Topic: How engaging was the forum without signature campaign? - page 2. (Read 537 times)

Of course, the presence of signature campaigns has positively motivated members to contribute effectively and with high quality due to the financial incentive they receive through placing the signature and avatar of the platform or the company that finances the campaign and earning some money through the constructive posts that they publish in the forum.

It is worth mentioning that even without signature campaigns, the forum has many other benefits and advantages, such as learning, meaningful discussions, gaining experience, making friends around the world, and even finding job opportunities. In my view, the financial factor is not the basis for the continued survival of members to remain active here; it might be one of the secondary factors. The psychological factor of being a contributor to the main Bitcoin forum, which has been contributed to by prominent figures, early developers, founders of crypto, and leading industry companies, is indeed a significant motivation and factor.

The forum traffic will greatly reduce if signature campaigns cease to exist in the forum, earning from signature campaigns is an added incentive for users to post and contribute to discussions in the forum and there is no need for it to stop.

Some people would not admit it, but the desire to join campaigns has made a lot of users better posters, it has helped them to do better research about bitcoin, widened their knowledge of the network, and even improved their spelling and grammar, because if you hardly make quality posts, your chances of joining a campaign is so slim.

you have seen how people who previously joined the signature campaign regularly post every day, but when they are not in the campaign, their posting frequency starts to decrease, it shows how the signature campaign is a motivation for some users to post here. and if the signature campaign is removed from this forum, maybe you will see how this forum goes back to its old days where only people who are really enthusiastic about bitcoin interact here, and maybe you will see sections like gambling discussions will drastically reduce their activity, because most of the signature campaigns here are supported by gambling platforms.

Take a lot at Altcoinstalk and how that forum was without signature campaigns, discussions were poor and even people who started topics, some did not see any need to express themselves well sometimes. Incentives from signature campaigns have increased the activity in the forum, and made the forum better. For some signature campaigns you have to be a very quality writer to be accepted into it so this drives quality here, and every user would want to write properly to make themselves eligible.

The activities a person need to have before engaged in this forum is not that much, first thing person need to have before rank off in this forum which is also very important is the merits system and activities their the one that will lead you to become a full member. Then from the full member rank you can able to apply any signature that is available at that moment, that means if the manager of that signature is required a full member slot.
Assume that that there's know more signature compaign again in this forum, many of users will be relax, because they will not post regular the way their making a daily post when they're in campaign. The fact is that some can even spend a month before visit this forums, because if you observe some users in this forum if there campaign is ended or has been removed in the compaign they won't make a regular post again till after they get another signature.

There is no doubt about it, people will always try to show themselves in the best light if it means that they will be recognized as top posters, which also means that they will very likely become members of the best paid campaigns. One of the best examples is the CM campaign which lasted for years and had above average pay rates, and many members who had no chance of being accepted due to their low rank often applied there and hoped that one day they would be part of the campaign.

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The interest still exists, but it is much less than 6+ years ago, considering that today we have a merit system, which nevertheless proved to be a significant obstacle for the majority of spammers. This does not mean that there are no spammers, but it means that it is very difficult for them to progress, especially to some higher ranks.

Before I was introduced to this forum by one of my friends, the signature campaign was already available in the forum. So, I can't really say much about the forum before the signature was introduced. However, what I do know is that there were people active on the forum before the signature campaign. From my current perspective, if people were not always active in the forum and having better discussions, I don't think those companies promoting their services would have done so.

The truth about the signature campaign in the forum is that it has both advantages and disadvantages. There is a positive impact as well as a negative impact. If there were no introduction of the signature campaign, I don't think there would be as many members in the forum as there are now. Especially some rate of set of members who continue contributing significantly to the forum. Also, if there were no signature campaign, I don't think there would be as much spamming as there is currently, because members would only reply or post what they don't know,but as signature campaign available some members are looking for way to meet up their signature requirement.

Actually, I was also curious about a forum without a signature campaign, but after seeing the picture here I realized that the forum was empty of posts.

I see more of the positive.


There is influence, but it depends on each user in their activities on the forum. If users are active in forums hoping to get paid from signature campaigns, perhaps their level of activeness in discussions here will decrease.

If it's done right it should affect the Bitcoin economy positively, and probably signature campaigns along with the services board are the thing that made Bitcoin strong today since it was the forerunner of "cryptocurrency" trades.

So it's not only about the posts but the economy itself in the beginning (based on my humble observation).

If it stops today then this forum would lose most of its activity since most members participate in the economy in various ways, such as designers, campaign managers, signature participants, etc. Basically, the forum needs content and only an extremely small percentage of members will provide it for free. Without an incentive, maybe people will still log in but as a silent reader, and if this continues, economic activities along with the discussions will take place in other places eventually.

I have not known this forum for a long time. I had never heard of the forum story before the existence of Signature. So I don't understand but I'm just predicting.

Maybe this forum will be a little lonely, except for people who are actively seeking knowledge and sharing. But if you look at the purpose of Satoshi creating a forum is to discuss Bitcoin, but in the development of this forum it has become extraordinary with the addition of some rules.

With the existence of Signature and the rules from the manager, it also helps to improve the quality of discussions. In addition, Merit also influences, because ranking increases are not only seen from the many posts made.  

I knew about the forum before the signature campaign got implemented, but even without it, I don’t have any way of creating an account. I was just coming to the forum to read some topics and reply to them, and nothing more than that, and I realised that there were not many quality posts compared to when the signature campaign came in, although by then you wouldn't see too many people spamming a thread.

 But now many people are doing that just to meet the post-quarter deadline that their signature campaign needed to get paid, and that is why you will see that small thread with many people replying to it. Most of them are just repeating what has been said, but the signature campaign is not like that. The difference, I think, is that there are more quality posts now than when there is no signature campaign, and the forum is also more active than when there are no signature campaigns. 

