ISIS is no threat to the US whatsoever, they have no airforce, navy or long range ballisitic missiles.
Best if we send in UN peace keepers, last thing the people need there is Iraq war III.
Topic: How dangerous is Isis [Islamic State] to America? - page 2. (Read 10765 times)
Dude ISIS is just another Al Qaeda front group, and Al Qaeda is run by the West as controlled opposition to maintain fear and keep the agenda going in the Middle East and around the world. This is the worst kept secret in the War on Terror. You need to dig a little deeper than CNN man.
Same Boogyman was used to take over Afghanistan, Libya, United States(Patriot Act, National defense Authorization Act, Homeland Security, TSA), and now to get Iraq back under control because they don't like the way the wind if blowing there.
American politicians and intelligence experts have publically said that Isis or "Islamic state" as they are also known as....is the most violent and dangerous organization they have ever seen. They behead men, women and children that fall into their hands, kill prisoners in mass shootings and bury people alive. They have threaten thousands of people that if they don't convert to their extreme form of Islam they will be killed. They are a threat to the region for sure but are they a threat to America?
They have claimed that they will attack the American homeland and are already plotting jihad against us. The question is are they just blowing steam or can they pull off a serious attack such as al-Qaeda pulled off on 9/11?
Should we crush them in Syria and Iraq before they are strong enough to attack us? Should we just wait and continue to bomb them and see what develops? Should we try and put an international coalition together to go in there and wipe them out? Can they be wiped out? Do we really want to put boots on the ground there again? What do you think we should do and why?
Same Boogyman was used to take over Afghanistan, Libya, United States(Patriot Act, National defense Authorization Act, Homeland Security, TSA), and now to get Iraq back under control because they don't like the way the wind if blowing there.
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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration is grappling with how to bridge the gap between its increasingly dire assessment of the threat posed by the Islamic State group and the limited, defensive air campaign it has so far undertaken, which military officials acknowledge will not blunt the group's momentum.
For months, administration officials have been divided about the threat posed by the Islamic State as it seized parts of Syria and advanced on towns in Iraq. Now, amid new intelligence about its growing strength, a consensus is forming that the group presents an unacceptable terrorism risk to the United States and its allies.
At issue is whether President Barack Obama, elected on a platform of ending the Iraq war, will heed calls for a campaign to contain or destroy the Islamic State, an undertaking that could dominate U.S. foreign policy for the remainder of his term.
Proponents of doing so argue that the Islamic State must be stopped because it will destabilize America's allies in the region and eventually export terror to Europe and the U.S. Critics of the idea are urging the president just as strongly not to get sucked into another Middle East war, arguing that years of American micromanagement in that region have ended in tears.
Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said during a security forum in Aspen, Colorado, last month that the military is "preparing a strategy that has a series of options to present to our elected leaders on how we can initially contain, eventually disrupt, and finally defeat (the Islamic State group) over time."
Administration officials say the White House has been deeply divided at least since the start of 2014 over how much the Islamic State threatens Americans.
In January, when the militants overran the western Iraqi city of Fallujah, U.S. officials weighed whether to intervene. Since then, the number of Islamic State militants swelled from a few thousand to an estimated 15,000 die-hard members, according to two senior intelligence officials.
Many of the extremists are battle-hardened former members of Saddam Hussein's elite Republican Guard. The Islamic State, which has been disavowed by al-Qaida in a dispute over strategy, wants to strike a terrorist blow at the U.S. to assert its primacy in the jihadist movement, said Derek Harvey, a former Defense Intelligence Agency official who advises U.S. Central Command. "They have been planning do to this for some time," he said. "We just don't know when."
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-weighs-strategy-against-islamic-state-070946778--politics.htmlFor months, administration officials have been divided about the threat posed by the Islamic State as it seized parts of Syria and advanced on towns in Iraq. Now, amid new intelligence about its growing strength, a consensus is forming that the group presents an unacceptable terrorism risk to the United States and its allies.
At issue is whether President Barack Obama, elected on a platform of ending the Iraq war, will heed calls for a campaign to contain or destroy the Islamic State, an undertaking that could dominate U.S. foreign policy for the remainder of his term.
Proponents of doing so argue that the Islamic State must be stopped because it will destabilize America's allies in the region and eventually export terror to Europe and the U.S. Critics of the idea are urging the president just as strongly not to get sucked into another Middle East war, arguing that years of American micromanagement in that region have ended in tears.
Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said during a security forum in Aspen, Colorado, last month that the military is "preparing a strategy that has a series of options to present to our elected leaders on how we can initially contain, eventually disrupt, and finally defeat (the Islamic State group) over time."
Administration officials say the White House has been deeply divided at least since the start of 2014 over how much the Islamic State threatens Americans.
In January, when the militants overran the western Iraqi city of Fallujah, U.S. officials weighed whether to intervene. Since then, the number of Islamic State militants swelled from a few thousand to an estimated 15,000 die-hard members, according to two senior intelligence officials.
