How much do you think Bitcoin.com is worth, what price would Roger sell?

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Quote from: BitHodler on October 13, 2019, 08:24:54 AM

Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on October 12, 2019, 08:16:21 AM

hundred million could be a fair valuation but a billion Shocked

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One is better off using $100 million or whatever greater amount to buy Bitcoin. Buying Bitcoin offers much more potential growth and is extremely liquid, while such domain only appeals to a small number of people.

We're already at a point where a crypto business isn't going to 10x in value, and even if so, that doesn't make the domain itself become worth 10x more. Nothing thus far has beaten the percentage gains of Bitcoin and I doubt that will ever change.

Bitcoin isn't a buisness though, it's just an investment. If someone was going to acquire a buisness, they'd rather buy a good domain or buisness then just invest their money into crypto-currencies.

We've sort of reached an impasse here with crypto-buisness and it's getting hard for the companies to expand into other markets. I agree with you there.

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Quote from: BitHodler on October 13, 2019, 08:24:54 AM

One is better off using $100 million or whatever greater amount to buy Bitcoin.

This is so true. Assuming one has that kind of money, then they don't really need to touch it for another 5 to 10 years, they can just buy $100m worth of bitcoin without affecting the price (or maybe even if they do, just a little bit), wait until it's 10x and now they have a billion. Which they also don't need to sell. Or they could sell 10% of it for $100m, and ride the next few halvings to 100x, and have the remainder worth $9b.

I'd wait 20 years. Only because this is all on the assumption you didn't need to use the original $100m for anything else and are doing pretty well prior. The billions is just extra gravy.

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Quote from: BitHodler on October 13, 2019, 08:24:54 AM

One is better off using $100 million or whatever greater amount to buy Bitcoin. Buying Bitcoin offers much more potential growth and is extremely liquid, while such domain only appeals to a small number of people.

The same has applied all along for all the money thrown at crypto companies never to be seen again. But that's not how these people think and possibly never will. Think of how much was spent in 2014 which was possibly the peak year for VC funding. Only a handful of companies are still around and still doing well.

It's a world I don't understand and never will. I hope it brings them joy all the same.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on October 12, 2019, 08:16:21 AM

hundred million could be a fair valuation but a billion Shocked

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One is better off using $100 million or whatever greater amount to buy Bitcoin. Buying Bitcoin offers much more potential growth and is extremely liquid, while such domain only appeals to a small number of people.

We're already at a point where a crypto business isn't going to 10x in value, and even if so, that doesn't make the domain itself become worth 10x more. Nothing thus far has beaten the percentage gains of Bitcoin and I doubt that will ever change.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on October 12, 2019, 08:16:21 AM

Quote from: Kyraishi on October 09, 2019, 08:35:34 AM

If Bitcoin.com sold now, there was a previous buisness run on it so it'll be also selling an identity of the buisness, and not just the name, but it'll probably be sold with the buisness, so actually a lot more.

Bitcoin.com with the buisness could fetch a lot, dare I say a billion?

If someone is purchasing a domain and a business for a billion dollar then it could be a fair valuation if he could recover the amount, if you are spending money on something you need to have a realistic valuation and no one will be spending a billion dollars to acquire a business unless they have a clear plan on how to recover the money spent and we are yet to see that kind of sales in this market, hundred million could be a fair valuation but a billion Shocked

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If they are buying a buisness that we are assuming isn't dead, and are generating fairly decent amounts of income, they could scrape by not really spending a lot of time with a buisness strategy.

I'm sure the the company would have plans for expansion in the future and the new owner could fairly easily just follow those plans and copy what they where going to do in the future.

Obviously the person will be smart enough to future out a plan to recover their funds, I assume.

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Quote from: Dabs on October 11, 2019, 12:32:51 PM

Voice.com sold for $30 million, and it was bought by Block.one the same group behind EOS.

They liquidated $1 billion worth of Ether just to strenghten their financial position. That money has to be spent 'wisely'. Cheesy

Quote from: Rmcdermott927 on October 11, 2019, 11:10:45 PM

Based on BItcoin Cash price and traffic estimates I would sell at 10-15m USD

Not sure what BCash has to do with this? It would do more harm than good to the value with how shit it performed since it came into existence.

Interestingly, the traffic of the .com domain isn't doing that much better than the .org domain;

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitcoin.com (Alexa rank 9,913 and declining)
https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitcoin.org (Alexa rank 11,653 and improving)

With some more effort, the .org site could do the same thing as the .com is doing and overtake it.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on October 12, 2019, 08:16:21 AM

If someone is purchasing a domain and a business for a billion dollar then it could be a fair valuation if he could recover the amount, if you are spending money on something you need to have a realistic valuation and no one will be spending a billion dollars to acquire a business unless they have a clear plan on how to recover the money spent and we are yet to see that kind of sales in this market, hundred million could be a fair valuation but a billion Shocked

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I think the billion dollar thing is a crock of shit too... however look at the amounts thrown around in VC land with no realistic plan for a return and no plan to make anything actually work in the meantime.

