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Bitcoin has been a decentralized digital currency built in a non-custodian blockchain invariably, the reveal of Satoshi Nakamoto's identity should be invalid just as we all the Bitcoin enthusiasts identities are not necessarily needed to the awareness of the public that we are Bitcoin investors.

Satoshi is like a goddess who travelled afar beyond the future, saw what was coming out of it as global inflations rocking nations after after and then he came up with the development of Bitcoin which at its launch and adoptions, it indeed really was what it was intended to be.

The government should really have to embrace the financial digital technology of Bitcoin invention because it has at all points provided measures to manage their financial regulatory system Such as financial transactions and also the fact that the financial digital technology having the potnetials that can productively provide incomes to which could confront the crisis of a global economy. Do with the above categorized, Bitcoin has come to live and conquering those loopholes financial related payments and transactions.

With all hands being on deck to Bitcoin Blockchains, all Bitcoin transactions is based on track living those  cyber fraudsters where to hide.
Hence.... Satoshi did not come with the ideo of Bitcoin development for his self interests of growing rich but to rescue the world from poverty and having the globe alternative means of payments as the central financial banks are full of excuses of ineligible procession of financial transactions.
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do you think they also got Satoshi's stash?

i have to believe if the US government knew him already then he could be under their watch all the time or he must have been detained underground already or buried under the desert. for the US  government, the world is just too small not to see everyone actually. the world is just like their small village with 7 houses.

I don't know all that. I don't even know if they really know satoshi's identity. I am just making an educated guess. The chances are they know it because their power has no limits compared to a single individual no matter how smart that individual is.

Satoshi does not control bitcoin and bitcoin is controlled by the community, so whether there is Satoshi or not, bitcoin will still operate in a decentralized.

satoshi owns 1 million btc. If those coins move, it will be catastrophic.

We all think and act like satoshi's coins aren't there. Like they are lost coins. If they move, we'll know then somebody can dump it on the markets. People will panic sell. Bitcoin might not recover from it again. 1 million coins we are talking about here. The devs will have to do a hard fork to prevent this probably and forge a new chain where satoshi blocks don't exist.

Even if the main dev team (core) don't do it, some miners can form a minority chain like how they did it with bcash years ago. Either way it won't be good. Again it will create another war.

Team 1: We are betrayed, satoshi  betrayed us!!!
Team 2: This is the original chain, satoshi has to eat as much as anybodie!!
If BTC drops down to $1000, some people will buy the dip.

On the other hand, tons of miners will be forced out of business... maybe GPU mining will become profitable again, who knows.
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do you think they also got Satoshi's stash?

i have to believe if the US government knew him already then he could be under their watch all the time or he must have been detained underground already or buried under the desert. for the US  government, the world is just too small not to see everyone actually. the world is just like their small village with 7 houses.

I don't know all that. I don't even know if they really know satoshi's identity. I am just making an educated guess. The chances are they know it because their power has no limits compared to a single individual no matter how smart that individual is.

Satoshi does not control bitcoin and bitcoin is controlled by the community, so whether there is Satoshi or not, bitcoin will still operate in a decentralized.

satoshi owns 1 million btc. If those coins move, it will be catastrophic.

We all think and act like satoshi's coins aren't there. Like they are lost coins. If they move, we'll know then somebody can dump it on the markets. People will panic sell. Bitcoin might not recover from it again. 1 million coins we are talking about here. The devs will have to do a hard fork to prevent this probably and forge a new chain where satoshi blocks don't exist.

Even if the main dev team (core) don't do it, some miners can form a minority chain like how they did it with bcash years ago. Either way it won't be good. Again it will create another war.

