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hero member
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June 06, 2015, 08:10:27 AM
#54
Very few people can win in the long run. For each that manages to do it, 1000 others ruin themselves by being too greedy.

We are probably living in different worlds. According to this thread(and most people) success in gambling is 99% luck. But to me, its something like 95% hard work, and 5% being the right type of a person. Luck does not matter because it evens out in the end.

And "1000 others ruins themselfs by being too greedy" is not entirely correct other. They dont lose because they are "greedy", they lose because there are no reasons for them to be winning in the first place.

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And even big winner may lose everything by bad luck, and then what?

Not really possible to "lose everything" with a proper BRM
legendary
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June 06, 2015, 07:55:06 AM
#53
I used to be so greedy. whenever I gambled I always did it with extreme greed an as a result I always lose. I am trying to fix than now but it is hard :/
now I try to gamble with more caution and I am less greedy and try to win instead of win big.
legendary
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June 06, 2015, 07:52:34 AM
#52
i am not so i quit gambling, though i lost initially after then i decided its better to donate (you will feel good ) than losing in gambling (you will feel bad).
Yes its good to donate,but i would feel perfect if i win something in gambling Smiley and its fun... Smiley
its bad but its fun Smiley
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June 06, 2015, 03:36:21 AM
#51
i am not so i quit gambling, though i lost initially after then i decided its better to donate (you will feel good ) than losing in gambling (you will feel bad).
legendary
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June 06, 2015, 02:48:45 AM
#50
there are very rare success stories by gambling it always sucks in long time, i think i am not a greedy type of gambler i had started with giveaway amount on PD and turn that 0.01btc into 0.17btc in 10 minutes but busted there and after this made deposit to recover this but again happened same and overall i lost on PD over 1btc to recover 0.01 Tongue

Isn't this a fine example of being somewhat greedy? Because if you weren't then you would have let go on that .01 and not have lost 1 btc in the process  Cool Break even mentality is a form of greed anyways.
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June 06, 2015, 02:39:00 AM
#49
I'd like to think myself as not very greedy, but I'll let people be the judge of that.

let's just say that I'll be very happy to win $10 every day.
sr. member
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June 06, 2015, 02:35:00 AM
#48
The only winners are the people that don't gamble.

And people who gamble with an edge

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People who gamble should always be aware that what they're doing isn't a long term money maker.

Thanks, i will keep that in mind ('gambling' for a living since 2006)

Very few people can win in the long run. For each that manages to do it, 1000 others ruin themselves by being too greedy.

And even big winner may lose everything by bad luck, and then what?
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June 06, 2015, 02:30:18 AM
#47
The only winners are the people that don't gamble.

And people who gamble with an edge

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People who gamble should always be aware that what they're doing isn't a long term money maker.

Thanks, i will keep that in mind ('gambling' for a living since 2006)

Really? Is it just enough to pay the bills and buy food or you could afford fancy stuff like vacatios vehicles and shiny new electronics?

It's all about the luck , also he most likely have a lot of cash now , so it dosen't matter if he lose when he gamble or not that's why and I guess when you are not afraid of losing money , you can simply gamble and stuff without getting afraid at all . just for fun just the user above said Grin
legendary
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June 06, 2015, 02:25:18 AM
#46
The only winners are the people that don't gamble.

And people who gamble with an edge

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People who gamble should always be aware that what they're doing isn't a long term money maker.

Thanks, i will keep that in mind ('gambling' for a living since 2006)

Really? Is it just enough to pay the bills and buy food or you could afford fancy stuff like vacatios vehicles and shiny new electronics?
sr. member
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June 05, 2015, 07:53:44 AM
#45
I was greedy on gambling and greed that always makes me lose.

maybe now I prefer greedy at giveaway  Grin
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June 05, 2015, 07:28:23 AM
#44
most of the gamblers are greedy . it depends on the people to play it the smart way to achieve their goals in earning money.
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June 05, 2015, 07:26:55 AM
#43
there are very rare success stories by gambling it always sucks in long time, i think i am not a greedy type of gambler i had started with giveaway amount on PD and turn that 0.01btc into 0.17btc in 10 minutes but busted there and after this made deposit to recover this but again happened same and overall i lost on PD over 1btc to recover 0.01 Tongue
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June 05, 2015, 07:25:19 AM
#42
I am not greedy at all although I have lost some money in BTC gambling but the battle is not over yet, the house have won the first few rounds but hey I am still standing and I am going for a KO. Cheesy

or the house will be the one delivering the KO.. remember that you still have the possibility of losing more.
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June 05, 2015, 07:11:03 AM
#41
I am not greedy at all although I have lost some money in BTC gambling but the battle is not over yet, the house have won the first few rounds but hey I am still standing and I am going for a KO. Cheesy
tyz
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June 05, 2015, 04:54:41 AM
#40
You need to learn to get the greedy under control. According to Warren Buffet “Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful”. My gredeo  Cheesy
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June 05, 2015, 03:07:21 AM
#39

Or in other words "variance is a bitch".

