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Well, BTCGosu is different... you should check out why by yourself! Smiley

You saw 1xBet/1xBit here maybe: Blacklisted Bitcoin Casinos! With the explanation of why it's blacklisted, and an image from the forum where you can see those red tags...
The older the business is the more authentic it is. But there are various ways to check to the authenticity - the most talked about is reviews, Customer support and quick response - the RTP and the withdrawal process.
legendary
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When I gave up was one one review site rated 1xbit so high. It was then I became convinced about the biaseness and shady deals that are done behind the scene to deceive us.

Review sites are being used as a marketing tool by casino owners, as we know, newbies always use review websites before using that. And when they sees good ratings then people agrees to use the website, this is the reason why scam like 1xbit are still in the market. Because they keep their good rating on the review website and newbies visit their website to gamble, and then fall into scam.

I personally do not trust any review website and always look at  forum profile to make sure they have no negative feedbacks




When it comes to review sites then the places i do only trust is

Btcgosu
GamblingBro
and the rest are shit and biased.....
On Btcgosu I saw some time ago (week or two) that they had listed 1xbit with a good rating (probably 75-100), but now i can't find it on searching. have they removed it? Or I just failed to find it out

Well, BTCGosu is different... you should check out why by yourself! Smiley

You saw 1xBet/1xBit here maybe: Blacklisted Bitcoin Casinos! With the explanation of why it's blacklisted, and an image from the forum where you can see those red tags...
legendary
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I fully understand your point of view and support it.
In the same way of using bitcointalk forum to inquire about the reliability of a particular casino, we can also inquire about trusted rating sites. I did a quick search for reviews of some of the sites listing gambling platforms and casinos on the Bitcointalk forum and couldn't find anything significant.
This is a good idea for a topic. I will post later here in this section and maybe it will be reference for others as well .

You mean you want to gather all good-quality reviews written here on bitcointalk in one place? That's a great idea, actually. It would be nice to have such thread on the forum. Also, I think people would be adding the reviews you missed, and discussing the reviews you posted. As I said, great idea, mate.

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I think mostly they post dubious sites for referral links. I do not think that such reviewers are often paid for "job". We can see paid reviews on major review sites, but their review mostly shows small problems to increase the credibility of the reviewer and the casino. It's better to look here for what the players are saying.

Yes, exactly. The players, the real users of the site, not people who just received money for writing a review. A review like that can hardly be objective.
legendary
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You are right bro, apart from all these things that we can see both in the reputation as well as in the support, it is also good to check if there is a way of reviews, here in the forum there are many users who are casino reviewers, usually a quick trick It is to see if the casino has a thread with enough history, many pages, but in the same way you have to read, because in some cases the casinos that have a lot of history usually come to an end, but it is something that you can take into account when you are here in the forum, you can also make a quick review about their withdrawals, minimum amount, how are their welcome bonuses, if they are active with contests, if there is enough traffic, all that is good to check.


All can be read when you are actively doing your research before playing, the good catch here is to see those reviews regarding to the cases that happen and how the house take good care of it, those are also a good sign that the team is not going to let any reported problem and they are open, some might give you additional perks if the house find it out that it was their internal mistake.

But yes, reviews from other members, especially those who are actively using the platform, is also can be used as basis

when you are still in the stage of searching for a good sport book or casino to play your gambling activity.
legendary
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When it comes to review sites then the places i do only trust is

Btcgosu
GamblingBro
and the rest are shit and biased.....
On Btcgosu I saw some time ago (week or two) that they had listed 1xbit with a good rating (probably 75-100), but now i can't find it on searching. have they removed it? Or I just failed to find it out

I havent seen it on the time had read up or visit the site back in the past or simply i just missed it out or it wasnt really there on the first place?
Its impossible that it would be placed into something trusted considering the owner of this site itself is a long time member which do knows on whats happening around
into this forum.