I think that regardless of whether there are signature campaigns happening here on Bitcointalk, it would still be engaging and many people would still use bitcointalk. The purpose of bitcointalk was not just for signature campaigns. One example is posting in the service board about services a person can offer, like design, project management and other services. If I’m not mistaken, one of the busiest sections or boards here on bitcointalk in the past was the service section, which had many opportunities to earn, not just through signature campaigns. If you remember, there were also Twitter and Facebook campaigns that you could only apply for here on bitcointalk.

Is there really any changes will happen if signature campaigns didn't exist? For sure spam will still exist since people will still do that since there are lazy people will comment with reading the whole context and post nonsense things here. Sig campaigns have campaign manager which make sure the quality of post made by their participants and for sure that everything is handle well especially if the campaign manager of the campaign is reputable member of this forum.

Also sig campaigns somehow bring positive result to the forum since it urge people to create some activity since they have something to get in return for the efforts they made. Although we can't deny that there are rubbish topic out there, but for sure we can avoid to participate on any of those and select those discussions which have valid points so that we can also make sure that we give proper visibility to the brands we are promoting.

If example there's bitcointalk will not allow sig campaigns anymore. Then provably that we could see a decrease of activities and we already see that happening when mixers sig campaigns has been here.

Primarily, it's going to filter out those who are buying Bitcoin and who are in the forum for the knowledge from those who are just participating in the forum discussion to complete their signature campaign requirement.  Millions of active users are on YouTube, Facebook, and LinkedIn not because they are being paid to contribute to those platforms but basically because they are gaining and enjoying some benefit from those platforms.

The forum is a compendium of resources and knowledge and any reasonable person who's interested in gaining knowledge on finance, Bitcoin and tech would want to leverage this forum for such kinds of things outside of the regular signature campaign. If the signature campaign ceases to exist, there is no way it won't have an effect on most forum users' activeness but even with that, as long as Bitcoin remains relevant and continues with the trend it has maintained, bitcointalk.com will always remain active and relevant.

I would rather make a comparison between the effect of the price of Bitcoin to the relevance of the forum than the effect of the signature campaign on the forum users. Bitcoin is the skeletal framework of the forum and what will play a bigger role in the fate of the forum is more related to Bitcoin than a signature campaign or any other services on the forum. The forum is evolving by the year and we can't really tell what will become of it in years to come. With time, there might be better reasons to engage in forum discussion that's even more mouth-watering than signature campaigns.

I just want to know, what was the engagement like in the forum discussion before signature campaign and how has the Advent of signature campaign affected the forum? Is it positively or negatively?
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I would say signature campaigns have been a net positive to the forum. Before the merit system was introduced, users used to spam the forum and grow farm accounts easily but the forum has seen significant changes in post quality since then. And to be able to join sig campaigns, you need to be at least full member rank (100+merits), this doesn’t come easy and you have to be a somewhat good poster to achieve this.  

This has been discussed a lot in the past in Meta. I don’t think the forum would be a graveyard if signature campaigns are no longer allowed but the activity of users would reduce. Like it or now, incentives are big motivation for users to keep posting here. I’m confident of this now because of how easily people moved to altcointalk in the last year.

Without signature campaigns I believe a majority of people would eventually quit. This forum is not optimized for mobile at all like you would expect from a modern website that is popular. Social media and messaging apps like Telegram have, for the most part, replaced forums. We’ve also seen that people that have become important enough or rich enough don’t find the need to post on here anymore.

It is clear that getting paid to write is an incentive to do so. I am a member in other forums and still write from time to time, but guess which one I write in the most? The time we have is limited and if you get paid for an activity you do on one site and you don't get paid for the same activity on another site, it's normal that you spend most of your available time on the one you get paid for.

Every person connected to the forum uses the forum for his own benefit. I think now maybe there would be less spam here if the forum didn't have signature campaigns. Maybe many members come to this bitcoin forum not only to earn money by joining signature campaign but many come to increase their knowledge about bitcoin. There are many others who come here only hoping to earn and post regularly. But after I joined this forum I saw that mixer campaigns are banned in bitcointalk forum. It is true that the traffic of this forum has decreased somewhat since then.

As an example of forum traffic and members becoming inactive, I was previously connected to another forum which was Altcointalk forum. The forum was very active for a while then when various campaigns stopped coming the traffic dropped completely even the forum was inactive for several days. Currently mixer campaigns are being published there regularly which is increasing the traffic of that forum.

I want you to know that everyone has their individual purpose of being in the forum and even though I didn't know about how the forum was before signature campaign began but just like other platforms I believe that the people then were still engaging more in Bitcoin related discussions and it's development and for me I think that was when quality posts were even made more than now because there is no rush to fulfill signature posts counts which results to some people making irrelevant posts just to get paid as it is today but I want you to understand that there are still old users who started the forum more than a decade ago and they are very much active in the forum without without signature campaigns and they are pretty doing alright in their real life.

Though there are people who came to the forum basically because of the signature earnings but if signature campaigns seize to exist in the forum then life goes on just like it has been when most companies that came to advertise their signatures left after some time, that is why people should not only depend on signature earnings because they will come and go and the forum will still continue to exist even though there may be a reduction in the activity of some users but what would be would be.

It's undeniable that with signature campaigns nowadays, people become more eager and interested to participate in the forum and rank up so they can qualify for a signature campaign participant. With that, there's high chances that the forum becomes more crowded and spammers and low quality posters have been increasing in number in the forum.

Well, that's how money motivate these people, that even if they don't have sufficient understanding with how this forum and bitcoin works in the market, their extreme need for money still prevail.