Topic: How much do signature campaigns work? (Read 595 times)

I understand you very well, but I insist that it has happened here in the forum that a campaign ran for a long time without a manager. Let me try to explain. When I joined this forum newly, I discovered that 1xbit was among the high paying campaigns then apart from chipmixer which was exceptional, followed by Bestchange which was paying $100 per week. 1x launched a campaign that was paying legendary as high as $150 and members were recieving upto $30 or $20. They had a manager with the username "1xbit manager", ofcourse a new account. But it didn't take long that they started running into troubles, the manager was multi tagged as well as the participants.

In order to keep going they launched another campaign. That is having two campaigns simultaneously. This went on untill their spreadsheet was no longer visible and no one was coming out public to announce as the manager. This was exactly when no one was playing the role of a manager. They no longer check quality of post, they no longer check how many days it took to complete the post, just that someone was sending payment weekly. Someone sending out payment doesn't really mean they are managing the campaign. Besides, some managers do not make payment but the team does. It will be right to say that at a time, 1xbit had no manager.

The issue with 1xbit is complex and they brought it upon themselves. Had it been they were wise and handled the situation well, especially those who are complaining here, it wouldn't have been so terrible for them. It only got to the stage that people were no more patient but tagging any campaigner for the casino. But it is not that those who were campaigning for them were bad. Many of those guys are just victims of it and we've discouraged these items without a number. Some are indeed good posters and not shitposters, but due to the impatience of those who tagged them, by not even giving them a direct fair warning, they often tagged them. They are actually not lesser than all other posters here.

It only got worse during the time they wanted to move out of the forum as they were desperate to accept all accounts including those hopeless and redundant ones.

Also, @KingsDen, there was a manager behind it, but not the regular name here. However, when it got to their last times here, I think they were communicating off the forum since no official communication but many were joining. They can't join without a directive, otherwise, they will not be paid. I wonder if they even paid the last weeks before they disappeared.

Problem with 1xbit signature campaign participants was more about promoting scammy gambling sites than anything else. I mean sure, they were shitposters but not any worse that you can find in some of the other currently running campaigns.


Have you seen the shitposts made by some members of Stake campaign that are obviously counted and paid for?

How is it that there is a signature campaign running and there is nobody managing it? Is that even possible. How are the participants vetted and chosen? How are their posts regularly checked and counted? How do the participants get paid? How are they assessed whether they're still worth keeping for the week that follows? Certainly, it's not being run by a bot or an AI.

All this means there must be somebody out there managing the campaign. Whether that is hired from the forum or somebody belonging to the team itself or a staff who is also doing other tasks for the company, the point is somebody is a manager for their marketing here.

Even to a shady company as 1xbit, I guess they didn't just accept all applicants on a first come, first served basis and pay them weekly without even counting their posts or checking whether they're posting or not. There's always somebody managing the promotion.

They had manager or possibly managers because new accounts were created with the alias "1xbit management, manager 1xbit" etc. But those accounts were multi tagged and their reputation ruined. At a time, there was no known manager or better to say they had a faceless manager. Whether there was a manager behind the scene or not, the campaign didn't go like something that was managed. The campaign participants were the worse spammers. There's no manager that could tolerate what happened in 1xbit campaign, that's why I concluded the were without managers.

Ok, I am just learning that they didn't escrow their funds. I understood how risky it was for the community to believe such a project. But it is nice to see how everything has fallen in place.

I think companies might have time to manage signature campaigns because they hire people who represent them on this forum, take care of ANN thread and answer questions and solve accusations. They hire signature campaign managers because hiring a trusted manager positively affects your company and people are more likely to join a campaign managed by a trusted manager who has been doing this job honestly for years.

How do you know that 1xbit didn't have manager running things from behind, counting posts etc?


True, BestChange had a lot of issues in the beginning because they didn't hire external manager and didn't escrow the funds for the beginning but eventually everything sorted.

Bestchange campaign is managed internally by Best_change and not a bitcoin manager. The management of the campaign has done well over the years. It is not only Bestchange that is in that category, casino campaign called stake seems to have same arrangement where they have internal managers and they have been successful. But then, you don't seem to understand me well. I was just generalizing about having a running campaign without a manager be it internally or externally. Just like what 1xbit did some time ago.

However, coming from the context you brought us to. Any project who did not use bitcointalk managers and also do not have a reputable account here prior to launching a campaign here does not always have a good start. Bestchange had similar issues, although I wasn't in the forum then but the first pages of their thread reveals so.

I have to tell you one thing, competition to get into signature campaigns are tough. The requirements to apply for consideration are getting more difficult by the day, which is good for the forum, because it reduces shit posting.

Take your time, before you apply for these campaigns. Do proper research and post quality information. (A lot of people try to "cheat" the system, but the competition quickly expose them, because they want their spot in the campaigns)

Good luck and focus more on adding value to the forum, the rest will fall into place over time.  

I like to think that they don't know that their brands are pasted on the signatures of every forum member here and that they're entirely trusting the work of the campaign manager to monitor the participants in the campaign and that they're not just posting and then lying about wearing it and the campaign managers can see when someone removes their signature if I recall, your past campaigns with your signature and avatar stays even if you aren't already in that campaign so there's really no way that you can cheat the campaign and be able to join two at the same time, and it's also not really worth it to do that for the participants, it will only make their life more complicated since they're going to build up on these lies and will definitely backfire when the time comes, it's much easier for them to just slap it on their signature and avatar and let it stay there then they start posting.

