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Topic: How long would it take for Anarchy to start working? - page 23. (Read 16377 times)

legendary
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Animals don't kill each other for fun, they kill each other for food.

Humans kill each other for fun and for materialistic gain, for the destruction of our home.  Having an elite group of sociopaths is a man made system.

Society can't even get along with Laws, it would be worse without them.
We would still have the law of nature, the law of attraction, karma, what ever you would like to call it.  Do you really need the government to tell you not to kill people or can you fathom that piece of moral code by yourself?

Yes - you do really need the law and the police to stop people being killed and robbed.  Couple of years ago in London there was a riot and the Police let it be known that they would only be protecting life - not property.  Within 6 hours, people were being burnt out of their homes, there was widespread looting and people were beaten to death in the streets within 48 hours.

That's the law of nature.  Our legal systems are a collective effort to have something better.
legendary
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Imposition of ORder = Escalation of Chaos
Anarchy would never ever ever work.  Human nature is not anarchical but hierarchical.   

LoL. Human nature. You know what human nature is? It is ADAPTABILITY. We can be anarchic or authoritarian and all sorts of things in between. But don't you ever think this can never change, or is somehow programmed into us before we are born. We respond to environmental conditions and develop accordingly.
sr. member
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Society can't even get along with Laws, it would be worse without them.

Anarchists don't advocate living without laws.
sr. member
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Anarchy would never ever ever work.  Human nature is not anarchical but hierarchical.   

That's fine if they pick their hierarchies.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
Do you really need the government to tell you not to kill people or can you fathom that piece of moral code by yourself?

Do you really need the forum policemen to tell you not to steal from people or can you fathom that piece of moral code by yourself?
Police are corrupt, you are corrupt, I guess the shoe fits.

Well, I do share the majority of the values a police officer would, so thank you.   Smiley
legendary
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You cannot kill love
Do you really need the government to tell you not to kill people or can you fathom that piece of moral code by yourself?

Do you really need the forum policemen to tell you not to steal from people or can you fathom that piece of moral code by yourself?
Police are corrupt, you are corrupt, I guess the shoe fits.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1003
Society can't even get along with Laws, it would be worse without them.

Anarchism is not without laws; it's the only form of governance where everyone has to follow them, in fact.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
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Licking my boob since 1970
Do you really need the government to tell you not to kill people or can you fathom that piece of moral code by yourself?

Do you really need the forum policemen to tell you not to steal from people or can you fathom that piece of moral code by yourself?
legendary
Activity: 1134
Merit: 1002
You cannot kill love
Animals don't kill each other for fun, they kill each other for food.

Humans kill each other for fun and for materialistic gain, for the destruction of our home.  Having an elite group of sociopaths is a man made system.

Society can't even get along with Laws, it would be worse without them.
We would still have the law of nature, the law of attraction, karma, what ever you would like to call it.  Do you really need the government to tell you not to kill people or can you fathom that piece of moral code by yourself?
full member
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Anarchy would never ever ever work.  Human nature is not anarchical but hierarchical.   
What's natural about tyranny?

You mean like whats natural in predator animals killing others for fun?


that is completly natural as we can see. Only human behavior is not natural.

Nature is perfect and it has no errors. ONly error is human
newbie
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Anarchy would never ever ever work.  Human nature is not anarchical but hierarchical.   
What's natural about tyranny?

You mean like whats natural in predator animals killing others for fun?
legendary
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Fill Your Barrel with Bitcoins!
Society can't even get along with Laws, it would be worse without them.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1003
Anarchy would never ever ever work.  Human nature is not anarchical but hierarchical.   

Ahh, the human nature fallacy...gotta love it Grin

I follow Darwinism (aka Science) - so, logically, humans are a kind of animal and our behaviour is a consequence of genetics.
I do not believe there is anything special about hierarchies, except as a description of one type of animal's social organization.
But the test is survival, and it seems that people survive based on their ability to raise children, rather than the ideology they happen to prescribe to at arbitrary point in history (unless that ideology limits/improves their ability to pass on their genes)

I would have to agree with you there; the animals which survive are those most adaptable, and humans aren't a whole lot if not the ultimate adapting creature.  I just don't believe we should identify something humans are doing, e.g. killing for gain, as something within human nature, while something else humans are doing, e.g. acting out of free will, as something completely unnatural; it would seem to me, if humans are doing it, it is within the nature of humans to do so.
hero member
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Anarchy would never ever ever work.  Human nature is not anarchical but hierarchical.  

Ahh, the human nature fallacy...gotta love it Grin

I follow Darwinism (aka Science) - so, logically, humans are a kind of animal and our behaviour is a consequence of genetics.
I do not believe there is anything special about hierarchies, except as a description of one type of animal's social organization.
But the test is survival, and it seems that people survive based on their ability to raise children, rather than the ideology they happen to prescribe to at arbitrary points in history (unless that ideology limits/improves their ability to pass on their genes)
legendary
Activity: 1134
Merit: 1002
You cannot kill love
Anarchy would never ever ever work.  Human nature is not anarchical but hierarchical.   
What's natural about tyranny?
legendary
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About 2000 years, that's how long it took to go from tribal feudalism to representative democracy.
People living back then might call our living conditions anarchy, if they knew what the word meant.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1003
Anarchy would never ever ever work.  Human nature is not anarchical but hierarchical.   

Ahh, the human nature fallacy...gotta love it Grin
newbie
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Anarchy would never ever ever work.  Human nature is not anarchical but hierarchical.   
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1003
As long as it takes until people learn how to look after themselves.
legendary
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ErisDiscordia is right, to be honest, the main issue people have ever had throughout history is how to stop others from controlling the flow of money and how it is traded etc. monarchs have been struggling with the idea for years and so have religions, it's only until now that I've seen a realistic method like Bitcoin capable of stopping it all.
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