Team 1: We are betrayed, satoshi  betrayed us!!!
Team 2: This is the original chain, satoshi has to eat as much as anybodie!!
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You never know how much wealth I have accumulated as long as I never tell you, that's the logic. As long as he never tells anyone that he is Satoshi, his identity remains safe and he will remain anonymous. Satoshi had predicted that the worst would happen because he had opposed the financial system that had been set up by the state to enslave its people, he would not leave the slightest trace that could reveal his identity. Time flies so fast, Bitcoin has existed for more than a decade, so don't ever worry about Satoshi's safety because so far no one has been able to find Satoshi's real identity, including the FBI or other intelligence services.

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However, Satoshi did use an account on this forum, along with an email address. All connections to this forum logged his IP address/user-agent and other digital traces.
You can't do much with an IP address. It could be the IP address of a Tor exit node. Or perhaps another pro-anonymity protocol. Or VPN. Or maybe Satoshi just used to go on coffee-shops with free Wi-Fi to code or/and write forum posts. Or a combination of everything mentioned.

He probably just used Tor though. That's the safest approach.



By the way, Satoshi is not the only person in the cryptographic community who's remained anonymous. Monero's core development team is mostly consisted of anonymous people, like van Saberhagen and thankful_for_today. Today's anonymity protocols probably provide sufficient anonymity.
Internet Cafes were very popular in 2008. I remember that local internet cafes had no security cameras, were pretty expensive, the local government didn't have knowledgeable IT staff and I believe it would be super easy to be anonymous in 2008 than it is today.
It was just the right time and the right place for him to create a successful cryptocurrency and remain anonymous but it's really impressive that things stayed unknown for such a long period of time.

The general public still don’t have that information but somehow I believe the US government already knows everything about him. The thing is, sharing that info with us won’t benefit them (for now) so they are keeping it secret. The gov owns all the domains and the internet infrastructure. It is impossible to stay anonymous against the gov forever.

Maybe one day we will learn who Satoshi was but when that day comes, they’ll do that to achieve something else. Maybe create panic in the markets? Destroy bitcoin? Dump and pump? I don’t know, but something important will take place when it happens.
I think they don't know who Satoshi is or if they know they killed him or an unpopular opinion, the US agencies created Bitcoin.
I personally think that Satoshi wasn't wanted years ago, governments didn't really care about who created Bitcoin, and it only became mainstream and popular in 2016. Till 2016, satoshi had 8 years of unpopularity. No one keeps logs for 8 years, especially in 2008 when the internet was a new thing and the web wasn't as advanced as it is today, so I think that if we summarize all the services he used, most of his logs aren't kept and what's kept isn't enough to reveal his identity.

I think that Satoshi is the most self-disciplined guy. He didn't use his Bitcoins, never made a transaction and never took a single cent from the millions of dollars that his wallet keeps. He also never came back to the forum and he probably doesn't talk about Bitcoin in public and with his friends but to be fair, that's impossible too. Someone would have known his interest and expressions in cryptography and he shouldn't be able to hide it today when cryptocurrencies are mainstream. While I want him to be alive and to know who he is, my brain tells me that he is dead and that's why things are kept as secret till this day and forever.
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Even with current anonymization technologies, the most prominent cybercriminals/activists get caught.
Yes, the cybercriminals get caught because they are criminals and they do something which harms others while Satoshi Nakamoto made something that has changed the world and that's why he's still safe from anyone's hands.


I totally agree. But Satoshi's technology challenges financial institutions, and I believe they employ the same, if not more, resources to track him as they do to catch criminals. In any case, this story is fascinating.
it is their right to employ someone to track Satoshi but like what said in your quoted post , Satoshi done nothing for them to treat as criminal unless they will put wrong charges against him/her.
but for me? the man is clear and should not be hunted and i also believe that Satoshi's creation will be thankful from generation in the future.
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The general public still don’t have that information but somehow I believe the US government already knows everything about him. The thing is, sharing that info with us won’t benefit them (for now) so they are keeping it secret. The gov owns all the domains and the internet infrastructure. It is impossible to stay anonymous against the gov forever.