When Just-Dice first launched, I knew we had a 1% house edge, and was careful never to let the house risk more than 1% of its bankroll on any single bet, but still the bankroll took a hammering. After over a billion bets the site's profit was less than half of the expected 1%, and it was hard at tims to have the "toughness and discipling" to be confident in the long term outcome.

I can't imagine how much worse it would feel to be playing poker. Then you have so much more scope for self doubt to creep in. With the dice site I knew the odds were in the house's favour. Playing poker when you hit a losing streak it must be easy to start thinking "maybe I'm not as good as I thought I was; maybe I was just lucky before when I was winning" and such like.

Well, in Poker, after certain amount of experience, its quite easy to figure out if you were playing bad or running bad (and back it up with calculations).

Also, doubting your own play is actually a good thing - with the right attitude it motivates you to always work on your game and aim to become better.

Its actually much worse when someone is too arrogant to admit that his bad play caused the downswing. Quite a commong sight amongs "TV pros" - they are in delusion of being a top player, and they are "losing only because everyone else is always lucky"



But when it comes to running a dice site, there is really not much to worry about besides hacks that would nullify your edge. If i were in your position and would see a half of expected profit after a billion bets i would for sure become paranoid that there are some sort of leak in the system causing all this.
legendary
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June 05, 2015, 02:59:10 AM
#38
Wanted to know how greedy people actually are , I'am personally not into gambling with the real meaning to be honest
however I see a lot of my friends says "im stupid" and stuff like that , because they start earning a lot on the begining then they get greedy and lose basically all , does it happen to you ?
i won alot of money and i lost most of it on some stupid greed what gets me on a winning streak. i could be rich untill now but that greed always ruin me.. Sad
well shit happens and life goes on.. Smiley
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June 05, 2015, 02:19:43 AM
#37
I'd like to think that I play it smart, I guess the main rule in gambling is only bet what you can afford to lose.
I lost large amounts when I was younger & used to do stupid bets (fiat).
Too old for that now so I just bet for fun with small (ish) amounts.
Gambling can be like a drug so you need to stay sensible & always think before you confirm a bet.
Don't go chasing large wins, if it seems too good to be true then it probably is, sure we can all bet on a 100/1 horse but it's very unlikely to win.

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June 05, 2015, 01:21:57 AM
#36
The only winners are the people that don't gamble.
i guess more the ones who gamble with brains, the ones who stop playing while they are still in profit and dont do stupid bets


And who the hell does that?? And by the way there are no stupid or smart bets in dice, it doesnt matter what you bet, nothing is reaally better than anything else, you are just another gambling addict falling into the gamblers fallacy. No one goes to a casino to win a little profit and then never come back again.
as far as i understood he wasnt talking about dice, he was talking about gambling, and also i sometimes quit in time and dont gamble

As the user above me said , Dice is indded a form of Gambling mate just like Blackjack etc ...
Anyway , I just added a poll so I can follow you very well  Roll Eyes
legendary
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June 04, 2015, 04:32:49 PM
#35
I am greedy.  That is why I gamble for only small amounts.  If you want money gambling is about the dumbest thing you can do because if you don't stop the house will eventually win.

That's what I thought when I read the OP. If you're completely greedy and completely rational, you don't play -EV games. You do whatever maximises your expectation, and for most gambling games that means not playing them. Obviously there are a few exceptions, like countable blackjack, games with large progressive pots, games involving skill (poker, etc.) but for the vast majority of gambling games the smartest strategy for the greedy player is to walk away from them.

But when someone trully has the edge, BR management becomes crucial. I've known quite a bit of "good" poker players and bettors who went broke just because they only had the knowledge and expirience, without having the mental toughness and discipline to absorb the inevitable losses.

Its a pretty tough area to get better at. Exprience helps, but in the end, some people just cant deal with the net loss and can not avoid chasing.

Or in other words "variance is a bitch".

When Just-Dice first launched, I knew we had a 1% house edge, and was careful never to let the house risk more than 1% of its bankroll on any single bet, but still the bankroll took a hammering. After over a billion bets the site's profit was less than half of the expected 1%, and it was hard at tims to have the "toughness and discipling" to be confident in the long term outcome.

I can't imagine how much worse it would feel to be playing poker. Then you have so much more scope for self doubt to creep in. With the dice site I knew the odds were in the house's favour. Playing poker when you hit a losing streak it must be easy to start thinking "maybe I'm not as good as I thought I was; maybe I was just lucky before when I was winning" and such like.
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