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March 08, 2019, 03:08:41 AM
#27
I would to site you an example, just recently    bustadice signature campaign(FULL) had an opening of a member rank but instead of hiring a member,   yahoo62278 did hire a Legendary for a 25$ per week which suppose he will be receiving 100$/week at the current rate, and in    his past campaign he is receiving BTC0.015 per week which is equivalent to $58 and that's even half of what he is receiving now.

I don't quite get what you're saying here: the guy took a >50% pay cut, or his 0.015 BTC campaign expired?

Its true that campaigns are also in a bear market, along with BTC, but its not unreasonable that BTC will triple in price before the year's end, which would make them relatively profitable.
The other reason maybe bustadice is one of the longest running campaign so the user participating on it no need to worry about the campaign is ending in near soon,if there is a vacant spot for his rank then he may get swapped until that getting $25 everyweek makes sense.

Yep, I'm nothing to say about for this reason because I think that a lot of people Read this topic but no response, It can one day be very bad or bigger, One day lower rank people will do a lot of good work but they will get their status,  I think it should be a solution, As if he could not apply anything other than his own place.

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March 07, 2019, 09:39:09 AM
#26
I would to site you an example, just recently    bustadice signature campaign(FULL) had an opening of a member rank but instead of hiring a member,  yahoo62278 did hire a Legendary for a 25$ per week which suppose he will be receiving 100$/week at the current rate, and in    his past campaign he is receiving BTC0.015 per week which is equivalent to $58 and that's even half of what he is receiving now.

I don't quite get what you're saying here: the guy took a >50% pay cut, or his 0.015 BTC campaign expired?

Its true that campaigns are also in a bear market, along with BTC, but its not unreasonable that BTC will triple in price before the year's end, which would make them relatively profitable.
The other reason maybe bustadice is one of the longest running campaign so the user participating on it no need to worry about the campaign is ending in near soon,if there is a vacant spot for his rank then he may get swapped until that getting $25 everyweek makes sense.
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March 07, 2019, 09:34:24 AM
#25
~snip~

I don't quite get what you're saying here: the guy took a >50% pay cut, or his 0.015 BTC campaign expired?

~snip~

I was just referring to his previous campaign, and with a Legendary account I guess he can still make around 0.015 BTC weekly ( estimate only) on the existing campaign now which is more than 50% of his current pay rate when converted to the current exchange rate. (BTC/USD)

To make it simple and short, my explanation is simply to tell everyone that it's not unfair if a high rank member will be given a lower spot in a campaign.
legendary
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March 07, 2019, 09:21:37 AM
#24
I would to site you an example, just recently    bustadice signature campaign(FULL) had an opening of a member rank but instead of hiring a member,  yahoo62278 did hire a Legendary for a 25$ per week which suppose he will be receiving 100$/week at the current rate, and in    his past campaign he is receiving BTC0.015 per week which is equivalent to $58 and that's even half of what he is receiving now.

I don't quite get what you're saying here: the guy took a >50% pay cut, or his 0.015 BTC campaign expired?

Its true that campaigns are also in a bear market, along with BTC, but its not unreasonable that BTC will triple in price before the year's end, which would make them relatively profitable.
hero member
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March 07, 2019, 08:11:31 AM
#23
I also noticed that, and take note signature campaign manager are not called bounty manager, IMO bounty manager are those who pay in altcoins or tokens during the ICO, just to make it more accurate.

I've been in the forum since 2016 and I never see this things happening before, this simply means that there's a shortage of campaign because there are a lot of accounts looking for signature campaign, these would not happen if bounty is still profitable but unfortunately it's not anymore.

So, to answer the question if it's legit or not, I guess there's no problem with that since it's not against the forum rules and the manager can make it's own rules, revise the existing one at any time he wish to do, of course as long as in conformance with the forum rules.

Now, I understand your sentiment that low rank accounts that are already in the campaign and those who are applying might loss their opportunity to be part and to upgrade in pay in case a spot opens up. IMHO, there is a disadvantage for the high rank also since they will receive a lower rate compared to the rate they are supposed to, so it's an even game.

I would to site you an example, just recently    bustadice signature campaign(FULL) had an opening of a member rank but instead of hiring a member,  yahoo62278 did hire a Legendary for a 25$ per week which suppose he will be receiving 100$/week at the current rate, and in    his past campaign he is receiving BTC0.015 per week which is equivalent to $58 and that's even half of what he is receiving now.

member
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March 06, 2019, 08:32:31 PM
#22
But is it not self-contradictory as s/he will mention one type of rank and then will take from another rank?
No, there is no contradiction as both parties, manager and participant, have no problem with it.
After all, a signature designed for a low ranked member will show properly on the profile of a higher ranked member. The opposite is not true.

