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Get a second hand laptop and install some type of linux with Tor bundles and full drive encryption. Then make sure to only use this computer with your nym, make sure to use very formal language in your writings and it's probbly enough to make it impossible for anyone to prove who is behind it.

Not *that* hard but obviously common drug dealers can often fail with stuff like this because they use burner phones and believe they are far brighter than they actually are. Statistics say that les than 0.05% of people with higher IQ ever get convicted of anything. About 6.5% of the general U.S. population has a felony conviction.

Satoshi appears to be thoughtful and well balanced even when compared to professors and PhDs that supposedly are around the 130 IQ range so it doesn't surprise me that he would pull it off.

Inventing Bitcoin is the U.S. *is* a crime, right?
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Clueless!
remember that "satoshi" is probably a group of people, so it's even harder to know who they are, and more easy to stay anon

If I was part of a group....it would be hard for me to stay anon with that much coin THEY HAVE NOT MOVED .. this lends me to
think that it is NOT a group of people....(think about all the supposed folk you know...could any group from 3-12 folk you know
keep a secret ..with this kind of $$$ and bragging rights involved?)

so me I think it is one guy.....and knowing humans the poor schmuck probably lost his keys to those addresses.....(hey if it was
me that is exactly how it would work ..make an earth shattering way to move money and keep value and tossed the passwords
out by accident....pretty much in line with my day to day life)

good things my goals are much lower...something like that I would have to be a monk and take a vow of poverty and vow of
silence  just to continue to cope....

er...what ...re-read the above....someone needs to check out some IP's from some monastery's imho .....that would explain much
on how he has not been found Smiley



i didn't say "part of a group" but a group, satoshi is just a code name, of a group of coders, this mean that it is more hard to track them, it's more easy to find 1 person than 3-4 or more
i think so Satoshi is just code name of project and nobody in real is Satoshi, so there is so many chances to have a group of coders behind this Satoshi project and this always stay anonymous.

I was starting to think that if it was a group, they've have one of those multisig "3etcetcetc..." wallets so that one person in the group couldn't run off with the funds.  But then I remembered that the multisig feature was added later, so Satoshi wouldn't have been able to take advantage of it in the early days.  If it is a group and that was a concern for them, they could have moved the funds to one of those newer addresses when they became available, but haven't done so.  I don't think that fact by itself rules out the possibility that it's a group, though.  Hard to say for certain, but I still get the general impression it's an individual.

my trouble with the group idea is ANY GROUP of people keeping such a secret w/o any bitcoin movement would just be too tempting to either 1) some bitcoin would have moved about or 2) someone would have blab'd by now about the group

then again if you are a 'anarchist' group and say next tuesday you decide to flush all of satoshi's coin in a massive sale to drive price down and cause chaos (hey it is what such a group would do) well then my point is dead wrong....

brings up another point...how much harm could satoshi do if he just wanted to 'throw a wrench' in his project and make a bonfire out of the works? (sheesh ..just scared myself)

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remember that "satoshi" is probably a group of people, so it's even harder to know who they are, and more easy to stay anon

If I was part of a group....it would be hard for me to stay anon with that much coin THEY HAVE NOT MOVED .. this lends me to
think that it is NOT a group of people....(think about all the supposed folk you know...could any group from 3-12 folk you know
keep a secret ..with this kind of $$$ and bragging rights involved?)

so me I think it is one guy.....and knowing humans the poor schmuck probably lost his keys to those addresses.....(hey if it was
me that is exactly how it would work ..make an earth shattering way to move money and keep value and tossed the passwords
out by accident....pretty much in line with my day to day life)

good things my goals are much lower...something like that I would have to be a monk and take a vow of poverty and vow of
silence  just to continue to cope....

er...what ...re-read the above....someone needs to check out some IP's from some monastery's imho .....that would explain much
on how he has not been found Smiley



i didn't say "part of a group" but a group, satoshi is just a code name, of a group of coders, this mean that it is more hard to track them, it's more easy to find 1 person than 3-4 or more
i think so Satoshi is just code name of project and nobody in real is Satoshi, so there is so many chances to have a group of coders behind this Satoshi project and this always stay anonymous.

I was starting to think that if it was a group, they've have one of those multisig "3etcetcetc..." wallets so that one person in the group couldn't run off with the funds.  But then I remembered that the multisig feature was added later, so Satoshi wouldn't have been able to take advantage of it in the early days.  If it is a group and that was a concern for them, they could have moved the funds to one of those newer addresses when they became available, but haven't done so.  I don't think that fact by itself rules out the possibility that it's a group, though.  Hard to say for certain, but I still get the general impression it's an individual.
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Staying anonymous was a very smart move Satoshi made. Hard decision probably.

Must be even harder keeping quiet and not bragging to your friends or family, I'd have thought there must be at least a few people who know satoshi's real identity.

Kudos to him/her/them for staying in the shadows, a lot of people would love to take credit for btc's creation.

legendary
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remember that "satoshi" is probably a group of people, so it's even harder to know who they are, and more easy to stay anon

If I was part of a group....it would be hard for me to stay anon with that much coin THEY HAVE NOT MOVED .. this lends me to
think that it is NOT a group of people....(think about all the supposed folk you know...could any group from 3-12 folk you know
keep a secret ..with this kind of $$$ and bragging rights involved?)

so me I think it is one guy.....and knowing humans the poor schmuck probably lost his keys to those addresses.....(hey if it was
me that is exactly how it would work ..make an earth shattering way to move money and keep value and tossed the passwords
out by accident....pretty much in line with my day to day life)

good things my goals are much lower...something like that I would have to be a monk and take a vow of poverty and vow of
silence  just to continue to cope....