It seems long ago that anything Silicon Valley ish gave up trying to be anything other than a planet-sized bag of hot air. Look at junk like Theranos which never provided a shred of anything yet attracted way more money than real businesses making real money making real things.

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Quote from: Kyraishi on October 09, 2019, 08:35:34 AM

If Bitcoin.com sold now, there was a previous buisness run on it so it'll be also selling an identity of the buisness, and not just the name, but it'll probably be sold with the buisness, so actually a lot more.

Bitcoin.com with the buisness could fetch a lot, dare I say a billion?

If someone is purchasing a domain and a business for a billion dollar then it could be a fair valuation if he could recover the amount, if you are spending money on something you need to have a realistic valuation and no one will be spending a billion dollars to acquire a business unless they have a clear plan on how to recover the money spent and we are yet to see that kind of sales in this market, hundred million could be a fair valuation but a billion Shocked

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You guys realize your low ass price estimations don't mean shit if you can't convince the seller to sell right?

Because that's how trading works.

>You offer $15m to Roger,
>You increase your offer to $20m
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This will go on and on till Roger agrees. At what price do you think he'll agree to sell? Do your math thinking about this. In this trade you are trying to convince him. He didn't put his domain on sale. He is not trying to get rid of it.

You want it.

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Based on BItcoin Cash price and traffic estimates I would sell at 10-15m USD

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Voice.com sold for $30 million, and it was bought by Block.one the same group behind EOS.

So the bitcoin.com domain alone is easily worth at least that much. $40 to $50 million is not a bad price, plus with everything else the domain has, the website, the businesses, it would altogether cost maybe $100 million.

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Quote from: gentlemand on October 09, 2019, 09:24:18 AM

I've genuinely never come across anyone here who's bought bitcoin or been fooled into buying bch through that site.

I'm sure it gets plenty of traffic from the news bit and the mining pool must do adequately but someone else could do plenty more than is being done with it right now.

I doubt anyone would want to buy the businesses running through it. Only the domain itself would be the desirable bit.

It's a scummy buisness tactic from Roger, but it's not that effective and I doubt it's actually worked before, the recommended line isn't that obstructive.

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Quote from: gentlemand on October 09, 2019, 09:24:18 AM

I doubt anyone would want to buy the businesses running through it. Only the domain itself would be the desirable bit.

It is, people are buying a domain with good backlinks and continuous flow of traffic for the redirection purposes I sold one of my domain 5 five years ago and it was used as intended for redirection, it's a good option than to buy pay per click traffic because the traffic would look like an organic traffic, it used to be one of the best strategies to gain backlinks and traffic.

That was my intention with the post - Bitcoin.com as a domain would definetly go up in price compared to crypto.com, because one of them has had continuous traffic and revune, while the other one was literally just a domain. Your forced to buy more when you buy bitcoin.com, which could be good or bad.

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Quote from: gentlemand on October 09, 2019, 09:24:18 AM

I doubt anyone would want to buy the businesses running through it. Only the domain itself would be the desirable bit.

It is, people are buying a domain with good backlinks and continuous flow of traffic for the redirection purposes I sold one of my domain 5 five years ago and it was used as intended for redirection, it's a good option than to buy pay per click traffic because the traffic would look like an organic traffic, it used to be one of the best strategies to gain backlinks and traffic.

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I've genuinely never come across anyone here who's bought bitcoin or been fooled into buying bch through that site.

I'm sure it gets plenty of traffic from the news bit and the mining pool must do adequately but someone else could do plenty more than is being done with it right now.

I doubt anyone would want to buy the businesses running through it. Only the domain itself would be the desirable bit.

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Quote from: gentlemand on October 09, 2019, 08:19:24 AM

Weird that all this wild guessing is going on when we have the crypto.com domain sale to refer to.

That was twelve million dollars or so.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/05/crypto-com-mco/

Hard to say whether bitcoin.com would fetch more. It probably would as more people will be familiar with that. Crypto is a bit more generic.

I'd still say a lot more to be honest, crypto.com was a domain that jad nothing to it then the name, and it was definetly not associated with a buisness or anything.

If Bitcoin.com sold now, there was a previous buisness run on it so it'll be also selling an identity of the buisness, and not just the name, but it'll probably be sold with the buisness, so actually a lot more.

Bitcoin.com with the buisness could fetch a lot, dare I say a billion?

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Weird that all this wild guessing is going on when we have the crypto.com domain sale to refer to.

