How engaging was the forum without signature campaign?

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Quote from: Yucky on July 16, 2024, 03:01:05 AM

I'm curious to know this, how was the forum before signature campaign became a thing in the forum? I know it's possible that a lot of people are active almost everyday on the forum and are iether engaging in real discussions or sometimes trying to meet up with thier post requirements and a lot of others like myself whose journey is still at the development phase would want to get some sort of encouragement that will keep us going with or without being a part of any signature campaign

Just like every other thing, there are good and bad sides to signature campaign since it introduction to the forum, I wasn't here before signature campaign got introduced but I was around when it become more popular and the good thing I noticed is that it help improved many users quality but also the spams were in their numbers but still many users had to work on their accounts to be eligible for acceptance into campaigns and ironically it also improved the quality of discussion we got. There will always be bad eggs so lets not use them to disqualify the impact signature campaign has brought to the forum.

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IShould there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?

Every platform out there has one way or another that they're rewarding their active users and the forum doing the same is encouraging. If the signature campaign aren't harming the forum then they don't have to end but if they're causing a nuisance and it's becoming uncontrollable then they can end it. The signature campaigns are just privileges as what is important is the discussions we're having on the forum. The forum interest should always be put first just as how theymos had to end all mixers when their presence on the forum were becoming a problem, same can be done for all signatures.

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Quote from: Yucky on July 16, 2024, 03:01:05 AM

I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?

Only old forum members that were active then when there is no signature campaigns will answer this question proper, but we can only answer you based on the fact that we have gone through some of there post histories before the coming of signature campaigns; there are a lot of low quality posts and online posts that don’t contain most information on them. The coming of signature campaign keeps forum members active and the merit system also helps to eliminate or reduce spamming and shitpost.

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Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?

Campaigns keeps man at users active, and if it all stops then definitely there will a lot of inactive users.
I don’t think it will cease because most of the companies are enjoying their partnership with the forum because they are getting customers.

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Quote from: Faisal2202 on July 21, 2024, 10:17:22 AM

I am not enrolled in any signature campaign at the moment, and I can say for sure that you don't need to be in a campaign to be active here.

You do not need to enroll in one to be active, but you are probably not going to spend much time here if it was not incentivized either I guess. While you are not currently enrolled in one, did you not just recently leave a Campaign (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.64288169

This Forum without Signature Campaigns would be quiet yet natural, kind of boring yet a fun place to hang out for Bitcoin nerds. Signature Campaigns are some what like paying you to go to socialization meetups with your neighbors. I do not even know if I would like this Forum better without the Campaigns, it would likely be kind of boring considering there will be no incentive to be creative at all.

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Quote from: Yucky on July 16, 2024, 03:01:05 AM

I'm curious to know this, how was the forum before signature campaign became a thing in the forum? I know it's possible that a lot of people are active almost everyday on the forum and are iether engaging in real discussions or sometimes trying to meet up with thier post requirements and a lot of others like myself whose journey is still at the development phase would want to get some sort of encouragement that will keep us going with or without being a part of any signature campaign.

I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?

Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?

I am not enrolled in any signature campaign at the moment, and I can say for sure that you don't need to be in a campaign to be active here. I have spent 4 years here and I achieved not much but I am happy that I come to learn a lot, I hope some legendary people will see my posts and by reading my posts they might have known me and that means I am getting familiarized here. Making fellows is good for knowledge. People share knowledge without any hesitation and benefit.

As I have spent much time, that's why this forum has become one of my habits and I liked my time here. A time will come when you will also like your time spending here. How? That's a mystery you have to solve. For example, ask yourself why are you here and be honest, it is not wrong to say I am here for money because the admin of the forum also said there is nothing wrong with it. We all want to make money. But if you want to learn from this forum then you have to spend a little more time because no doubt you are true about the fact that people enrolled in signature campaigns are making it hard for others to finds valuable posts that can really guide us. But If I were you, I would be spending more time in beginners and help section because it consists of valuable data.

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Quote from: Yucky on July 16, 2024, 03:01:05 AM

I'm curious to know this, how was the forum before signature campaign became a thing in the forum? I know it's possible that a lot of people are active almost everyday on the forum and are iether engaging in real discussions or sometimes trying to meet up with thier post requirements and a lot of others like myself whose journey is still at the development phase would want to get some sort of encouragement that will keep us going with or without being a part of any signature campaign.

I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?

Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?