But as expected this one is really highly updated.
You could see that its been placed on blacklist.
https://www.btcgosu.com/bitcoin-casino-blacklist/

I think he moved it about a week ago, maybe less. I like to check out all the sites.
hero member
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When it comes to review sites then the places i do only trust is

Btcgosu
GamblingBro
and the rest are shit and biased.....
On Btcgosu I saw some time ago (week or two) that they had listed 1xbit with a good rating (probably 75-100), but now i can't find it on searching. have they removed it? Or I just failed to find it out

I havent seen it on the time had read up or visit the site back in the past or simply i just missed it out or it wasnt really there on the first place?
Its impossible that it would be placed into something trusted considering the owner of this site itself is a long time member which do knows on whats happening around
into this forum.

But as expected this one is really highly updated.
You could see that its been placed on blacklist.
https://www.btcgosu.com/bitcoin-casino-blacklist/
legendary
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A lot of the problems become from the culture of having reviews done by professionals and even people who are incentivised in a perverse way to leave good reviews. Even youtubers and other influencers have a price and they certainly can make anything look very good or even try to appear very objective while actually not giving a correct impression.

Best advice: use this forum for it.

And in exchange they will be tarnishing the brand that they've spent countless of hours on just to put out some reviews for a platform that is not even half-good. I'd say that's a pretty good deal for us who are fed with these fake reviews as we will be witnessing the downfall of these brands together with the platform that they paid in order to make themselves look good.

I agree that it is somehow best to use this forum as a reference before making that first deposit on a platform because there is a huge chance that the platform that you're wanting to play into already has a review dedicated here in the gambling section (albeit the amount of mess that the section has).
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Illegal bookmaker's offices may not pay out winnings, and their sites can be blocked anytime.
The state of being legal or illegal of an online sportsbook depends on the player's region. Every gambling platform has a tendency to not pay your winnings out. This is most commonly observed on bookmaking businesses which are not regulated by any government. So if I were to be asked, I'll choose those regulated gambling sites over unregulated. There might be some exception sometimes though.
legendary
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Of course, nothing is perfect. But, as you said it yourself, this forum is a good place to get reliable info about a sportsbook. Yes, there are sites doing honest reviews, but most websites with casino ratings hardly can be trusted. What I've noticed is that they can include 3-4 really good sites in their top 10, and then put on the 2nd, or even on the first place, the shady site that paid them, and since there's no forum there, you won't see any objections.
I think mostly they post dubious sites for referral links. I do not think that such reviewers are often paid for "job". We can see paid reviews on major review sites, but their review mostly shows small problems to increase the credibility of the reviewer and the casino. It's better to look here for what the players are saying.
You made a nice and true statement. The paid review sites are into business and making money and therefore they are somethings bent to be biase in order to make more money.
They will list the few trusted ones and you will believe them that you have arrived and they will introduce the shady ones among.

When I gave up was one one review site rated 1xbit so high. It was then I became convinced about the biaseness and shady deals that are done behind the scene to deceive us.
A biased good attitude towards one site and listing the shortcomings of competitor sites should be on bookmaker review sites and in general all sites in the gambling industry.  Think about it yourself - so you spent time and money, organized a site with reviews and now you have to earn money somehow, or at least recoup the costs.  And this can only be done if there are sources of income.  And these sources are practically only casinos that want positive reviews and good advertising.  And here there are two options at once - to praise the one who paid, and to scold and list the shortcomings of his competitors, who did not pay. 
Everything is very simple. 

Therefore, read the reviews of real players here in BTT and you will understand everything correctly and objectively. Smiley

A lot of the problems become from the culture of having reviews done by professionals and even people who are incentivised in a perverse way to leave good reviews. Even youtubers and other influencers have a price and they certainly can make anything look very good or even try to appear very objective while actually not giving a correct impression.

Best advice: use this forum for it.
legendary
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Hello everyone, I've been using online sportsbooks for a while now, but I wanted to know how do you know how to trust those sites? What do you look for in them, what are some red flags for you, that kind of stuff. Hope it makes sense and please share what are your favorite online sportsbooks.
Checking their reputation is a big help. It is one of the steps you need to do before making yourself play with their service. Find out what issues does their players had encountered from playing on their site. Find reviews. Look also for accusation threads with strong proofs included. 