That was twelve million dollars or so.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/05/crypto-com-mco/

Hard to say whether bitcoin.com would fetch more. It probably would as more people will be familiar with that. Crypto is a bit more generic.

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Quote from: mindrust on October 04, 2019, 05:17:05 AM

If it was mine, I wouldn't sell it unless someone pays me 1 billion dollars, in bitcoin, which is around 120k bitcoins.

But that's only me. Some other guy wouldn't sell it at all or sell it for $50k.

I think $1billion is a fair price.

Checking some other application that determines the price of that domain, it could not go $500 million

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BITCOIN.COM TRAFFIC WORTH
We estimate the website value of bitcoin.com is currently at $ 211,715 USD and reaches roughly 48,524 unique users each day that generate 96,673 daily pageviews

the number one social media site is only worth more than $300 million
http://www.siteworthtraffic.com/report/facebook.com

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We estimate the website value of facebook.com is currently at $ 393,338,737 USD and reaches roughly 23,331,426 unique users each day that generate 179,606,316 daily pageviews with a daily revenue (from advertisements, i.e Google AdSense) of $ 179,608 USD approximately. According to Alexa (the Web Information Company) the Global Traffic Rank is 5

so if the number one social media site Facebook cannot go over 500 million I doubt Bitcoin can too, but it's only ten years as adoption is progressing so the price will increase every year.

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I already told you what the price would be.

It is one billion US dollars, in bitcoin.

If you don't believe me go try Roger with your offers. Let's see at what price he'll get convinced. I'll tell you, he won't till you hit a ridiculously high number (maybe never). That com version of the bitcoin domain is the best version and it belongs to a great technology. (Probably the best tech humans achieved in the last 100 years)

This is power beyond imagination. You probably cannot even measure its worth with FIAT money that's why the price would be so ridiculously high.

Btw cars.com domain is a piece of shit compared to bitcoin.com

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Quote from: Kyraishi on October 07, 2019, 08:49:42 PM

Quote from: BitHodler on October 05, 2019, 04:24:12 AM

Quote from: 1Referee on October 04, 2019, 02:16:10 PM

Cars.com as business (valued at $2.5 billion) was sold where the valuation of the domain itself was reported as $872 million. If we ever get to see bitcoin dot com get sold, it will be done through a similar construction, because if you sell just the domain without a working business it's worth waaaay less.

Not in a hundred years would I expect a domain to fetch that much even though it was sold as a combi deal. This makes me question my prior valuation for Roger's domain, because a lot of factors do play a role.

Cars is easy to spell, most people in the world know what a cars are, regardless of the country they come from, and it is a booming industry even with how we're shifting towards cars running on electricity. Powerful domain.

Bitcoin is exactly the same. It's easy to spell, everyone knows what you're talking about, and its industry is booming as well, and it has a lot more potential in terms of growth. $50 million might even be conservative.

I mean, I think it'll make sense that such a popular domain would be sold for so much. Cars, as a word is way more popular than bitcoin, or ethereum, and that was probably one of the reasons why it sold for so much, as well as there being a successful business run on the site.

Bitcoin.com would sell for quite a lot if there was a business run on it as well (which there is), and it might actually be worth more then I think with the cars domain stats.

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Quote from: green547 on September 16, 2019, 09:34:14 PM

Estimates on how much bitcoin.com would fetch on the open market?

According to worthofweb,comn it is worth $10 million dollar Estimated worth of this website: $10,670,000
https://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/https://www.bitcoin.com//
Obviously, because Bitcoin is one of the top keywords on the internet and it commands a good price in the market, one of the site with great value.

I wouldn't really trust any of those review sites, it's just a random bot spewing out numbers. They are only really good for lower value domain valuation.

So what do you think is the right value, the $10 million is a conservative value, one guy even think that it's worth $50 million we don't have to be surprised on its value it's pretty obvious that he owns the most valuable keywords in the internet and it will go up steadily as Bitcoin value and adoption moves forward, and besides this application has a metric that they are considering even if it is a bot.

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Quote from: green547 on September 16, 2019, 09:34:14 PM

Estimates on how much bitcoin.com would fetch on the open market?

Bitcoin.com is a very attractive domain name and i do not it anyone would be willing to sale it.
Still, there are many followers of Roger Ver and if he would sell it, the site may lose considerable traffic also.

Quote from: gentlemand on October 04, 2019, 05:13:07 AM

Quote from: slaman29 on October 04, 2019, 04:57:34 AM

I'm not sure anyone would spend that much on it now who had money or the Roger Ver attitude.

It would instantly go for many, many times more than $1 million if it were ever put up for sale.

Crypto.com supposedly went for $12 million last year and last year wasn't exactly a classic year for the whole market.

There are always people / businessmen who will buy what they think will be in trending the future. If bitcoin become mainstream, these domain names will be worth a million.

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