To note, I am new here, but someoe can imagine how the forum worked..! Psychologically and through the education by those who has been here before campaign era
As it seems, the forum is like other online areas, it becomes obvious how the forum was... It is obviously true
That the forum wasn't as active as of now...
And when say campaign, you are invariably talking about converting BTC...
T hese this with human mindset one can deduse how the forum will be. very much scanty?

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I know this forum for more than a decade now, though my current account is way younger. My main interest here is Bitcoin and to learn from and engage in topics about Bitcoin in particular and crypto coins in general with users with far more experience or knowledge.

For the majority of time in this forum I didn't care much about signature campaigns, those were simply not my focus. Being in one, I see as a bonus, not my main goal. Yes, I post more now than in the past before I joined a sig campaign. I have my own basic quality standards for posting and I want to stay true to myself.

When campaign sponsors and maintainers mandate a certain minimum level of quality, it's for the better of the forum, at least in theory.

What would change for me if I would drop out of sig campaigns or campaigns cease to be available anymore? I would still visit and participate in this forum, likely post somewhat less than now, but other than that, not much would change from my perspective and willingness to engage here.

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Without the signature seems the forum will be very subtle like people doing a spam chat, or just an answer and question well the forum is now growing people now having a problem, thoughts and experience that they can share so other forum members relate to this and they exchange information even without the signature. Of course with the signature people need to require a number of post if they want to get paid with the campaign also they can back posting but its different if you are getting paid to get a post. Reason why number of newly members join in the forum and one of their common question how to earn hear in forum or how to earn in bitcoin or free money.

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Quote from: avp2306 on July 21, 2024, 01:07:18 AM

With or without signature campaigns forum will still the same. The only thing change will be the activity since a lot of people might decrease their participation on their discussion since there's nothing can motivate them and maybe they visit the forum only when they need something especially looking up some news or clarification on certain issues happened on certain events.

But still see great peoples especially those OG in this forum since with or without signature campaign they are promoting they are still hear sharing good insights towards which topic they are interested. We see them share valuable discussions which a lot of people could able to learn something from them.

For those who are already active in the forum, perhaps only a reduction in discussion activity will occur. but I'm sure the old members will still be active on the forum.
what will probably be greatly reduced is the number of new members registering. I see that many people end up inviting or telling their family, friends, and co-workers to the forum because of the reason for getting money from signature campaigns or from bounties.
We can't lie to ourselves that signature and bounty campaigns do provide a special attraction for new users.

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Quote from: Publictalk792 on July 20, 2024, 09:40:32 PM

Quote from: Zlantann on July 20, 2024, 03:02:14 PM

Without signature campaigns, people will visit Bitcointalk but activities will drop greatly. Members will still contribute to the forum but not be as active if they were been paid for it. A typical example is to check the activities of people who were once active when they were in campaigns and when they were not in any subscriptions. You will see that their post quality has decreased. If you observe closely some well-known accounts are inactive because they are not in any campaign. I also think that campaigns contributed to the quality of posts. Members would put more effort into their posts since they are promoting a service. These service sections will be busy if there are campaigns. Those members offering design and project management services will not have many jobs without subscriptions.

Yes you are right that if Bitcointalk does not have signature campaigns people will visit site less mostly and quality of posts will go down. Campaigns give people reason to contribute to forum because they get paid. Without that many people will stop participating. We can see this already with users who were active when they were part of campaign but are now less active because they are not getting paid. Without campaigns sections for design and project management will suffer and people offering these services will get fewer jobs. Overall signature campaigns are important for keeping the forum active and full of good content.

With or without signature campaigns forum will still the same. The only thing change will be the activity since a lot of people might decrease their participation on their discussion since there's nothing can motivate them and maybe they visit the forum only when they need something especially looking up some news or clarification on certain issues happened on certain events.

But still see great peoples especially those OG in this forum since with or without signature campaign they are promoting they are still hear sharing good insights towards which topic they are interested. We see them share valuable discussions which a lot of people could able to learn something from them.

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Quote from: Zlantann on July 20, 2024, 03:02:14 PM

Without signature campaigns, people will visit Bitcointalk but activities will drop greatly. Members will still contribute to the forum but not be as active if they were been paid for it. A typical example is to check the activities of people who were once active when they were in campaigns and when they were not in any subscriptions. You will see that their post quality has decreased. If you observe closely some well-known accounts are inactive because they are not in any campaign. I also think that campaigns contributed to the quality of posts. Members would put more effort into their posts since they are promoting a service. These service sections will be busy if there are campaigns. Those members offering design and project management services will not have many jobs without subscriptions.

