How Do You Feel About This New System?? - page 6.

NavI_027

full member

Activity: 1232

Merit: 186

I like theymos' purpose for implementing this kind of new system and I think this will be very effective in the long run because each one of us are now forced to make good quality posts instead of unsubstantial one, this will definitely result to a better environment here in the forum.

But honestly, I have a concern. I'm a little bit worried knowing the fact that I will not rank even though we assume that I already meet/exceed the minimum activities required. We can conclude that rank ups will now depend on merits and I'm very sad about it because becoming a Sr. Member seems so far for me to reach.

Anyway, this system undergone a lot of process before implemented so who am I to question it? I still would love to embrace this new system since its advantages still outnumbered the disadvantages.

hilariousetc

legendary

Activity: 2968

Merit: 3061

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Quote from: Evilish on February 03, 2018, 02:29:18 AM

I don't care about activity points, ranks, or these new merits points to be honest. I don't limit my judgment on the quality of a member on these artificially created merits. All that matters to me is the quality of your posts.

But to a sig spammer it's the opposite. They don't care about quality of posts, just hitting the highest rank they can as fast as they can with the lowest amount of effort possible. That's why merit should hopefully change this culture because making shitposts will get you nowhere pretty fast.

Quote from: nullius on February 03, 2018, 02:13:03 PM

Quote from: athanz88 on January 25, 2018, 11:38:11 AM

Feel free to comment about it guys !

Most people seem to be ignoring the main and positive purpose of the merit system: It gives appreciation and encouragement to good posters.

The whiners are exactly the ones who should go away.

Signed,

A user who ranked up from Jr. Member to Member on 30 January, and thus started with zero merit.

You're making great posts and people like you will have no issue in 'ranking' up. It's just the lazies who got used to being able to fly through ranks just by posting the most generic of shitposts that are going to have great problems. If only they could be bothered putting the same amount of effort they do for the whining about the merit system into the regular posts they'd be no issue at all.

Skuylaruy

jr. member

Activity: 68

Merit: 1

Quote from: prp101 on January 25, 2018, 12:18:05 PM

Yup, don't like it, so now you depend on other people to rank up on this forum, that's just not fair.
You could post 100 quality posts and not to receive single merit, and you could post 1 shitpost and get 100 merits.
So yea, it's not really thought through system, and therefore not fair at all...

Its unfair!but for the sake of promoting quality posting and provide order for the future campaign i agreed..

athanz88

sr. member

Activity: 476

Merit: 359

Quote from: nullius on February 03, 2018, 02:13:03 PM

Quote from: athanz88 on January 25, 2018, 11:38:11 AM

Feel free to comment about it guys !

Most people seem to be ignoring the main and positive purpose of the merit system: It gives appreciation and encouragement to good posters.

The whiners are exactly the ones who should go away.

Signed,

A user who ranked up from Jr. Member to Member on 30 January, and thus started with zero merit.

Yeah, and most of them people is at the "low member ranks" category according to the statistic i gathered. But Some of it (57%, 16 people i count on this thread) are happy with the system because they agree with the system which can make a better forum and encourage good posters.
There is a better option for the whiners rather than leaving, which is to realize that this is the good system and should be embraced by him/her and start learning and doing something good for the better oh him/her.

By the way, congratz man, 187 merits wow, thats a good achievement.

nullius

copper member

Activity: 630

Merit: 2614

If you don’t do PGP, you don’t do crypto!

Quote from: athanz88 on January 25, 2018, 11:38:11 AM

Feel free to comment about it guys !

Most people seem to be ignoring the main and positive purpose of the merit system: It gives appreciation and encouragement to good posters.

The whiners are exactly the ones who should go away.

Signed,

A user who ranked up from Jr. Member to Member on 30 January, and thus started with zero merit.

athanz88

sr. member

Activity: 476

Merit: 359

Quote from: akmittal on February 03, 2018, 09:57:55 AM

Merit system is good but gaining merit for higher rank is not justified. Because most of us not only learn every thing about crypto from Bitcointalk also learn what to write and how to write about crypto from Bitcointalk. Now we are thinking the new comers will come on Bitcointalk after learn everything about crypto and must write high quality post.
This is not justified for newcomers. There is already provision on Bitcointalk for deleting irrelevant and spam post and block the member after some warning.
Merit system is good but linking for higher rank is not justified.