I think the campaign manager will take from any other rank. But what will s/he will do if legendary rank is blank? Will s/he take from lower rank? If s/he will not take from lower rank, then s/he will take from an upper rank of a lower rank slot?
If no legendary applies for the position then the manager can open more slots on lower ranks postion accirding to his bugget.
Okey, Just I want to know that when one slot open member rank position so that why apply a Legendary for this slot? or already a lot of member rank position member still now so why a manager can approve the legendary member?

Note: I think it is an injustice on lower rank people
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March 06, 2019, 02:18:36 PM
#21
Its true that when a higher rank member apply for a lower rank then obviously lower rank members lose their chances to be accepted. But from my view its totally depends on campaign manager decision to take them or not.
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March 06, 2019, 09:04:26 AM
#20
I do agree with you, but I also don't understand why a Hero / Legendary would want to fill the spot, because if they searched around for a few minutes they could likely easily find something that pays much better (even in terms of tokens).

Perhaps high ranking accounts that apply for such positions are bought or hacked. Having invested years in the forum, I know I wouldn't settle for something like that.

Or a person with 50+ accounts can easily spread them out on several campaigns with fewer problems without looking the appropriate rank..
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March 06, 2019, 08:54:03 AM
#19
But is it not self-contradictory as s/he will mention one type of rank and then will take from another rank?
No, there is no contradiction as both parties, manager and participant, have no problem with it.
After all, a signature designed for a low ranked member will show properly on the profile of a higher ranked member. The opposite is not true.

I think the campaign manager will take from any other rank. But what will s/he will do if legendary rank is blank? Will s/he take from lower rank? If s/he will not take from lower rank, then s/he will take from an upper rank of a lower rank slot?
If no legendary applies for the position then the manager can open more spots on lower ranks postion accirding to his bugget.
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March 06, 2019, 08:23:29 AM
#18
I do think the same. I don't think there are campaign managers that are selecting someone based on ranks. It's quality in the end that matters.
To be honest I haven't seen managers have chosen different rank user for open slot during initial selection. May be I am missing something, so not sure about it. Mostly case I have seen it is happening during running campaign if someone got removed or left. So this is really different case. We should not compare it with initial selection. I believe all managers enough transparent during selection time. So let them do thier job. Also projects authority monitor campaign perhaps they also support this kind of case. So magners have to maintain everything.

Although apply for lower rank isn't wise decision but something is better than nothing. ( This is the thought who are applying)

@OP have you seen this kind of case on initial selection? If yes, then it's also not wise decision by managers although they have right to select anyone.
legendary
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March 06, 2019, 07:34:05 AM
#17
I do agree with you, but I also don't understand why a Hero / Legendary would want to fill the spot, because if they searched around for a few minutes they could likely easily find something that pays much better (even in terms of tokens).

Perhaps high ranking accounts that apply for such positions are bought or hacked. Having invested years in the forum, I know I wouldn't settle for something like that.
legendary
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March 06, 2019, 06:21:28 AM
#16
IMO campaign managers should give priority to list of users who actually are in that rank over higher ranks who applied.


I think managers always give priority to good poster in order to maintain quality campaign. So they have right to choose participant accordingly.

I do think the same. I don't think there are campaign managers that are selecting someone based on ranks. It's quality in the end that matters.
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March 06, 2019, 05:47:21 AM
#15
I really hate this thing especially when we have more than 1 rank of difference.

Every manager can do whatever they want but everyone should have the possibility to participate.

Is so funny to me that the more I dig on bitcoin signature, the more rings I find, I'm starting to thinking that a lot of people has a lot of accounts on bitcoins signatures.
(none pays me for do this and I takes a lot of time so I probably stop soon or later)
sr. member
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March 06, 2019, 05:43:40 AM
#14
Most of the time it was by the participant 'permission' that they're okay with being paid on lower rank rates.
It is self-contradictory as the slot opened for another rank.
It's the self-discretion of the signature campaign manager to whether accept or not the high ranking members to a lower spot in the campaign for as long as they meet the rules and requirements, if they're over qualified when it comes to ranking then it's more favorable to the campaign itself and besides not all high ranking are quality/good poster, it's all about the fair judgement of the manager so it's legit.
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March 06, 2019, 03:54:08 AM
#13
Since it's not forum related I think Reputation board appropriate for this thread. So all managers will see and they could input on your thread.

