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hero member
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June 30, 2016, 08:00:08 AM
#34
We do not need any owner for bitcoin we all are the owners of bitcoin so no one need to prove that he is the Satoshi, and if someone want to be Satoshi and want to prove it then they will have to at least one bitcoin to every person of the world. Now can you proof?
legendary
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June 30, 2016, 07:15:08 AM
#33
ownership can be taken.

Consider: The only way you will know me being me, is when you can see me and point at me (or in other words you would have had to be there, the second when it began until its 1st release), the 2nd best would be an army of witnesses that you trust
(It is just an example, not claiming any weird)
It is not the only key that requires verification of yourself, I think it will require more valid proof and it will really cost you time if you want to prove that you're satoshi.

Strong proof is a must so we can really say he is satoshi because anyone can claim that they are satoshi and satoshi's identity is very mysterious maybe it contributed a littles success of bitcoins success, and also many claimants that they say they are satoshi some others proofed that they are not and i really think the real satoshi wont reveal himself he wants to remain anonymous just what like hes coin design its anonymous.
legendary
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June 30, 2016, 07:08:59 AM
#32
It's impossible to prove, its too late, too much noise so the keys could have been stolen from satoshi. You could not prove that you aren't a theft that got satoshi's coin under his control. It's impossible to prove that you wrote the bitcoin code yourself. It's over, just buy and hold and enjoy being rich in 2026.
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June 30, 2016, 06:44:32 AM
#31
ownership can be taken.

Consider: The only way you will know me being me, is when you can see me and point at me (or in other words you would have had to be there, the second when it began until its 1st release), the 2nd best would be an army of witnesses that you trust
(It is just an example, not claiming any weird)
It is not the only key that requires verification of yourself, I think it will require more valid proof and it will really cost you time if you want to prove that you're satoshi.
newbie
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June 30, 2016, 06:20:24 AM
#30
ownership can be taken.

Consider: The only way you will know me being me, is when you can see me and point at me (or in other words you would have had to be there, the second when it began until its 1st release), the 2nd best would be an army of witnesses that you trust
(It is just an example, not claiming any weird)
legendary
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June 30, 2016, 06:17:04 AM
#29
a key is not a person

A key proves ownership
newbie
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June 30, 2016, 06:14:43 AM
#28
a key is not a person
legendary
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June 30, 2016, 06:13:52 AM
#27
Not to be rude or anything but like what is always said...

PGP or GTFO

Satoshi may or may not have contacted us since his last proven communication but we won't know until a key proving his identity is provided.
newbie
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June 30, 2016, 06:10:00 AM
#26
Of course but I said the video should be proven to be made before announcing it to the public, e.g. from 2007. And how well, I dont know Cheesy But I think you can get pretty far with video forensics. So stuff visible in the background and so on. Like I said can still be doubted, but could be very convincing depending what is in it.
legendary
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All I know is that I know nothing.
June 30, 2016, 06:06:56 AM
#25
The closest I guess would be a video of him/them talking about specific bitcoin details that can be verified to have been made before making it public and can be proven not to be false of course.

But there would still be doubt

i don't think such details exist!

bitcoin is an opensource project so anybody can know every single detail about it and you can even see the history of commits and changes so all the details are known to the public.
newbie
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June 30, 2016, 06:04:00 AM
#24
The closest I guess would be a video of him/them talking about specific bitcoin details that can be verified to have been made before making it public and can be proven not to be false of course.

But there would still be doubt
legendary
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June 30, 2016, 05:57:19 AM
#23
Well, if you really wanted to prove you were Satoshi Nakamoto but you didn't have the keys with which to sign a message, then you could just do another build. You would have to create a more scalable system and a more efficient block chain ledger which implements a fractal based data structure. And, of course, you would have to utilize all the information extrapolated from the data collected during the first trial of the bloody experiment to achieve that task.  Duh!
legendary
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June 30, 2016, 05:43:27 AM
#22
Its easy actually, you just need to sign a message from the address holding that 1.000.000 bitcoins you are holding supposedly but since you are asking here, I guess you are not Satoshi and Gavin and Craig Wright are also not Satoshi and the latter one just ashamed himself with his latest lie that he was indeed satoshi.

Unless there is no signed message from the address holding 1 mln coins no one will believe anyone claiming he/she is satoshi. A simple proof can make him reveal his identity but since he has not opted to reveal himself so far, I think he will like to stay that way anonymous.

You seriously think Satoshi's coins are all put into a single wallet containing 1,000,000BTC? He was mining and receiving his 50BTC block rewards on different addresses. Which basically means that the majority of his wealth in Bitcoin sits in many many thousands of wallets containing 50BTC each.
The sad thing is that he may not even be able to convert or use his coins. Imagine if tomorrow, one of the genesis addresses spends some coins. It would mean that 1'000'000 coins were injected into the bitcoin ecosystem. The price would crash since much more bitcoins are available (they were considered as lost).

If satoshi spents some money, he might create one of the biggest crisis in the bitcoin ecosystem.

