Topic: How forum detect automated translation? - page 2. (Read 526 times)

Sometimes it's easy to spot fake translators. As here (see the selection of this archive).

Unfortunately, they're smarter than above. But it's usually quite easy to spot. There are technical terms where translation tools fail completely.
Some examples (for french):
Mining pools: translation tools often translate 'pool' into 'piscine' which means swimming pool. And we end up with ridiculous translations saying: Mining swimming pool.
Whitepaper : the literal translation is 'Papier Blanc'. But in good French, we say "Livre Blanc" (White Book). So when I see 'Papier blanc', it makes me very suspicious.

If I have any doubts, I compare with the original ann and look at how I would have translated it. Or sometimes I use the translation tools and if the result is the same (and with incomprehensible sentences), I'm pretty sure it's an automatic translation.

And I also rely a lot on the number of reports I receive about an ann. If several (trusted) members tell me that it is an automatic translation, my investigations are shorter and the sanction comes quickly.

It's more complicated, but if the mod receives several detailed reports or if the fake translator is already red trusted for bad translations, he doesn't have to think too much.
Otherwise there is the possibility to open a topic in Reputation and ask people who understand the language you don't know. And you link this topic in the report and mod will act according to the answers of this topic.

We have that Thread "  Übersetzungs-Spam gefunden? Hier könnt ihr ihn berichten " ( Translation spam can be reported here ) it means !

If we find some Translation spammer or someone who used Translation Tools we write it there and report the post or thread with the reference link to the thread we have for !

We got no problems with that and all Translation spam gets deleted !

Since the rules was created on 2014, back on those days translation tools like google translate is still poor to translate a sentences or even some difficult words.
So native speakers might be easily to recognize that and report it to the mods/admin.
however, nowadays translation tools have a huge improvement and it's hard to recognize which one using a whole auto translation and the one who doesn't (atleast on my own native language, bahasa).

I think the detection can ve done by any member who is a native speaker of that language then they report to the mods... Pretty much like reporting spam.
It's just a community thing.

I am still learning Spanish, and I am coming to your Local board soon. Hope my poorly constructed Spanish sentences won't be mistaken for automated translation 

On my local board one can spot them due to the way the expression are constructed, and especially when inaccurate words are placed in the phrases (this makes them stand-out). If I see them I report them, but more often than not, my local moderator detects them himself and deleted them. One good thing that our local moderator often does is to leave a comment stating the reason for an action (deleting a post, moving a thread to a given section, and so on).

How will I detect also if I am not native? Actually question regarding detection of automated translation. How it will detect? Perhaps poster would claim that he/she know multiple languages. Then how it would be moderated? I am not wondering about report, I am wondering how moderators will handle it. Based on what?

Generally it requires a native speaker of the language to spot vocabulary or grammar errors that are characteristic of machine translation. (Obviously human translations can have errors too, more so if the translator is not fluent in one of the languages in question, but the types of errors made will be distinctive enough that a native speaker can tell the difference.)

It's the same as other rule breakers: report it, so Mods can remove the post.

Question is how forum or moderators detect automated translation? And if someone cought what is the action from forum/moderators side?

For example, user sellinglegandaryaccount is using multiple local language (almost more then 5 different languages). May be its possible he/she know all languages and also there suspicion that he/she is using automated translation tools.

What is appropriate action about this case since it's related with forum rules.