I don't think it's wrong, if a higher rank agree to join with low payment and manager agree to accept him then nothing wrong with it. Obviously managers choose best candidates always, like someone Sr. Member and good poster as well then manager will try to engage with him. So may be participant will get appropriate slot in future. Regarding new participants, as well you know it's not hard to find. Because if somewhere only open 1 slot many people's are applying there.

I think managers always give priority to good poster in order to maintain quality campaign. So they have right to choose participant accordingly.
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March 06, 2019, 03:00:48 AM
#12
First of all,this has nothing to do with the forum so the right place for this thread to be discussed is Service Discussion.

Everything is okay based on the person who is managing that campaign,so let it to be decided by the campaign manager itself to select what rank for the open slot they have on their campaign.
member
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March 06, 2019, 02:07:25 AM
#11
Though it's the campaign manager's choice to get whoever he wants, i too feel it's unfair for the lower ranked members especially if they have tried to apply too.
Higher ranked members should only be considered if there are no eligible lower ranked members of that particular spot who have applied, otherwise why would a campaign manager announce open lower ranked member spots yet when it comes to selection they favor higher ranked members for the same spots?
It doesn't make sense. Why not just make only higher member spots if lower ranks are not preferred for the campaign?

But hey like i say again. It's the CM's personal choice.

It's pretty standard that high rankers top the priority list. But not just between the ranks, the same tends to apply for those who have more merits on the same level.

Yep, When any campaign manager mentioned that only one slot and specific rank, so why a lot of higher rank member apply to submit this campaign, people are the fool? people are the uneducated? Or do they not see what there is to say?
If the elders are taken then why boys will not be taken? That's the only reason they're lower rank?
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March 06, 2019, 01:36:16 AM
#10
Though it's the campaign manager's choice to get whoever he wants, i too feel it's unfair for the lower ranked members especially if they have tried to apply too.
Higher ranked members should only be considered if there are no eligible lower ranked members of that particular spot who have applied, otherwise why would a campaign manager announce open lower ranked member spots yet when it comes to selection they favor higher ranked members for the same spots?
It doesn't make sense. Why not just make only higher member spots if lower ranks are not preferred for the campaign?

But hey like i say again. It's the CM's personal choice.

It's pretty standard that high rankers top the priority list. But not just between the ranks, the same tends to apply for those who have more merits on the same level.
member
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March 06, 2019, 01:32:30 AM
#9
Selection of participants fully depends on the bounty manager. It's up to him if he wants to consider a higher level account for a lower level postion in his campaign.

As per I think its a smart way of selecting participants, if there are no eligible participants for a lower level posting in signature campaign than it is better to hire a higher level at same payment rates. Some of the advantages accepting higher level accounts are.

1. firstly its good for the project as they will get advertised by a higher level member at lower rates.

2. Helps bounty manager to fill up all the position if there are not much eligible participants for a specific rank.

3. Gives opportunity to some members who, don't get a spot in higher level position. ( its better than nothing )

4. Better alterative to hiring a spammer.

By considering some of the above reasons, it's rather a good approach to consider a higher level participate for a lower level spot.
okay, now If I agree with you so are you go to school and admit class one(1) it is like you? I think your answer may be not because you are an adult man, so why you like class one(1) position?
sr. member
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March 06, 2019, 01:28:27 AM
#8
why not opening post only for legendary as there is a lot of legendary ranked people?

It's not like, there are lot of legendary but if a campaign gets higher level participants at lower rate, it's good for them. Any camping has a fixed budget and if it puts all the legendary positions eligible it would have to increase the budget too for no reason as they are already getting legendaries at lower pay rates.

I think accepting higher ranked people instead of exact rank is nothing but only the exploitation of lower ranked people.

Yes, it can exploit some opportunities for lower level members, but a person who runs a campaign and pays funds from his pocket would never consider this, he would rather go with accepting higher positions for lower rank pay rates.


okay, now If I agree with you so are you go to school and admit class one(1) it is like you? I think your answer may be not because you are an adult man, so why you like class one(1) position?
No one would force you to got to class one (1) if you are an adult, and it goes same here no one would force a legendary to join a member level position, its totally there choice and some of them happily accepted lower spots.
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