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Topic: How Many Bitcoiners are Mentally Ill? (Read 8761 times)

legendary
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March 07, 2015, 03:57:44 AM
Well, I suffer from depression and loneliness, but my multipool is going live tomorrow so I got that going for me which is nice.

What multipool is this? Want to share it with us for us to check it out? Cheesy
legendary
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March 07, 2015, 03:52:09 AM
Just briefly glancing through here it seems like anywhere from 15-25% could be diagnosed as morbidly paranoid, with 5% of that as full bore schizophrenia. There's also a great deal of mania in this forum, with the other subforums exhibiting mania/depression or both depending on the subject. It's difficult to parse through a forum but it just seems like an unusually large number of posters here are suffering from some combination of narcissistic/victim personality disorder, either resulting from social isolation, autism spectrum diseases, substance abuse (perhaps bitcoin's primary use) or PTSD.

Has anyone elucidated the link between bitcoin and mental illness? How many people here got involved in bitcoin because you couldn't function in the normal economy, or in society at large? I'm seriously asking because the idea of a currency that specifically draws the unstable members of society is fascinating from a social psychology perspective. There are certainly a very high number of sociopaths leading the bitcoin community (which explains the continuous scams and thefts of the beta member resources). Anyway if there are any normal members here you might want to commission a social worker to survey this forum for potential suicide/homicide risks or a psych researcher to try to and determine what factors of the bitcoin system are selecting for dredges. Cheers!  Grin

What made you say so? Most sockpuppets suffer from multiple personality disorders, in case you didn't know.
hero member
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March 07, 2015, 03:39:52 AM

The only correlation that can be done is if you assume that many bitcoiners are also gamblers (which is commonly concerned an addiction).

A very correct assumption, but in a sense aren't all bitcoiners gamblers? With bitcoins volitility those who buy and hold it are gambling on its value from minute to minute. Those who mine it are gambling on it's worth and value between payouts and the next difficulty jump, those who accept is as payment are gambling that its price will remain the same or increase before they can cash out or that the service they are using to cash out with will not go belly up before they cash out like so many in the past have. In essence every bitcoin is a gambler meaning we all have an addiction problem which makes us all mentally ill.
SO, everybody who makes an investment is mentally ill? So, basically everyone who isn't poor and has money, he doesn't need for daily expenses is mentally ill?
Are people who instead throw their money out for things like the newest iPhone are mentally healthy?
newbie
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March 06, 2015, 07:02:13 PM
Go get your economics degree and answer your question in your thesis. other wise your statements are other wise pointless.
legendary
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March 06, 2015, 06:56:29 PM
I feel like my point was missed

1 IN 5 AMERICANS ARE MENTALLY ILLthis leads us to expect similar numbers of all nations, so 20% off all people are nuts. Just deal with it and move on, this extends into all hobbies and interest.

Law of statistics would suggest that there definetly must be a portion of mentally ill people in bitcoin users, but given the fact its not really something that catches an eye of such a person, but rather someone involved in finance and science i think how that percentage is rather small, but there are tinfoil muricans on the other hand, so anything is possible.
There is one specific young individual that i recently comented with my friends thats in bitcoin documentary, that is clearly disturbed.

cheers
hero member
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March 06, 2015, 06:49:40 PM
If Bitcoin makes a person mentally ill, count me in as crazy for cocoa puffs!



Then again, one could make the argument I was deranged before Crypto took a hold of me.   Cheesy
To be honest we are all seen as mentally ill, derranged, delusional individual to the outside world, just like every other pioneer in history ever. Since when was being a pioneer an easy job? Smiley
newbie
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March 06, 2015, 05:23:12 PM

The only correlation that can be done is if you assume that many bitcoiners are also gamblers (which is commonly concerned an addiction).