There's no reason bitcoin price could crash unless Satoshi or whoever has the private key dump 1 million bitcoin to exchange.
The real reason price could crash because people is afraid with Satoshi and some people share FUD Roll Eyes

yeah the only reason that can cause bitcoin price to crash is if satoshi moves those coins and not simply moving, selling them which can cause panic.

but important thing is that this crash would only be temporary and price would soon come back from it even if it was big.
hero member
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June 30, 2016, 05:11:32 AM
#21
you need more than sign message,more unique proof,i think its complicated how to satoshi nakamoto proff that he is the original satoshi or bitcoin creator,we already have some fake satoshi,its why original satoshi nakamoto seems not important anymore.
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June 30, 2016, 04:01:29 AM
#20
i thinkno onecan prove satoshi nakamoto. because i think that the real people behind him will not use his real name for bitcoin. and that alias is impossible to prove that yours. hahhaa
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June 30, 2016, 03:57:24 AM
#19
Its easy actually, you just need to sign a message from the address holding that 1.000.000 bitcoins you are holding supposedly but since you are asking here, I guess you are not Satoshi and Gavin and Craig Wright are also not Satoshi and the latter one just ashamed himself with his latest lie that he was indeed satoshi.

Unless there is no signed message from the address holding 1 mln coins no one will believe anyone claiming he/she is satoshi. A simple proof can make him reveal his identity but since he has not opted to reveal himself so far, I think he will like to stay that way anonymous.

You seriously think Satoshi's coins are all put into a single wallet containing 1,000,000BTC? He was mining and receiving his 50BTC block rewards on different addresses. Which basically means that the majority of his wealth in Bitcoin sits in many many thousands of wallets containing 50BTC each.
The sad thing is that he may not even be able to convert or use his coins. Imagine if tomorrow, one of the genesis addresses spends some coins. It would mean that 1'000'000 coins were injected into the bitcoin ecosystem. The price would crash since much more bitcoins are available (they were considered as lost).

If satoshi spents some money, he might create one of the biggest crisis in the bitcoin ecosystem.
legendary
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June 30, 2016, 03:29:09 AM
#18
Its easy actually, you just need to sign a message from the address holding that 1.000.000 bitcoins you are holding supposedly but since you are asking here, I guess you are not Satoshi and Gavin and Craig Wright are also not Satoshi and the latter one just ashamed himself with his latest lie that he was indeed satoshi.

Unless there is no signed message from the address holding 1 mln coins no one will believe anyone claiming he/she is satoshi. A simple proof can make him reveal his identity but since he has not opted to reveal himself so far, I think he will like to stay that way anonymous.

You seriously think Satoshi's coins are all put into a single wallet containing 1,000,000BTC? He was mining and receiving his 50BTC block rewards on different addresses. Which basically means that the majority of his wealth in Bitcoin sits in many many thousands of wallets containing 50BTC each.
legendary
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June 30, 2016, 02:01:13 AM
#17
If I were Satoshi and I somehow misplaced my credentials (e.g. privkey to the first live bitcoin address, pgp key, etc.) and I wanted to claim the "satoshi" account on the forum, how do I prove that I'm Satoshi?

if you were indeed satoshi and have created something like bitcoin the first thing you would do is to not misplace your credentials and make backups from your code/pgp key/wallet/etc this is the first step any computer expert would do. so proving is as easy and signing a message.

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The forum account claim was only an example. As a general question, how do I prove I'm Satoshi if I lost/misplaced my credentials? For example: I could have burned them a few years ago over fears that I might be apprehended/for plausible deniability.

I don't understand what you mean by "forum account claim" are you taking about satoshi account on bitcointalk?!!
and as for the rest, as I said the first step is to keep backups from your important information.
copper member
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June 30, 2016, 01:53:44 AM
#16
I think your first step would be to stop spamming the forum for dust with useless posts wearing your signature.

Your second step is to stop creating ridiculous topics such as this one.

I am not sure what your third step would be, but I am pretty sure that satoshi does not care about his forum account, so it is a moot point.
legendary
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June 30, 2016, 01:33:39 AM
#15
This thread got me thinking: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/serious-question-nullc-are-you-satoshi-1530663

If I were Satoshi and I somehow misplaced my credentials (e.g. privkey to the first live bitcoin address, pgp key, etc.) and I wanted to claim the "satoshi" account on the forum, how do I prove that I'm Satoshi?

The forum account claim was only an example. As a general question, how do I prove I'm Satoshi if I lost/misplaced my credentials? For example: I could have burned them a few years ago over fears that I might be apprehended/for plausible deniability.

The credentials is not what make someone mr satoshi. FOr you to be known as mr. satoshi you must present how bitcoin system was made or you should know how to increase the number of bitcoins supply in an instant. If you can reprogram or increase the bitcoin supply without mining only thru reconfiguration then thats the time that people will acknowledge you as mr satoshi.

what you replied is correct i agree with you if he is Mr.Satoshi then he should have full knowledge of the bitcoin system as he is the only person who created this theory and should be knowing how to recreate and change the function. If he is not able to clarify this details and cannot tell the theory properly then their is not use of him to expect others to believe him as Mr.Satoshi.
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