er...what ...re-read the above....someone needs to check out some IP's from some monastery's imho .....that would explain much
on how he has not been found Smiley



i didn't say "part of a group" but a group, satoshi is just a code name, of a group of coders, this mean that it is more hard to track them, it's more easy to find 1 person than 3-4 or more
i think so Satoshi is just code name of project and nobody in real is Satoshi, so there is so many chances to have a group of coders behind this Satoshi project and this always stay anonymous.
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It is not difficult to remain anonymous on this forum if Theymos keeps our IP addresses secret. It is easy if Satoshi wanted to keep himself anonymous right from the beginning.
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Jahaha
Staying anonymous was a very smart move Satoshi made. Hard decision probably.
legendary
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remember that "satoshi" is probably a group of people, so it's even harder to know who they are, and more easy to stay anon

If I was part of a group....it would be hard for me to stay anon with that much coin THEY HAVE NOT MOVED .. this lends me to
think that it is NOT a group of people....(think about all the supposed folk you know...could any group from 3-12 folk you know
keep a secret ..with this kind of $$$ and bragging rights involved?)

so me I think it is one guy.....and knowing humans the poor schmuck probably lost his keys to those addresses.....(hey if it was
me that is exactly how it would work ..make an earth shattering way to move money and keep value and tossed the passwords
out by accident....pretty much in line with my day to day life)

good things my goals are much lower...something like that I would have to be a monk and take a vow of poverty and vow of
silence  just to continue to cope....

er...what ...re-read the above....someone needs to check out some IP's from some monastery's imho .....that would explain much
on how he has not been found Smiley



i didn't say "part of a group" but a group, satoshi is just a code name, of a group of coders, this mean that it is more hard to track them, it's more easy to find 1 person than 3-4 or more
copper member
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hee-ho.
Because he left before Bitcoin got real attention. Obviously not posting personal info is important if you want stay in privacy.

exactly. I don't know why people failed to understand this. I am sure that he left as soon as he saw that bitcoin's popularity was raising rapidly.
Satoshi is smart, I'm sure he knows that a decentralized currency can be used for both good and bad things too.
legendary
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Satoshi could be OP trolling us.  Grin
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Because he left before Bitcoin got real attention. Obviously not posting personal info is important if you want stay in privacy.
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Hi Satoshi. How you doin'?
legendary
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In Satoshi I Trust
Because hes a made up character used to create a mythology to scam gullible people into buying worthless funbux for real money
LOL okay, I think you forgot that Satoshi never sold any Bitcoin and when he made it, it was an experiment not meant to be a money maker, it wasn't even worth a penny a coin at the start!

For all you know.  Satoshi could be a group of opportunists that saw a bunch of gullible occupy types ready to buy into anything that played on their hatred of bankers

Easier to believe he was a make believe avatar if no traces of him anywhere on internet
Okay but your theory falls apart at the Billion USD worth of coins at the ATH price that never moved.

Maybe the keys were lost because at this time they never thought anyone would actually pay real money
I feel like that's quite a stretch, you're telling me you believe satoshi was a group making a crypto for a scam and when the scam actually worked and they were worth a billion dollars they had lost the keys because they never thought it would work?

That was his big masterplan  Grin

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but i think he is still here these days...  Smiley
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Most people on this forum are anonymous to some degree or like to hide their personal deets. I don't think it would be that hard if from the start you wish to remain 100% anon with the right connections (tor/VPNs etc), but I suppose it is easy to slip up somewhere (like DPR) but obviously he hasn't so far.
legendary
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I've never seen a scam backed by mathematics and cryptography, to be honest.
True, this is real thing
But anyways, satoshi can be NSA, or any other group of people. However it doesn't change a thing, bitcoin is real Smiley
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Clueless!
remember that "satoshi" is probably a group of people, so it's even harder to know who they are, and more easy to stay anon

If I was part of a group....it would be hard for me to stay anon with that much coin THEY HAVE NOT MOVED .. this lends me to
think that it is NOT a group of people....(think about all the supposed folk you know...could any group from 3-12 folk you know
keep a secret ..with this kind of $$$ and bragging rights involved?)

so me I think it is one guy.....and knowing humans the poor schmuck probably lost his keys to those addresses.....(hey if it was
me that is exactly how it would work ..make an earth shattering way to move money and keep value and tossed the passwords
out by accident....pretty much in line with my day to day life)

good things my goals are much lower...something like that I would have to be a monk and take a vow of poverty and vow of
silence  just to continue to cope....

er...what ...re-read the above....someone needs to check out some IP's from some monastery's imho .....that would explain much
on how he has not been found Smiley

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Because hes a made up character used to create a mythology to scam gullible people into buying worthless funbux for real money
LOL okay, I think you forgot that Satoshi never sold any Bitcoin and when he made it, it was an experiment not meant to be a money maker, it wasn't even worth a penny a coin at the start!

For all you know.  Satoshi could be a group of opportunists that saw a bunch of gullible occupy types ready to buy into anything that played on their hatred of bankers

Easier to believe he was a make believe avatar if no traces of him anywhere on internet
Okay but your theory falls apart at the Billion USD worth of coins at the ATH price that never moved.

Maybe the keys were lost because at this time they never thought anyone would actually pay real money
I feel like that's quite a stretch, you're telling me you believe satoshi was a group making a crypto for a scam and when the scam actually worked and they were worth a billion dollars they had lost the keys because they never thought it would work?
legendary
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remember that "satoshi" is probably a group of people, so it's even harder to know who they are, and more easy to stay anon
hero member
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A combination of a VPN and TOR? I think he left at the right time. If he stayed active for longer, it would have been risky (to his identity).
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I've never seen a scam backed by mathematics and cryptography, to be honest.
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