Yes you are right that if Bitcointalk does not have signature campaigns people will visit site less mostly and quality of posts will go down. Campaigns give people reason to contribute to forum because they get paid. Without that many people will stop participating. We can see this already with users who were active when they were part of campaign but are now less active because they are not getting paid. Without campaigns sections for design and project management will suffer and people offering these services will get fewer jobs. Overall signature campaigns are important for keeping the forum active and full of good content.

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Quote from: Asiska02 on July 20, 2024, 12:50:27 PM

As I was not part of the forum during the time that they were no signature campaign up to the time that one first came to live, one cannot really tell how the activities was by then. But during the time one has spent in the forum, one can as well imagine what the forum will look like without signature campaigns. The morale reduce significantly when a person is no longer in signature campaigns with only few coming back to post more often in order to get back to a new campaign sooner or for the likeness to the forum as a place of discussion for them.

Users without signature campaigns are sometimes more susceptible to spamming and writing low quality posts compared to those that are in campaigns. Campaigns have made to filter spam posters from good posters and also improved the wiki of posting for many users. So if today, there are no more campaigns in the forum, I just imagine how this place will look like because engagement will definitely reduce drastically.

You are right there. The forum will certainly remain but most likely, the members will be less active when it comes to posting activities. We have been used already making an income out from our post activity in the forum and suddenly it will end up vanish like thin air, even myself I can't hardly imagine it.

I don't know what's the future of signature campaigns, but if this will be the only reason why majority of the members will stay in the forum, then hopefully this will come to stay.

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Quote from: Yucky on July 16, 2024, 03:01:05 AM

I'm curious to know this, how was the forum before signature campaign became a thing in the forum? I know it's possible that a lot of people are active almost everyday on the forum and are iether engaging in real discussions or sometimes trying to meet up with thier post requirements and a lot of others like myself whose journey is still at the development phase would want to get some sort of encouragement that will keep us going with or without being a part of any signature campaign.

I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?

Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?

I think that regardless of whether there are signature campaigns happening here on Bitcointalk, it would still be engaging and many people would still use bitcointalk. The purpose of bitcointalk was not just for signature campaigns. One example is posting in the service board about services a person can offer, like design, project management and other services. If I’m not mistaken, one of the busiest sections or boards here on bitcointalk in the past was the service section, which had many opportunities to earn, not just through signature campaigns. If you remember, there were also Twitter and Facebook campaigns that you could only apply for here on bitcointalk.

Without signature campaigns, people will visit Bitcointalk but activities will drop greatly. Members will still contribute to the forum but not be as active if they were been paid for it. A typical example is to check the activities of people who were once active when they were in campaigns and when they were not in any subscriptions. You will see that their post quality has decreased. If you observe closely some well-known accounts are inactive because they are not in any campaign. I also think that campaigns contributed to the quality of posts. Members would put more effort into their posts since they are promoting a service. These service sections will be busy if there are campaigns. Those members offering design and project management services will not have many jobs without subscriptions.

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Quote from: Yucky on July 16, 2024, 03:01:05 AM

I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?

Forum is worst when in terms of posting quality when I’m new here but signature campaign was available back then but has less rules when we talk about post quality. Signature campaign push everyone to become a better poster since it’s hard to be qualified nowadays for a spot if you don’t put effort on your post.

The effect of signature campaign is more on positive since it doesn’t tolerate spam. It’s less spam now compared before.

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Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?

But why? Signature campaign helps forum user to earn extra income especially for people who lives on 3rd world country like me.

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Quote from: Yucky on July 16, 2024, 03:01:05 AM

I'm curious to know this, how was the forum before signature campaign became a thing in the forum? I know it's possible that a lot of people are active almost everyday on the forum and are iether engaging in real discussions or sometimes trying to meet up with thier post requirements and a lot of others like myself whose journey is still at the development phase would want to get some sort of encouragement that will keep us going with or without being a part of any signature campaign.

I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?

Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?

I think that forum will be terrible before establishment of signature campaign in the forum, so I know quite well that forum is something that is interactive and major motive of the establishment of forum is to transpare the knowledge of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies who has been established and the one that has not be established to be know, so in that note, we have to understand that, look at in another side, their is some people who has being has dropped signature for like two or three years but their are still in bitcointalk to learn everyday of things that's related with bitcoin.