A very correct assumption, but in a sense aren't all bitcoiners gamblers? With bitcoins volitility those who buy and hold it are gambling on its value from minute to minute. Those who mine it are gambling on it's worth and value between payouts and the next difficulty jump, those who accept is as payment are gambling that its price will remain the same or increase before they can cash out or that the service they are using to cash out with will not go belly up before they cash out like so many in the past have. In essence every bitcoin is a gambler meaning we all have an addiction problem which makes us all mentally ill.
hero member
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March 06, 2015, 04:33:30 PM
Just by reading through some of the replies to the OP i can see that the OP has some valid points. I think the statistical percentages are off a bit but i find myself agreeing that at least a measurable proportion of members on this forum have psychological issues. I remember reading a while back a post from someone who got attacked by people here for selling things and that the seller pointed out that most of the attackers had some sort of NPD or HPD after which the attackers removed all doubt that he was right by displaying just how NPD or HPD they were with hundreds of posts. I cant remember who it was but i remember thinking to myself that i could not believe some of the replies i read and that they were coming from people who are thought to be pillars of this forum.

The sad part is that one of the biggest triggers of outlash from people who are mentally ill is being told they have a mental illness, so although i think a study of behavior and patterns / trends among bitcoiners would be a very interesting paper to read from a psych standpoint, i also think that all it would accomplish is a rampant rage among those who suffer from disorders here.

The only correlation that can be done is if you assume that many bitcoiners are also gamblers (which is commonly concerned an addiction).
newbie
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March 06, 2015, 04:02:18 PM
Just by reading through some of the replies to the OP i can see that the OP has some valid points. I think the statistical percentages are off a bit but i find myself agreeing that at least a measurable proportion of members on this forum have psychological issues. I remember reading a while back a post from someone who got attacked by people here for selling things and that the seller pointed out that most of the attackers had some sort of NPD or HPD after which the attackers removed all doubt that he was right by displaying just how NPD or HPD they were with hundreds of posts. I cant remember who it was but i remember thinking to myself that i could not believe some of the replies i read and that they were coming from people who are thought to be pillars of this forum.

The sad part is that one of the biggest triggers of outlash from people who are mentally ill is being told they have a mental illness, so although i think a study of behavior and patterns / trends among bitcoiners would be a very interesting paper to read from a psych standpoint, i also think that all it would accomplish is a rampant rage among those who suffer from disorders here.
legendary
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March 06, 2015, 03:18:58 PM
I'm curious if anyone has closed bank account for real and went all Bitcoin?

You can buy more and more things with Bitcoin but I still (for now).

Not a wise idea because many clients still pay with fiat and bitcoin is too volatile to invest all in.
Anyone who is paid in bitcoin would also be wise to convert half their paycheck at least into a stable fiat so they aren't forced to spend thier BTC on the dips.

It will take a few more years before one can begin to start to suggest this tactic as a wise financial decision.
Indeed. The conditions for this aren't really there yet. Maybe in a city where adoption is decent. You're right, in a few years, when rates stabilize more this could be done without major risks.
Again, this will be possible in the future and I'm looking forward to doing so myself.
legendary
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March 06, 2015, 03:16:52 PM
Well, I suffer from depression and loneliness, but my multipool is going live tomorrow so I got that going for me which is nice.
Well is it crazy good? I may have to check into it.

New coins can get into the pool by being a small fee pr month.

It will create buy pressure on the exchanges for the coins to make them more healthy.

Check in the Service section to find the thread I made for it Tongue

How does it payout though? I mean does it payout in BTC and LTC or just whatever shitcoin is being pumped?

The payout is in the coins that have paid the fee.
The miner is able to choose what coin they want in payout that is on the list of coins "purchased" onto the pool.

If there is a lot of people that want bitcoin to be added, then it will be added though.

Link for thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/multipool-service-10-a-month-update-932225

We should stop discussing this there since its off topic from the thread.
We can continue on my thread or in PMs.
legendary
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March 06, 2015, 03:11:41 PM
Well, I suffer from depression and loneliness, but my multipool is going live tomorrow so I got that going for me which is nice.
Well is it crazy good? I may have to check into it.

New coins can get into the pool by being a small fee pr month.