Right now I do not have any favorite sportsbook as I don't really gamble that much in relation to sports.
in summary what you said is the actual sense of it because before your partner with any company or any platform you have to research and know their operating style because if you don't really know their operating style before going there you can be scammed or you can be rubbed and when something of such nature happened let you feel as if the platform is bad why you are the one that caught it with yourself because of you have not paying attention to check their platform before doing anything in their service

You can't blame anyone once you already experiencing things like this. It's always best to check and do your research before you use the platform. Like you both mentioned, the site you will going to use should always have good reputations in terms of handling complaints and how the support is doing if in case an incident like this takes place while you are playing.

With good support, aside from reading and doing your part before playing, good support is also a good part in choosing the platform to use.

If they are willing to assist you and help you, it's a good sign that you are in a good type of gambling house.

You are right bro, apart from all these things that we can see both in the reputation as well as in the support, it is also good to check if there is a way of reviews, here in the forum there are many users who are casino reviewers, usually a quick trick It is to see if the casino has a thread with enough history, many pages, but in the same way you have to read, because in some cases the casinos that have a lot of history usually come to an end, but it is something that you can take into account when you are here in the forum, you can also make a quick review about their withdrawals, minimum amount, how are their welcome bonuses, if they are active with contests, if there is enough traffic, all that is good to check.
legendary
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When I gave up was one one review site rated 1xbit so high. It was then I became convinced about the biaseness and shady deals that are done behind the scene to deceive us.

Review sites are being used as a marketing tool by casino owners, as we know, newbies always use review websites before using that. And when they sees good ratings then people agrees to use the website, this is the reason why scam like 1xbit are still in the market. Because they keep their good rating on the review website and newbies visit their website to gamble, and then fall into scam.

I personally do not trust any review website and always look at  forum profile to make sure they have no negative feedbacks




Not only that but review sites (or at least most review sites that I know of) are basically scams which offer to give glowing reviews in exchange of money to some online gambling casino they have never even heard of, researched or tried out. This includes scam casinos that aren't actually casinos. Although they are a bit more careful about that due to the fact that in some cases they can be held legally accountable.

Still, either way, review sites are the worst. I would not trust them either. Some people are gullible and believe everything they read there, though. What a sad way to lose money.

Best thing you could do is do your own research.
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When I gave up was one one review site rated 1xbit so high. It was then I became convinced about the biaseness and shady deals that are done behind the scene to deceive us.

Review sites are being used as a marketing tool by casino owners, as we know, newbies always use review websites before using that. And when they sees good ratings then people agrees to use the website, this is the reason why scam like 1xbit are still in the market. Because they keep their good rating on the review website and newbies visit their website to gamble, and then fall into scam.

I personally do not trust any review website and always look at  forum profile to make sure they have no negative feedbacks




When it comes to review sites then the places i do only trust is

Btcgosu
GamblingBro
and the rest are shit and biased.....
On Btcgosu I saw some time ago (week or two) that they had listed 1xbit with a good rating (probably 75-100), but now i can't find it on searching. have they removed it? Or I just failed to find it out
legendary
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Of course, nothing is perfect. But, as you said it yourself, this forum is a good place to get reliable info about a sportsbook. Yes, there are sites doing honest reviews, but most websites with casino ratings hardly can be trusted. What I've noticed is that they can include 3-4 really good sites in their top 10, and then put on the 2nd, or even on the first place, the shady site that paid them, and since there's no forum there, you won't see any objections.
I think mostly they post dubious sites for referral links. I do not think that such reviewers are often paid for "job". We can see paid reviews on major review sites, but their review mostly shows small problems to increase the credibility of the reviewer and the casino. It's better to look here for what the players are saying.
You made a nice and true statement. The paid review sites are into business and making money and therefore they are somethings bent to be biase in order to make more money.
They will list the few trusted ones and you will believe them that you have arrived and they will introduce the shady ones among.

When I gave up was one one review site rated 1xbit so high. It was then I became convinced about the biaseness and shady deals that are done behind the scene to deceive us.
A biased good attitude towards one site and listing the shortcomings of competitor sites should be on bookmaker review sites and in general all sites in the gambling industry.  Think about it yourself - so you spent time and money, organized a site with reviews and now you have to earn money somehow, or at least recoup the costs.  And this can only be done if there are sources of income.  And these sources are practically only casinos that want positive reviews and good advertising.  And here there are two options at once - to praise the one who paid, and to scold and list the shortcomings of his competitors, who did not pay. 
Everything is very simple. 