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I think the early members of the forum would have been in the best position to answer the question on how the forum was before signature campaigns but on a normal view, let's just be realistic because whatever we do and receive rewards it is believed that we give more concentration and energy to make sure that we keep getting such rewards so I believe that even if the forum was active in forum discussion but it can't be compared to when signature campaigns was introduced to the forum because you get to engage in forum discussion almost all day in order to meet up signature quota unlike in the past when you can decide to log in whenever you like and some people can stay for a very long time before logging in but with the introduction of signature campaigns users become more active and contributive to discussions in the forum.

However, it is important to understand that the success of any platform is determined by how productive members of such platforms are so we should engage in quality contributions even while we want to meet up post count for payments in the various signature campaigns we represent and see the payments as a form of bonus for spending time in the forum.

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As I was not part of the forum during the time that they were no signature campaign up to the time that one first came to live, one cannot really tell how the activities was by then. But during the time one has spent in the forum, one can as well imagine what the forum will look like without signature campaigns. The morale reduce significantly when a person is no longer in signature campaigns with only few coming back to post more often in order to get back to a new campaign sooner or for the likeness to the forum as a place of discussion for them.

Users without signature campaigns are sometimes more susceptible to spamming and writing low quality posts compared to those that are in campaigns. Campaigns have made to filter spam posters from good posters and also improved the wiki of posting for many users. So if today, there are no more campaigns in the forum, I just imagine how this place will look like because engagement will definitely reduce drastically.

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It's easy to draw to à conclusion that there was less activity on the forum as a result of no signature campaigns, but Bitcoin price too was low because it wasn't a popular digital asset at the time ...but I believe the forums numbers went over the roof when we had faucets, Airdrops which paid well at the time, ICOs and a whole lot of other factors that contributed to the forums popularity!!!

So signatures alone didn't bring in the numbers as far as I know, it was a collective effort but I think there is a correlation between BTC price going up and traffic coming to the forum!!

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on July 17, 2024, 11:27:45 AM

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on July 16, 2024, 11:16:41 PM

Without signature campaigns I believe a majority of people would eventually quit.

Take a lot at Altcoinstalk and how that forum was without signature campaigns, discussions were poor and even people who started topics, some did not see any need to express themselves well sometimes. Incentives from signature campaigns have increased the activity in the forum, and made the forum better. For some signature campaigns you have to be a very quality writer to be accepted into it so this drives quality here, and every user would want to write properly to make themselves eligible.

You are correct but I think in the case of Altcointalk, people were not initially interested in posting there not because there were no signature campaigns but because they were already in a place where they are paid for making post by the signature campaigns so not being paid in another forum because too boring for them. I think the incentives gotten from the signature campaigns helps to motivate most of the members who are earning from the campaigns to keep visiting the forum and it also helps them to keep getting better in terms of the information they gather and share here and the traffic we get here most times is also as the results of the members who visit the forum to interact and do other businesses which they got as a result of becoming a member here.

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There will always be x number of low quality posts with or without signature campaigns. Signature campaigns are a reason why we see an increase in the amount of quality posts on the forum. People are more likely to put thought and time into their posts, and making constructive posts, when they are incentivized to do so. Money is a motivating factor for many of the active posters even if they refuse to admit it. But I do not see how that is a problem if you’re contributing to the forum.

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Quote from: PrivacyG on July 16, 2024, 11:25:26 AM

Quote from: Yucky on July 16, 2024, 03:01:05 AM

Should there cease to be signature campaign on the forum, what's likely the effect it will have on an average member of the forum?

Many Members would not Post much if at all, many of them would quit definitively.

On the other hand, I really believe that Signature Campaigns did good to the quality of Posts. While I see many Members simply being echo chambers of other Members, there are many who write constructive ideas and Posts.

I would imagine the Forum would look so much simpler without the need for constructive Replies. Have you ever seen the Comments section in a Reddit Thread? That is how I imagine Bitcoin Talk Threads would look like.

Without signature campaigns, I think this whole forum will not be active and constructive as it is right now. Although there might be some who would stick with this forum and continue to post and share their own concepts and ideas, but the number of replies would never be as many as it is now. So having signature campaigns around bring more positive effects to the forum, aside from the profits around that these participants are also eager to receive in compensation for their quality and logical posts.

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