Good English skills are almost a must here and it helps a lot, sure. But there are members who receive plenty of merits although it is sometimes hard to understand what they are talking about. What they lack in the Language and Grammar department they make up with technical knowledge, programming skills, hard work and research and being helpful when others need help. And there are usually sources in the local sections.
Those who lack all of these skills, are cheaters and have no work ethics find it hard to get merits.
Topic: How does knowledge of English relate to receiving Merit? (Read 808 times)
No matter how universal the forum is, knowledge of English still plays an enormously great role in communicating and in the process earning merits(ranking up)
The goal of communication is to pass a message, in other words, for mutual intelligibility, now that's to say that when communicating if the other party doesn't understand what's said, then communication cannot be said to have taken place.
Now with that being said, you must not be able to use highfalutin or infallible grammar and sentences, but whichever way you do, just make sure it's coherent and understandable.
And lastly if you find it difficult to communicate in English, it's best you develop yourself first before trying to write on the forum, or you start from your local board.
The goal of communication is to pass a message, in other words, for mutual intelligibility, now that's to say that when communicating if the other party doesn't understand what's said, then communication cannot be said to have taken place.
Now with that being said, you must not be able to use highfalutin or infallible grammar and sentences, but whichever way you do, just make sure it's coherent and understandable.
And lastly if you find it difficult to communicate in English, it's best you develop yourself first before trying to write on the forum, or you start from your local board.
I'm sorry that I ( Jet Cash ) have rather neglected the Fit to Talk English project. It was taking up quite a lot of time, and it was becoming difficult to maintain interest. The site is still live, and if there is any enthusiasm, I'd be happy to revive it to help members without English as their first language to improve their posting skills.
You made a good thread, and deserve merits from your contribution. I wrote some words relate to English skills here:
Lastly, your thread should be moved to the Beginners & Help board.
(6) Spend your time to improve your English, especially Reading and Writing skills
Reasons:
- If you can not read posts or topic in English well, can not get ideas of posts' / topics' authors, it means that you have nothing to do in the forum.
Remember that you have to get their ideas well enough to not misunderstand their core ideas.
- Next, after reading good enough to catch authors' ideas, it is time for you to express your own ideas in case you have something to ask for help, something to discuss, or something meaningful to help others. This is the time you need to have good enough Writing skill.
This is why I mentioned you should improve your English skills, step by step, from Reading to Writing. Of course, you can improve both skills simultaneously.
The forum is the place almost solely for discussions via Reading and Writing.
You can find available sources for English learning in the References at the end of this OP.
In addition, there is another thead on English books: Collections for someone who would like to improve English skills, with downloadable links. Reasons:
- If you can not read posts or topic in English well, can not get ideas of posts' / topics' authors, it means that you have nothing to do in the forum.
Remember that you have to get their ideas well enough to not misunderstand their core ideas.
- Next, after reading good enough to catch authors' ideas, it is time for you to express your own ideas in case you have something to ask for help, something to discuss, or something meaningful to help others. This is the time you need to have good enough Writing skill.
This is why I mentioned you should improve your English skills, step by step, from Reading to Writing. Of course, you can improve both skills simultaneously.
The forum is the place almost solely for discussions via Reading and Writing.
You can find available sources for English learning in the References at the end of this OP.
Lastly, your thread should be moved to the Beginners & Help board.
Update
To get the merit it is important that the content what we right it is according to the question that was asked in the forum.Moreover the words that we use it must be used at the right place with correct grammar.
First of all, I want to thank you (author) for this necessary material. I really limp good English and for me this information is very useful.
I installed the Duolingo app and am already running It. Very handy app for your phone.
About merit. I think no need to put the first task is to earn merit. The first task you need to earn the respect among the other participants. Of course, I'm still learning and trying to be better and benefit other participants. But the important thing, I think, is to write the right topics in English. Training, help, advice, Guides, Observation. All that can benefit other participants. The author of this topic, correctly says that books help to expand vocabulary and see the grammatical features of the English language.
I installed the Duolingo app and am already running It. Very handy app for your phone.
About merit. I think no need to put the first task is to earn merit. The first task you need to earn the respect among the other participants. Of course, I'm still learning and trying to be better and benefit other participants. But the important thing, I think, is to write the right topics in English. Training, help, advice, Guides, Observation. All that can benefit other participants. The author of this topic, correctly says that books help to expand vocabulary and see the grammatical features of the English language.
Just so you know, I learned English through youtube.
Incorrect method. Thats like learning Chinese from a Chinese dictionary.Quote
Reading books are not good for beginners, you need a person who will explain how does the grammar works.
You need to have a teacher who knows both how to communicate with the learner in native language and has a strong grasp of English. Thats why your first comment was wrong.Quote
I'm not good in English and need to learn more and YouTube is the answer.
If you are learning English to get merits then you will end up learning a new language which is good but your effort is going to be directed in the wrong way. Learn in whatever way you want I dont care. As long as I see people keeping on repeating what has been told numerous times nobody is getting merits from me. 
I thank you for such a topic I need.
I do not speak English grammar well and basically I translate Google as an interpreter to participate in communication.
I decided to try the Duolingo app and downloaded to my child Children's Illustrated Thesaurus.
I do not speak English grammar well and basically I translate Google as an interpreter to participate in communication.
I decided to try the Duolingo app and downloaded to my child Children's Illustrated Thesaurus.
Using translate tools will earn you 0 merits. Either learn enough English to communicate or give up.