Many of the extremists are battle-hardened former members of Saddam Hussein's elite Republican Guard. The Islamic State, which has been disavowed by al-Qaida in a dispute over strategy, wants to strike a terrorist blow at the U.S. to assert its primacy in the jihadist movement, said Derek Harvey, a former Defense Intelligence Agency official who advises U.S. Central Command. "They have been planning do to this for some time," he said. "We just don't know when."
American politicians and intelligence experts have publically said that Isis or "Islamic state" as they are also known as....is the most violent and dangerous organization they have ever seen. They behead men, women and children that fall into their hands, kill prisoners in mass shootings and bury people alive. They have threaten thousands of people that if they don't convert to their extreme form of Islam they will be killed. They are a threat to the region for sure but are they a threat to America?
They have claimed that they will attack the American homeland and are already plotting jihad against us. The question is are they just blowing steam or can they pull off a serious attack such as al-Qaeda pulled off on 9/11?
Should we crush them in Syria and Iraq before they are strong enough to attack us? Should we just wait and continue to bomb them and see what develops? Should we try and put an international coalition together to go in there and wipe them out? Can they be wiped out? Do we really want to put boots on the ground there again? What do you think we should do and why?
As I have said, America's economy relies on its being in a state of perpetual war and finding people to be at war with is what the MIC do.The biggest danger to America comes from those who keep pushing it to endless war.
Other than it gaining control of a large swathe of the middle east and with it, a very large supply of oil, ISIS isn't much of a danger.
Of course this situation provides a wonderful opportunity for the MIC to ratchet up the fear card and thus push the US into fighting yet more endless wars which could well present a danger to America.
Of course this situation provides a wonderful opportunity for the MIC to ratchet up the fear card and thus push the US into fighting yet more endless wars which could well present a danger to America.
The best thing to have done was to never have gotten involved with the Middle East at all. Except for defending Israel on Israel's soil, we should have stayed out of any mid east country. They are nomads, barbaric, and have always fought one another. Brother against brother, uncle against nephew, tribe against tribe. Keep them out of Israel and ignore everything else. With no interference, they will continue to kill each other. Without a common enemy, they will never stick together. But with a common enemy, they will fight the enemy. Leave them alone and they will turn on each other.
Defending Israel is one of the main reasons for attacking us. That and the fact that the US is mainly Christian is all it takes for Islam to hate America.We could help them defend the Golan Heights, and let the Israelis use their air power.
I mean seriously dude, what weapons do you fear from ISIS on American soil that would be different from any other asshole terrorist?
But you are mostly right, America should mind its own business but is should not help Zionists in their slow-motion genocide of palestinians.
The US can't run away from this. They toppled Saddam Hussain and created room for the Islamists. Also, they helped to create the ISIS in Syria, which like a cancer spread further to Iraq.
The best thing to have done was to never have gotten involved with the Middle East at all. Except for defending Israel on Israel's soil, we should have stayed out of any mid east country. They are nomads, barbaric, and have always fought one another. Brother against brother, uncle against nephew, tribe against tribe. Keep them out of Israel and ignore everything else. With no interference, they will continue to kill each other. Without a common enemy, they will never stick together. But with a common enemy, they will fight the enemy. Leave them alone and they will turn on each other.
Defending Israel is one of the main reasons for attacking us. That and the fact that the US is mainly Christian is all it takes for Islam to hate America.We could help them defend the Golan Heights, and let the Israelis use their air power.
I mean seriously dude, what weapons do you fear from ISIS on American soil that would be different from any other asshole terrorist?
But you are mostly right, America should mind its own business but is should not help Zionists in their slow-motion genocide of palestinians.
The US can't run away from this. They toppled Saddam Hussain and created room for the Islamists. Also, they helped to create the ISIS in Syria, which like a cancer spread further to Iraq.
the issue is that we go into the middle east/north africa, exploit all their natural resources, and then end up making young kids orphans. that leads to a quest for vengeance and extremism. expecting our government not to meddle in the middle east is just futile - it's going to happen because rich people want to get richer. all i want is to stop leaving kids as orphans so the extremists can use it as a recruitment tool.
But you are mostly right, America should mind its own business but is should not help Zionists in their slow-motion genocide of palestinians.
The best thing to have done was to never have gotten involved with the Middle East at all. Except for defending Israel on Israel's soil, we should have stayed out of any mid east country. They are nomads, barbaric, and have always fought one another. Brother against brother, uncle against nephew, tribe against tribe. Keep them out of Israel and ignore everything else. With no interference, they will continue to kill each other. Without a common enemy, they will never stick together. But with a common enemy, they will fight the enemy. Leave them alone and they will turn on each other.
Defending Israel is one of the main reasons for attacking us. That and the fact that the US is mainly Christian is all it takes for Islam to hate America.We could help them defend the Golan Heights, and let the Israelis use their air power.