Maybe one day we will learn who satoshi was but when that day comes, they’ll do that to achieve something else. Maybe create panic in the markets? Destroy bitcoin? Dump and pump? I don’t know, but something important will take place when it happens.

do you think they also got Satoshi's stash?

i have to believe if the US government knew him already then he could be under their watch all the time or he must have been detained underground already or buried under the desert. for the US  government, the world is just too small not to see everyone actually. the world is just like their small village with 7 houses.
But I want to ask you, what is the purpose of the United States government burying him underground or keeping him in the darkest places on earth? Why do they do it when it doesn't benefit them? We should stop under the illusion that the US government is urgently hunting him down or will torture and execute him if Satoshi's true identity is discovered. Because that brings no benefit and changes nothing for bitcoin. Satoshi does not control bitcoin and bitcoin is controlled by the community, so whether there is Satoshi or not, bitcoin will still operate in a decentralized.

We are people who like to imagine, like to come up with thrilling theories like crime movies, we have no evidence that the US government is hunting to convict him.
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The general public still don’t have that information but somehow I believe the US government already knows everything about him. The thing is, sharing that info with us won’t benefit them (for now) so they are keeping it secret. The gov owns all the domains and the internet infrastructure. It is impossible to stay anonymous against the gov forever.

Maybe one day we will learn who satoshi was but when that day comes, they’ll do that to achieve something else. Maybe create panic in the markets? Destroy bitcoin? Dump and pump? I don’t know, but something important will take place when it happens.

do you think they also got Satoshi's stash?

i have to believe if the US government knew him already then he could be under their watch all the time or he must have been detained underground already or buried under the desert. for the US  government, the world is just too small not to see everyone actually. the world is just like their small village with 7 houses.
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The general public still don’t have that information but somehow I believe the US government already knows everything about him. The thing is, sharing that info with us won’t benefit them (for now) so they are keeping it secret. The gov owns all the domains and the internet infrastructure. It is impossible to stay anonymous against the gov forever.

Maybe one day we will learn who satoshi was but when that day comes, they’ll do that to achieve something else. Maybe create panic in the markets? Destroy bitcoin? Dump and pump? I don’t know, but something important will take place when it happens.
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You have to put yourself back into the time when Satoshi was still around, to understand how it was back then. The people working on a new currency, did this in secret.. because governments hunted them to arrest them.

Those guys were not your average script kiddie.  They are experts in Cryptography and they operated on other forums that did not track people and also kept no logs of their actions. (That was before Bitcointalk.org were used)

Satoshi only raised "red" flags.. after he posted the white paper and when it became evident to the 3letter agencies that he was succesful with his attempt to replace Fiat currencies.
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Hello,

I'm wondering how Satoshi has managed to remain anonymous. Governments and high-level institutions have expressed interest in knowing his identity, and some have even tried to employ significant resources to find him, as evidenced by certain news reports.

However, Satoshi did use an account on this forum, along with an email address. All connections to this forum logged his IP address/user-agent and other digital traces.

His emails also surfaced during Craig Wright's trial. How is it that the email provider does not have IP and other information? Even behind a VPN, I believe that major institutions have the means to request the real IP from the VPN provider.

I don't want his identity to be revealed ! But I'm simply wondering how he has managed to evade the most powerful entities since 2010. Even with current anonymization technologies, the most prominent cybercriminals/activists get caught.

Forgive me if this topic has been covered or if it seems silly to you, but I am amazed by the myth of Satoshi

Forget this, no one will find nakamoto ever again, he isn't a criminal after all, if he was do you think that those fake Nakamoto will come out and pretend to be the original? Who tried to come out in the open and claim that he is a criminal? These fake people are trying so hard to be the real Bitcoin creator because what Nakamoto build is Outstanding.

Satoshi Nakamoto is from the future, he knew how to stay out of sight and leave no traces behinds, criminals are criminals and he isn't one, he created something very useful for the world is all.