There is no cheat.. Merit sources just don't hand out to people they don't understand
I thank you for such a topic I need.
I do not speak English grammar well and basically I translate Google as an interpreter to participate in communication.
I decided to try the Duolingo app and downloaded to my child Children's Illustrated Thesaurus.
I do not speak English grammar well and basically I translate Google as an interpreter to participate in communication.
I decided to try the Duolingo app and downloaded to my child Children's Illustrated Thesaurus.
It’s in fact pretty clear what you should do. It’s not rocket science. If you struggle with speaking, you need to speak more. If you struggle with writting, you need to write more.read about merit ... pros and cons every day make my eyes 
So basically, it takes 21 days to make a habit so if we use ourselves in talking nor writing this will be at ease. It may be hard at first but as you go along you'll be surprise. If to take in general, in local branches very seldom share merit. I do not know. can this be the mentality of my country or something else, but experience is experience.
It isn't mentality but more on psychological approach since this what our mind conditioned since this is an english forum. However, there's also some good and informative post in local section and I know that those were merited well by merit sources and people who appreciated it.Yet for me, as long as the thought is there and isn't spam then why not, merit is meant to share to those who deserve.
Thanks for mentioning the Fit to Talk English project.
Most of the whitepapers relating to crypto are written in English, so the lack of a passing knowledge is a barrier to a full undertanding of the crypto world. The Oxford/Elite control the banking world, and much of the world economy, and English is the lingua franca there. The European Union does not have a common language, and it suffers from this. Now that the UK is leaving their clutches, I believe that they are considering the use of English as their primary language. Most merit sources are English speakers with limited time to read the boards, this means that posts written in fluid English are more likely to be read, and thus they are more likely to receive merit.
The Fit to Talk project seems to wax and wane in interest, and at the moment it seems to be increasing in activity. The more members who take advantage of it, the more use it is to the active participants, and the more likely senior Bitcoin Talk members are to help people with their English.
Most of the whitepapers relating to crypto are written in English, so the lack of a passing knowledge is a barrier to a full undertanding of the crypto world. The Oxford/Elite control the banking world, and much of the world economy, and English is the lingua franca there. The European Union does not have a common language, and it suffers from this. Now that the UK is leaving their clutches, I believe that they are considering the use of English as their primary language. Most merit sources are English speakers with limited time to read the boards, this means that posts written in fluid English are more likely to be read, and thus they are more likely to receive merit.
The Fit to Talk project seems to wax and wane in interest, and at the moment it seems to be increasing in activity. The more members who take advantage of it, the more use it is to the active participants, and the more likely senior Bitcoin Talk members are to help people with their English.
Honestly, if you check through all the merit I have ever given out, I don't think you will find a single one that wasn't written in perfect, or at least close to perfect English. I think the same goes for a lot of users here, in fact if a post is written poorly I tend not to read it at all, as rarely do intelligible things come from an individual who cannot even read or write. Having English as a second language isn't an excuse either, if you have the level of English required to be able to type out a sentence on the forum, then you have also likely learned at least basic grammar too.
TLDR: There is a significant positive correlation between writing ability and merit earned.
TLDR: There is a significant positive correlation between writing ability and merit earned.
Learning the English language is very useful in using most forums i guess. Forum like Reddit is commended because it can be used around the world and it is where a lot of opinions and insights are exchanged. They use the English language because it is easy to understand and learn because they teach the basics of English in every Elementary Schools. I guess TMAN's thread in receiving merit was great because following it might really give you a merit if you try your best in creating the post that will be understood by everybody.
Totally agree with you. In his topic, you can find many tips not only from the niggles, but also from other people who also learned English from scratchread about merit
Read about Bitcoin? You shouldn't be here for merit, you should be here for Bitcoin (knowledge of it).
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Read about Bitcoin? You shouldn't be here for merit, you should be here for Bitcoin (knowledge of it).
It’s in fact pretty clear what you should do. It’s not rocket science. If you struggle with speaking, you need to speak more. If you struggle with writting, you need to write more.read about merit ... pros and cons every day make my eyes
Learning the English language is very useful in using most forums i guess. Forum like Reddit is commended because it can be used around the world and it is where a lot of opinions and insights are exchanged. They use the English language because it is easy to understand and learn because they teach the basics of English in every Elementary Schools. I guess TMAN's thread in receiving merit was great because following it might really give you a merit if you try your best in creating the post that will be understood by everybody.
for me it is important that you have English knowledge especially here in the forum especially to help other people that the language is English .. if you are not fluently or you do not know English you have no knowledge in english i think i can not help so for me knowledge in english is important really being proficient in english is good ..btw thank you for sharing this.
I think your English does not need to be great, but at least without a lot of grammar mistake and easy for other people to understand. If you post something that no one can understand, it is hard for other people to communicate with you effectively in the forum, thus it is hard to receive merit.
Well, learning to speak English fluently will definitely make you a good writer. Of course the constructiveness of a sentence or paragraph filled with information will definitely be noticed. With that surely merits may be given if they find it very helpful.
Sure there are lots of books out there but still, Learning still depend on a person's attitude on how they will be determined learning how to improve themselves.
but still appreciated the effort finding useful books. Good job.
Thank you so much. Sure there are lots of books out there but still, Learning still depend on a person's attitude on how they will be determined learning how to improve themselves.
but still appreciated the effort finding useful books. Good job.
I thought that these books will take your time as productive as possible.
It was with them literally in a month that I was able to speak fluent English with people from other countries, paying for training by the hour per day.
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