Well from my data which i gathered from this thread, there are some low rank members ( newbie, jr. member, and member) that is happy with merit system and not afraid to compete with others. If some of them (57%) can say they are happy, then i guess they wont leave the forum, but unfortunately some other (43%) do not happy about them and there is a chance that they will leave the forum. But when the system running properly, i guess they wont even talk about it in the future how they trash this system in the early time of the implementation.

akmittal

full member

Activity: 252

Merit: 102

Merit system is good but gaining merit for higher rank is not justified. Because most of us not only learn every thing about crypto from Bitcointalk also learn what to write and how to write about crypto from Bitcointalk. Now we are thinking the new comers will come on Bitcointalk after learn everything about crypto and must write high quality post.
This is not justified for newcomers. There is already provision on Bitcointalk for deleting irrelevant and spam post and block the member after some warning.
Merit system is good but linking for higher rank is not justified.

athanz88

sr. member

Activity: 476

Merit: 359

Quote from: TMAN on February 03, 2018, 02:23:23 AM

OP guess I owe you an apology, turns out that your work is decent even if your way of gathering the data needs some work..

So I am sorry for jumping the gun and assuming the worst, but it seems you are the exception to the rule.

Thanks TMAN, it is okay, i didnt take anything from what you ve said before, if i did, maybe i wont gather this data. I just want to look about this merit point from the perspective of the user's feeling. Just want to see how they feel about it in the early and how they feel about it later after a few months. So later i can make some conclusion again for the future.

And maybe you can invite your friends to look at the statistic and give comment or suggestion.

Evilish

hero member

Activity: 882

Merit: 563

Bitcoin to the moon!

I don't care about activity points, ranks, or these new merits points to be honest. I don't limit my judgment on the quality of a member on these artificially created merits. All that matters to me is the quality of your posts.

TMAN

legendary

Activity: 1414

Merit: 1808

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OP guess I owe you an apology, turns out that your work is decent even if your way of gathering the data needs some work..

So I am sorry for jumping the gun and assuming the worst, but it seems you are the exception to the rule.

lukyanli

jr. member

Activity: 40

Merit: 3

I am very new to this forum so I cannot say much about the new change. I think with time everyone will get used to this new system.

samsuarst

newbie

Activity: 322

Merit: 0

Quote from: athanz88 on January 25, 2018, 11:38:11 AM

Hello People of Bitcointalk Forum. Greetings, my name is athanz88.

With the implementation of new system called "Merit Point System" today, there are lot of emotions going around the forum right now, especially in the meta section.

You can find about it more at :

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-new-rank-requirements-2818350

As I'm not going to discuss about it here (because the discussion is happening on the thread i mentioned at the upper line), I want to propose a poll to a simple question, which is

How Do You Feel About The Merit Point System???

What I'm asking here is only your emotion about this new system (for the poll) and 1 line of your best reason why do you feel that way. Without any discussion in this thread.
I made this poll because it is good to know the statistic for new system as it can be used to do many things. You know, data, and the main thing is because there is no poll in the original thread.

So, please kindly do this polling.

Best regards, athanz88.

P.S : this poll and the statistic gathered is only for a demographic data and will not be used as a tool to object/deny the new implemented system. In fact, im happy with this new system. If this is wrong, please just kindly tell me to delete or lock this topic, and dont bash me Sad

Sistem baru sistem yang banyak di diskusikan banyak hal dalam meningkatkan peringkat ke jenjang selanjutnya, agar lebih jeli lagi dalam kualitas posting..

gilangIDR

legendary

Activity: 1526

Merit: 1001

Quote from: MJK_Anfaenger on February 01, 2018, 04:57:41 PM

I think the new system is alright. I mean I see the point. I'm new to this forum and even I noticed the two-line posts in broken English some users spam all over the place for the sake of getting their activity count up or because of ICOs. I hope it reduces the amount of pointless chatter and encourages people to put some thought into their posts. That being said it's definitely true that it's exponentially harder for new users to get merit than for established users but I suspect there's little else you can do to separate the wheat from the chaff.

At some point in my observation that the quality of posts is getting better. Yes we are all for getting merit, this is great for improving the quality of chat in forums. In the short term this all looks good and we are currently just waiting for what happens in the long term going forward. I'm sure this will have a major impact on the understanding of bitcoin and cryptocurrency.

davidmike04

newbie

Activity: 163

Merit: 0

I really dislike this new system, because who really determines a shitpost? what might be a shitpost to one person might not be the same to another, i was more comfortable with the banning of accounts when a user spams the forum, This merit system to me is flawed really, no offence Moderator. But is there no better way to go about dealing with spammers than this new merit system?