Satoshi Nakamoto is the true decentralisation practitioner that I know, if anyone wants to build a decentralisation system on the blockchain or somewhere else, they need to leave no traces behind, just like what Satoshi Nakamoto did, this is thr only way that decentralization can work in this world.
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The account wasn't that active for long and most of the posts that he's got came from the original forum before this one, I think it was sourceforge or something like that, he's basically not present for long when this forum was established. The reason why his identity wasn't revealed is probably for the reason that he's smart and he knows how to hide his tracks on the Internet at that time which is pretty easy to do if you know what you're doing. Another reason that I can think of why it's never been revealed is because it's a legacy thing and the people close to Satoshi are probably the right people that respects that legacy and they don't want to reveal who he or she is because they know that once it's revealed, it demystifies everything surrounding the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto which most often what happens to mysteries getting solved.
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Satoshi's identity has not been revealed until now. You can imagine that Satoshi is someone who is such a genius. How could it not be that when Satoshi created Bitcoin, Satoshi was already thinking about hiding his identity and what is very important is the content of Satoshi's thoughts, how will the next generation develop and be able to protect his wallet? Until now, no one has can hack it
Don't you know that if the identity of SATOSHI is eventually revealed, it is going to affect the price of Bitcoin and other cryptos in the market. He is quite a genius which and he was able to hide his identity so that people would have more confidence in investing in the cryptocurrency market. This has brought huge confidence to the entire market that people are now ready to keep all their investments in Bitcoin because they know that it is going to be profitable for them in a long run.
will just by hiding your identity the price of bitcoin go down? I don't think that's what Satoshi's goal was, there must be another, more important reason for Satoshi that his identity hasn't been revealed until now. I even thought about the name Satoshi, whether it's a person or a group, maybe the group that created Bitcoin and named the inventor Satoshi, mysterious...
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The fact that governments and high official have looked for all possible means to track Satoshi Nakamoto but haven't been able to reveal his true identity is really amazing.Satoshi Nakamoto knew well to himself that his identity won't be known to the world before the invention of Bitcoin.Satoshi Nakamoto is a man of wisdom,he made the platform a decentralized one and that wasn't enough he remained anonymous.Don't you think if Satoshi Nakamoto reveal himself to the world Bitcoin wouldn't have been till date because the government might tell him to terminate his invention,so his state of anonymity is of our benefit.
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Satoshi's identity has not been revealed until now. You can imagine that Satoshi is someone who is such a genius. How could it not be that when Satoshi created Bitcoin, Satoshi was already thinking about hiding his identity and what is very important is the content of Satoshi's thoughts, how will the next generation develop and be able to protect his wallet? Until now, no one has can hack it
Don't you know that if the identity of SATOSHI is eventually revealed, it is going to affect the price of Bitcoin and other cryptos in the market. He is quite a genius which and he was able to hide his identity so that people would have more confidence in investing in the cryptocurrency market. This has brought huge confidence to the entire market that people are now ready to keep all their investments in Bitcoin because they know that it is going to be profitable for them in a long run.
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Hello,

I'm wondering how Satoshi has managed to remain anonymous. Governments and high-level institutions have expressed interest in knowing his identity, and some have even tried to employ significant resources to find him, as evidenced by certain news reports.

However, Satoshi did use an account on this forum, along with an email address. All connections to this forum logged his IP address/user-agent and other digital traces.


I don't want his identity to be revealed ! But I'm simply wondering how he has managed to evade the most powerful entities since 2010. Even with current anonymization technologies, the most prominent cybercriminals/activists get caught.

Forgive me if this topic has been covered or if it seems silly to you, but I am amazed by the myth of Satoshi
You don't want his identity to be revealed op, but you are asking why his identity is not revealed yet, Satoshi Nakamoto plan everything well because he knew that things like this will come up for people to be seeking the down fall of BTC, which is what many people are looking for to know Satoshi Nakamoto identity. 

I know you want to know some things about Satoshi Nakamoto history, everything you see around Satoshi Nakamoto was well planned to make sure BTC fulfilled her purpose on earth, which is the evidence we are seeing around the world.