Therefore, read the reviews of real players here in BTT and you will understand everything correctly and objectively. Smiley
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Of course, nothing is perfect. But, as you said it yourself, this forum is a good place to get reliable info about a sportsbook. Yes, there are sites doing honest reviews, but most websites with casino ratings hardly can be trusted. What I've noticed is that they can include 3-4 really good sites in their top 10, and then put on the 2nd, or even on the first place, the shady site that paid them, and since there's no forum there, you won't see any objections.
I think mostly they post dubious sites for referral links. I do not think that such reviewers are often paid for "job". We can see paid reviews on major review sites, but their review mostly shows small problems to increase the credibility of the reviewer and the casino. It's better to look here for what the players are saying.
You made a nice and true statement. The paid review sites are into business and making money and therefore they are somethings bent to be biase in order to make more money.
They will list the few trusted ones and you will believe them that you have arrived and they will introduce the shady ones among.

When I gave up was one one review site rated 1xbit so high. It was then I became convinced about the biaseness and shady deals that are done behind the scene to deceive us.
When it comes to review sites then the places i do only trust is

Btcgosu
GamblingBro
and the rest are shit and biased.....

This is why its really important on making yourself aware on whats happening around when it comes to those false recommendations and i have seen of them which do really market or promote 1xbit
which the entire community knows about on how shady and scammy this site is.
Trust is the most important thing but it doesnt really need much effort on at least making up some research before you do make out some deposit.
Dont rush up yourself because this forum itself or alone would be enough for you to find things which are legit and reputable.
rby
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Of course, nothing is perfect. But, as you said it yourself, this forum is a good place to get reliable info about a sportsbook. Yes, there are sites doing honest reviews, but most websites with casino ratings hardly can be trusted. What I've noticed is that they can include 3-4 really good sites in their top 10, and then put on the 2nd, or even on the first place, the shady site that paid them, and since there's no forum there, you won't see any objections.
I think mostly they post dubious sites for referral links. I do not think that such reviewers are often paid for "job". We can see paid reviews on major review sites, but their review mostly shows small problems to increase the credibility of the reviewer and the casino. It's better to look here for what the players are saying.
You made a nice and true statement. The paid review sites are into business and making money and therefore they are somethings bent to be biase in order to make more money.
They will list the few trusted ones and you will believe them that you have arrived and they will introduce the shady ones among.

When I gave up was one one review site rated 1xbit so high. It was then I became convinced about the biaseness and shady deals that are done behind the scene to deceive us.
legendary
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Of course, nothing is perfect. But, as you said it yourself, this forum is a good place to get reliable info about a sportsbook. Yes, there are sites doing honest reviews, but most websites with casino ratings hardly can be trusted. What I've noticed is that they can include 3-4 really good sites in their top 10, and then put on the 2nd, or even on the first place, the shady site that paid them, and since there's no forum there, you won't see any objections.
This is something I have noticed as well, they try to give credibility to their list by adding casinos that we all know have a very good reputation, but they also add casinos no one has ever heard about and what they hope is that people follow their links and then join that casino, not only they probably get a higher commission out of it, but since the only casinos which will do something so dubious are the ones that scam their customers they can probably offer even more incentives to those review websites so they are placed on such a high position on their rankings.

Good point, it can be done by scammers small amount or even decent amount of payment to reached a good spot from casino reviews can bring them gamblers to use their platforms, it will be easy for those scam facilitators to runaway with the gamblers money once they start to use and deposit decent amount of money.

Nothing can be safe aside from doing your own research and allow yourself to use the platform and experienced how the owners works with their gamblers.