The way I see it, It is typical of how a job works. You have the Board of Directors, the CEO, the Managers(usually contracted), and the employees. Now just as in the real work place. If the company has a new product that they need to market and want visibility, they go to the place where their potential customers go. The manager put up an advert for a paid gig and carefully selects those who meet certain criteria. Prior to this time pay and other details would already have been discussed and agreed up. Some times, you may find that the managers would first put up a notice for avatar design or signature design. To get a good idea of how it works read threads here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5406507 and here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0

As far as I know (someone please correct me if I am wrong), the signature campaign you are currently part of is managed internally by BestChange and not by the external manager and they are doing it quite successfully for years so your statement is not true.

With that being said, I do think that it makes more sense to hire more experienced person who knows this forum well, like some of our reputed managers instead trying to do it by yourself.

I don't see how signatures, signature campaigns, and merits are keeping you from posting or discussing Bitcoin in any way you want. You are free to browse and post in any area of the forum. You can post, create your own threads, and even diss or attack other members or staff, and no one is going to silence you for it. You can even self-moderate your threads and have control over who can write in them and who can't. You can create local rules preventing certain users to comment in your threads if that's what you want. Can your trust ratings be impacted by such actions? Yes, they can. But why would you care unless you want to join a signature campaign yourself?!

If you don't like seeing someone's posts, ignore them. There is literally a button for it to make the ignoring even more serious. 
Are posts breaking any rules? Report them, and if you are right, the staff will delete them regardless of who wrote it.

They also have their own technical support system and developers analyst that monitors the results from each participants or everyone in general, it will all be obvious also from how they gain traffic on their website unlike before.


The pay rate is on their thread under the rules.


Read the companions threads to see their requirements and eligibility, if you're fine and ok with their terms and conditions, you can choose to apply to get selected, everything needed for participating in the campaign will be found on their signature campaigns thread.

The duties of campaign managers are bold and cannot be overlooked. If anyone could start a signature campaign in this forum without a campaign manager, it is likened to running a company without a manager. The manager's role is too important to be overlooked. If no one manages the campaigns, the campaign will not be effective and the project owners will end up wasting money in the name of advertisement without results. Imagine that there was when a particular signature participant was promoting to different signature campaigns and getting paid by both even when the campaigns were managed by reputable managers. What he does is to wear one signature and avatar when that campaign is about to pay her participants. After the payment, he will remove it and wear the signature of the other campaign and also receive payment from the other campaign. He did that for several weeks before being bursted.

Just imagine that if someone can play such smartness even when the campaign is being managed by strong hands, what happens when no one is managing the campaign. People will just not wear signatures at all and also receive payments.
As of OP asking, everything can be figured out by you if you stay here a little longer and if you keep reading and not asking only.

You just have to check one signature campaign to see and understand how it works everything are written in the signature campaign like the purpose of the campaign, what they are promoting and who are qualified to promote and what are the requirements to get included in the campaign
When the signature is visible in the participant's profile and shows up in all his posts, there is a spreadsheet and the spreadsheet shows if you reached the requirement and your payout status everything depends on the rules set up by the signature campaign manager, if you're a good poster and rank up and decided to join one campaign you will understand all these things right now focus more on your contribution here on Bitcointalk.

Companies don’t know how much you have posted them , I think the idea of most companies hiring mangers to work for them is to monitor every post relating to what the company is advertising.

Mangers here play a pivotal role because they are the middle men between the advertising company and the employees ( people hired to work for the company ). And the following are some of the roles that the managers play the advertising company:
1. Managers announce when the can is open
2. They monitor the quality of your posts.
3. They make sure you obey the terms and conditions as stipulated by the company
4. They also ensure that you meet the number of post that you are supposed to post per week
5.The pay salary to workers every week .
Hence, managers stand in place of the company for the campaigns.

OP already has 64 merits he only lacks 6 more activities to become a member rank and from here he can participate in signature campaigns but HE can only participate in altcoin campaigns because the majority of campaigns in the service section only accept full members.
Checking his post history he has a good chance to be part of a signature campaign the incentives will motivate OP to post quality posts because his knowledgeable on some niche.
You have an edge here if you know one niche and that niche is part of the discussions here on Bitcointalk, but if you're on a signature campaign you are bound by rules and terms of the campaigns, so its your choice if you want to be part of signature campaigns.

You are missing some facts here. I believe that the companies that are paying us here to campaign for them would be concerned about what their money is being used for and the result of the same, however, each campaign manager is the one who could say outrightly what is happening behind the scene even as some are obvious to us.

Although some companies might not be concerned about the entire process as you said, but for the traffic, I am 100% sure that they are concerned about it and there will always be a system that the campaign managers and the company itself will follow in such a way that they can use a certain metric to know whether it is worth it continue to campaign with Bitcointalk or not. They can't just limit everything to the campaign manager, that is why they have their unique code that sends traffic to their site, and that traffic would have our "code" that we are the ones sending the traffic to the site which the company will verify themselves to be encouraged or discouraged based on the result.

They could entirely leave the number of posts per week, the amount to be paid weekly and per rank and others to the campaign managers, but not the traffic that can justify the money they are spending on the campaign. It gets more with some campaigns to the extent that a unique traffic code would be assigned to the individual participants. This style is applicable to some campaign managers who even have different active campaign styles as well. This could only mean that such companies are more particular about the traffic we send to their website than others.

Hey nice answer!!! Oh wait, it's the same answer already given by multiple other members. Sorry had to give you some shit but the thread is only 2 pages long, you should read other replies before replying, thanks.