All the power is in the hands of Satoshi Nakamoto, to destroy BTC and to make BTC stronger in the world because no governments or countries have the power to control BTC which are some of the foundation Satoshi Nakamoto has lay in BTC for you and i to enjoy the benefits of BTC.
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We know that he/they was/were using Tor, shy, cautious, and had enough experience to hide his identity, and what helped Satoshi is that talking about Bitcoin and interest in it began in 2013, 3 years after his disappearance, and it is difficult to find a service that records junk data for 3 years.

It was 2009-2010, not 2024. If Satoshi started Bitcoin today, it would be difficult for him to hide his identity.
Yeah and Satoshi won't be called as the legendary founder if he/she/they just feed us all with his/her/their credentials and identity. He has been active here on this forum then hes gone through silence. I know a lot of people are trying to track the legend but I don't know if they successfully made it but seems impossible as there is no revelation yet. Though some fake guy appeared but cannot provide solid proof of Satoshi. I am also wondering why the heck does Satoshi need to appear if it's appearance would endanger his entire life including his family?
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Satoshi's identity has not been revealed until now. You can imagine that Satoshi is someone who is such a genius. How could it not be that when Satoshi created Bitcoin, Satoshi was already thinking about hiding his identity and what is very important is the content of Satoshi's thoughts, how will the next generation develop and be able to protect his wallet? Until now, no one has can hack it
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This is exactly why ChatGPT copy/pasters should be banned from the forum:

They were able to develop Bitcoin, a groundbreaking technology, which suggests a deep understanding of anonymity and privacy-enhancing techniques.

Uh, no it does not. The blockchain is a public ledger and doesn't necessarily have anything to do with anonymity.

5. Community Respect for Anonymity: The Bitcoin community has generally respected Satoshi's wish for anonymity. Despite curiosity about their identity, there has been little concerted effort within the community to unveil it.

Hah. Members of this forum have spent a combined hundreds or even thousands of hours investigating who Satoshi is or might be.

It's important to note that while Satoshi's identity remains unknown,

It's also important to note that any post that ends with the phrase "It's important to note" in the last paragraph means that the post was written by ChatGPT.
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It's indeed a fascinating topic! Satoshi Nakamoto's ability to maintain anonymity despite the immense interest and resources dedicated to uncovering their identity is quite remarkable. There are several factors that may have contributed to this:

1. Technical Savvy: Satoshi was evidently highly skilled in cryptography, computer science, and networking. They were able to develop Bitcoin, a groundbreaking technology, which suggests a deep understanding of anonymity and privacy-enhancing techniques.

2. Operational Security (OpSec): Satoshi took precautions to conceal their identity from the outset. This likely involved using pseudonyms, such as "Satoshi Nakamoto," and employing methods to obfuscate their digital footprint.

3. Decentralized Nature of Bitcoin: Bitcoin operates on a decentralized network, which means there is no central authority controlling it. This decentralization makes it difficult for any single entity to uncover Satoshi's identity by tracing transactions or network activity.

4. Use of Common Tools: While Satoshi did use forums and email to communicate, they may have taken steps to mitigate the risk of identification, such as using generic email providers and possibly masking their IP address through tools like VPNs or Tor.

5. Community Respect for Anonymity: The Bitcoin community has generally respected Satoshi's wish for anonymity. Despite curiosity about their identity, there has been little concerted effort within the community to unveil it.

6. Legal and Jurisdictional Challenges: Even if governments or institutions were interested in unmasking Satoshi, legal and jurisdictional challenges would complicate any investigation. Without clear evidence of wrongdoing, the legal basis for such an investigation may be weak.

It's important to note that while Satoshi's identity remains unknown, their creation, Bitcoin, has become a transformative technology with a vast ecosystem and community built around it. The mystery surrounding Satoshi adds to the allure of Bitcoin and underscores the idea that it truly is a decentralized and global phenomenon.
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