It's always on your decision how to select and pick what is best for your gambling needs.
legendary
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Cant believe much with this kind of set up on where review sites been paid to shill out or put focus on hailing a particular platform which been paying on them but thats not how the community do reacts out because

majority of us do really much prefer on those honest review sites rather than on that little bit biased.We know that marketting do really come out on different forms
but its not really that kind of ethical thing to be done i would say.
The whole sholling thing is a big obstruction to the trust and review systems. I was met by one of these reviews once and took a little interest in searching out the truth to the reviews and it wasn't very surprising to have found a trend in time of the reviews as it came in regular others and almost the same number for a day (the positive and possibly shill reviews) as opposed to the actual reviews of which most where negative.
On this, I think the forum have been very commendable in ensuring that users giving review be sincere even when it's a paid one. Although, some users actually go through the process without really testing the site but, its more better than shilling and it helps too. Being observant on there projects ANN thread and keeping a close watch at the reputation section would help to keep a close watch.
legendary
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Of course, nothing is perfect. But, as you said it yourself, this forum is a good place to get reliable info about a sportsbook. Yes, there are sites doing honest reviews, but most websites with casino ratings hardly can be trusted. What I've noticed is that they can include 3-4 really good sites in their top 10, and then put on the 2nd, or even on the first place, the shady site that paid them, and since there's no forum there, you won't see any objections.
I think mostly they post dubious sites for referral links. I do not think that such reviewers are often paid for "job". We can see paid reviews on major review sites, but their review mostly shows small problems to increase the credibility of the reviewer and the casino. It's better to look here for what the players are saying.
The most if the review sites we have now including autopilot are making money from reviewing crypto gambling sites. Initially they might not be paid but later the gambling platform would allocate fund to them to boost their site review so they can have more new gamblers joining their platforms. This method are not bad but also those reviewing sites need money to maintain the services they offers to the public.

This is why we don't need to trust them because their review doesn't really have credibility because they could write up good reviews on anything paid them a decent amount of money. We see so many scam exchange got 5 star review on many casino review site so its not really good for newbie to follow them because what other bad experience may happen to them if they choose to select what those site recommend to them.
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Of course, nothing is perfect. But, as you said it yourself, this forum is a good place to get reliable info about a sportsbook. Yes, there are sites doing honest reviews, but most websites with casino ratings hardly can be trusted. What I've noticed is that they can include 3-4 really good sites in their top 10, and then put on the 2nd, or even on the first place, the shady site that paid them, and since there's no forum there, you won't see any objections.
I think mostly they post dubious sites for referral links. I do not think that such reviewers are often paid for "job". We can see paid reviews on major review sites, but their review mostly shows small problems to increase the credibility of the reviewer and the casino. It's better to look here for what the players are saying.
The most if the review sites we have now including autopilot are making money from reviewing crypto gambling sites. Initially they might not be paid but later the gambling platform would allocate fund to them to boost their site review so they can have more new gamblers joining their platforms. This method are not bad but also those reviewing sites need money to maintain the services they offers to the public.
Cant believe much with this kind of set up on where review sites been paid to shill out or put focus on hailing a particular platform which been paying on them but thats not how the community do reacts out because

majority of us do really much prefer on those honest review sites rather than on that little bit biased.We know that marketting do really come out on different forms
but its not really that kind of ethical thing to be done i would say.

Trusting up online sportsbook isnt something hard but of course making up some research wont really be that hard and doesnt really takes too much time.
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Of course, nothing is perfect. But, as you said it yourself, this forum is a good place to get reliable info about a sportsbook. Yes, there are sites doing honest reviews, but most websites with casino ratings hardly can be trusted. What I've noticed is that they can include 3-4 really good sites in their top 10, and then put on the 2nd, or even on the first place, the shady site that paid them, and since there's no forum there, you won't see any objections.
I think mostly they post dubious sites for referral links. I do not think that such reviewers are often paid for "job". We can see paid reviews on major review sites, but their review mostly shows small problems to increase the credibility of the reviewer and the casino. It's better to look here for what the players are saying.
The most if the review sites we have now including autopilot are making money from reviewing crypto gambling sites. Initially they might not be paid but later the gambling platform would allocate fund to them to boost their site review so they can have more new gamblers joining their platforms. This method are not bad but also those reviewing sites need money to maintain the services they offers to the public.
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