MJK_Anfaenger

member

Activity: 196

Merit: 46

I think the new system is alright. I mean I see the point. I'm new to this forum and even I noticed the two-line posts in broken English some users spam all over the place for the sake of getting their activity count up or because of ICOs. I hope it reduces the amount of pointless chatter and encourages people to put some thought into their posts. That being said it's definitely true that it's exponentially harder for new users to get merit than for established users but I suspect there's little else you can do to separate the wheat from the chaff.

WhaleSlayer

full member

Activity: 229

Merit: 100

Quote from: AmazingDynamo on January 27, 2018, 02:01:12 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 26, 2018, 03:52:46 PM

I am new here but i think i have come to this forum at a right time. A new system is being in place and i hope it will be easy for me to achieve all the higher ranks if i just focus on one thing which is Quality posting and forget about everything.

i guess it is hard for a newbie specially those jr member to rank up because people will not be able to rank up unless someone will give them a merit that they need most , and i guess if someone dont know a person they dont give a merit to him even that person is a quality poster .

Wrong. Newbies become Juniors with no need of merits. And Juniors need only 10 merits (versus 60 activity) to become Members. The problem begins with Members who need 100 merits (versus 120 activity) to become Full Members, and escalates with Full members ho need 250 merits (versus 240 activity) to become senior Members, and so on. Since it is easier to rise your activity than your merits, the whole ranking up process will be considerably slowed down. Which probably is not such a bad thing, especially as the bad posters will never rank up at all, so in the whole the landscape of the forum should improve in time.

al1n

member

Activity: 154

Merit: 29

Quote from: jeluhtajem on February 01, 2018, 11:08:34 AM

Merit system is very useful to reduce spammers
But the current merit system is not clear, because it is only suitable for people who know each other, they benefit each other
Many good writings are not rewarded
If I can propose, the merit system, should be direct from the moderator

My thought exactly. If you are on your own (not in a group) the chances for your post to get any merit are close to 0.
If you are in a group (of friends, acquaintances etc) then you will get merit points for most of your posts, regardless of their usefulness.
If you have a horde of clones ... well ... then it is even easier Cheesy

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However i don't think a moderator can do this job alone. There are simply too many posts.

jeluhtajem

member

Activity: 252

Merit: 10

Merit system is very useful to reduce spammers
But the current merit system is not clear, because it is only suitable for people who know each other, they benefit each other
Many good writings are not rewarded
If I can propose, the merit system, should be direct from the moderator

IsuruMaduranga

jr. member

Activity: 182

Merit: 7

Block chain enthusiast

Quote from: athanz88 on January 30, 2018, 12:28:01 PM

Quote from: IsuruMaduranga on January 30, 2018, 12:12:36 PM

I am a newbie and i am not a spammer.. Sad

I always try to help people with my current cryptocurrency knowledge.. But it is very hard to get merits Undecided

I want only two more to be a junior member. I am disappointed about merit system.. Yes you should ban or limit spammers but not in this way Undecided

Keep going on the good work and the merits will come to you. It is only 1 week since the system was implemented, so give it a time. In the span time, you need to learn much more, learn English, and other things needed.
If you want to gain merits, you can also try it here, it is a thread which has lists of thread that giving out merits if you do some good post. Hope you can achieve it.

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-of-threads-giving-away-merit-points-for-quality-posts-2832127

Meanwhile, I already got 100 votes. I will make some infographic and data concluded from this thread. So I am locking the poll for now. Thanks guys !

Thank you for the advice

I'll keep up the good work and see what happens

IsuruMaduranga

jr. member

Activity: 182

Merit: 7

Block chain enthusiast

Quote from: IsuruMaduranga on January 30, 2018, 12:12:36 PM

I am a newbie and i am not a spammer.. Sad

I always try to help people with my current cryptocurrency knowledge.. But it is very hard to get merits Undecided

I want only two more to be a junior member. I am disappointed about merit system.. Yes you should ban or limit spammers but not in this way Undecided

I had miss understood the merit system and thought ranks are increased based only on merit now.. But i came to know both activity and merit matters.

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