: zen2 on August 17, 2014, 11:30:24 AM

i think isis is USA ...USA want war Embarrassed

Doesnt surprise me, judging by the fact they invest insane portion of their wealth in military.

But acting like a world police will come to an end eventualy, and ill laugh hard when it happens.

They allways fight some remote wars, not fighting directly, and it has to come to an end eventualy.

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i think isis is USA ...USA want war Embarrassed

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Is ISIS dangerous to the US, if left alone yes it is and without a doubt. From an alternative perspective I'm starting to think that the reason why media and politics doesn't mention the murder of Muslims in Iraq by ISIS and arming Iraqi kurds instead of iraqi army is a communication stunt to avoid turn the fignt into a sect one, with over growing tension between Shiit and Sunnit because of Al Maliki bias....ect. Either that or there is a real problem bias problem in media and political scene

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Quote from: cryptasm on August 17, 2014, 07:56:21 AM

ISIS is no threat to the US whatsoever, they have no airforce, navy or long range ballisitic missiles.

Best if we send in UN peace keepers, last thing the people need there is Iraq war III.

I don't think so.
They don't have airforce, navy or long range ballistic missiles, it's true but neither Al Qaeda had this, and still they could attack America very successfully on September 11, 2001.
So, even if just small group of this dangerous terrorist organization will be able to enter USA, (maybe even USA citizens of Muslim faith) we will have real security problem there.

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