It will create buy pressure on the exchanges for the coins to make them more healthy.

Check in the Service section to find the thread I made for it Tongue
legendary
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March 06, 2015, 03:08:22 PM
Well, I suffer from depression and loneliness, but my multipool is going live tomorrow so I got that going for me which is nice.
hero member
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February 23, 2015, 05:04:57 PM
If Bitcoin makes a person mentally ill, count me in as crazy for cocoa puffs!



Then again, one could make the argument I was deranged before Crypto took a hold of me.   Cheesy
donator
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February 23, 2015, 04:16:03 PM
More of a "How many humans are mentally ill?"

- Clinical Psychological Problems that disable you (such people cannot work, and are not put to jail even if they commit crimes)

- Personality traits that have a diagnosis because they sometimes have episodes that can even threaten your life (bipolar 5% of people),

- Diagnoses that are developed in the recent times solely as means of oppressing free-thinking people ( ODD)
member
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February 23, 2015, 04:08:46 PM
More of a "How many humans are mentally ill?"
newbie
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February 23, 2015, 04:07:29 PM
genius and madness, it's nothing new.

almost all great artists and scientists were somewhat bi-polar.

i believe it's an evolutionary thing. Not everyone who is close to madness can manifest their genius. Only the "fittest" ideas (and implementations) survive.

also, people who are considered normal by social standards do not have the motivation or guts to foray into experimental territories such as this.

and:

https://i.imgur.com/dxwxN5C.jpg

Actually, wouldn't being able to tolerate more stress make you a healthier person ?..
newbie
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February 17, 2015, 05:49:16 PM
Yes, there are plenty of people who are "all in", with no bank account.   I'm one of them, and despite the previous comment, it's worked out well.  Would be nice to pay my bills with bitcoin though...

Which country u are in? We're launching something that might work for you in ur in one of EURo countries.
donator
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February 17, 2015, 02:50:50 PM
Why are people still posting in a thread that was created by a known troll? Check out his previous posts.
We should not be acknowledging him or his accusations. He is king troll.

The thread is among the good ones. Every time we post good stuff to it, the OP is further embarrassed. Out of bad intentions, a wonderful triumph has come!
Do you still believe in 1mm per coin?
aint that mentally ill?

I believed in $1000 coins when it was $20. Slander was exactly the same back then.


(If you seriously want to know what I believe or do not, this post shows that on average, I believe that we are at $13,000 or so in 5 years, although the variance is great)
hero member
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February 17, 2015, 01:51:16 PM
I think if you're at all capable of grasping bitcoin, the whole concept, in the first place, there's little damn chance you're at risk of being mentally ill. The required level of intelligence to understand bitcoin, the foundation of bitcoin, the blockchain, the point, the nuances of economics, and the dynamics of bitcoin is not a sign of a weak mind susceptible to mental illness.

The idiots in comment sections who continually call people names, troll these and similar forums hollering bitcoin's end times and have nothing else to do but post over and over day in and day out trying to warn everyone against it, it's in its "death throws" as one put it in a comments section earlier - now those ones are soft in the head and could probably make do with a visit to a psychiatrist.  Grin

this....especially as we have been non educated about what currency is, that is Fiat is just given as a fait accompli.

In 2004 I gave a lecture to my fellow law of banking elective takers in a top 20 law school in the world, and their eyes glazed over when I started to explain Fiat to them, CRR, FRB etc...hell I had to phone the central bank just to confirm everything I had said was right. Satoshi has now put that squarely in the discourse.

FRB/Central banking is not always bad, but it is almost always corrupted without competition. Competition to the state monopoly is a facet of BTC.

Can we please confirm this chain of events.

1) 11 years ago you were giving a lecture to your fellow "law of banking elective takers" in one of the worlds 20 best law schools.
2) As your fellow law of banking elective takers started getting sleepy, you decided to call the central bank on speaker phone and repeat the lecture to the telephone operator who confirmed your lecture as valid to the class?!  Grin
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