The best thing to have done was to never have gotten involved with the Middle East at all. Except for defending Israel on Israel's soil, we should have stayed out of any mid east country. They are nomads, barbaric, and have always fought one another. Brother against brother, uncle against nephew, tribe against tribe. Keep them out of Israel and ignore everything else. With no interference, they will continue to kill each other. Without a common enemy, they will never stick together. But with a common enemy, they will fight the enemy. Leave them alone and they will turn on each other.
Defending Israel is one of the main reasons for attacking us. That and the fact that the US is mainly Christian is all it takes for Islam to hate America.We could help them defend the Golan Heights, and let the Israelis use their air power.
The best thing to have done was to never have gotten involved with the Middle East at all. Except for defending Israel on Israel's soil, we should have stayed out of any mid east country. They are nomads, barbaric, and have always fought one another. Brother against brother, uncle against nephew, tribe against tribe. Keep them out of Israel and ignore everything else. With no interference, they will continue to kill each other. Without a common enemy, they will never stick together. But with a common enemy, they will fight the enemy. Leave them alone and they will turn on each other.
Defending Israel is one of the main reasons for attacking us. That and the fact that the US is mainly Christian is all it takes for Islam to hate America.
The best thing to have done was to never have gotten involved with the Middle East at all. Except for defending Israel on Israel's soil, we should have stayed out of any mid east country. They are nomads, barbaric, and have always fought one another. Brother against brother, uncle against nephew, tribe against tribe. Keep them out of Israel and ignore everything else. With no interference, they will continue to kill each other. Without a common enemy, they will never stick together. But with a common enemy, they will fight the enemy. Leave them alone and they will turn on each other.
To tell the truth, ISIS poses no threat at all to the US. However, the Americans have reasons to worry about the ISIS, as it is threatening some of their best allies such as Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Also, the American soldiers stationed overseas can be targeted by the ISIS.
ISIS is not a threat to the US because Americans are armed to the teeth. They might be able to pull off some terrorist attacks, but they wouldn't stand a chance of invading and establishing Islamic law here. If the average Iraqi had access to firearms and ammunition like we do in the USA, then ISIS wouldn't be an issue.
As one general pointed out, the prevailing view that these terrorists are incapable of striking America is based on the mistaken assumption of inferiority attached to Middle Eastern Muslims. We've had members here scoffing at the notion that they could strike here in the US, calling it 'paranoia', because they too think this collection of desert dwellers is inherently inferior.
But they are actually limited only by the quality of weaponry they can buy, and with an Islamic state rich in oil, they are no longer limited. With billions in oil dollars at their disposal, and with none being spent on social needs, they can afford to buy just about any weapon they want from cash-strapped countries willing to sell.
But they are actually limited only by the quality of weaponry they can buy, and with an Islamic state rich in oil, they are no longer limited. With billions in oil dollars at their disposal, and with none being spent on social needs, they can afford to buy just about any weapon they want from cash-strapped countries willing to sell.
Well so far ISIS are a military/religious faction of extremists in a part of the world where that seems more the norm than the exception.
That they pose a threat directly to the United States is exactly the threat any proposed terrorist poses and we have, since the Bush failure of 9/11, done a pretty good job at stopping the terrorists.
I would suggest they do not like us and will, like all Muslim extremists, try to harm us...with exactly the same effectiveness, no more no less.
As for their actions in the ME I think we offer humanitarian aid where possible, protect Americans and see if our allies care to step up.
That they pose a threat directly to the United States is exactly the threat any proposed terrorist poses and we have, since the Bush failure of 9/11, done a pretty good job at stopping the terrorists.
I would suggest they do not like us and will, like all Muslim extremists, try to harm us...with exactly the same effectiveness, no more no less.
As for their actions in the ME I think we offer humanitarian aid where possible, protect Americans and see if our allies care to step up.
'Murica created and funded ISIS in their desperate attempt to topple Bashar Al-assad from power.
They are not a threat to the homeland, really, as our army would crush them. Best they can hope for is a few half assed terrorist attacks, which thanks to all our NSA spying and patriot act laws should be totally preventable right?? LOL!
They are not a threat to the homeland, really, as our army would crush them. Best they can hope for is a few half assed terrorist attacks, which thanks to all our NSA spying and patriot act laws should be totally preventable right?? LOL!
I think that for USA the best strategy is to stop ISIS right now, in Iraq and Syria by empowering Kurds and local Iraq army with guns and everything they need to successfully fight with ISIS.
I really doubt that ISIS can come to USA, at least not as whole group or army.
Maybe they will succeed to brainwash some local Muslim in America for their goals but I don't think that a lot damage can come from such individuals (surely FBI already following such radical Muslims in the USA).
I really doubt that ISIS can come to USA, at least not as whole group or army.
Maybe they will succeed to brainwash some local Muslim in America for their goals but I don't think that a lot damage can come from such individuals (surely FBI already following such radical Muslims in the USA).
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