How much do you think Bitcoin.com is worth, what price would Roger sell? - page 2.

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Quote from: BitHodler on October 05, 2019, 03:24:12 AM

Quote from: 1Referee on October 04, 2019, 01:16:10 PM

Cars.com as business (valued at $2.5 billion) was sold where the valuation of the domain itself was reported as $872 million. If we ever get to see bitcoin dot com get sold, it will be done through a similar construction, because if you sell just the domain without a working business it's worth waaaay less.

Not in a hundred years would I expect a domain to fetch that much even though it was sold as a combi deal. This makes me question my prior valuation for Roger's domain, because a lot of factors do play a role.

Cars is easy to spell, most people in the world know what a cars are, regardless of the country they come from, and it is a booming industry even with how we're shifting towards cars running on electricity. Powerful domain.

Bitcoin is exactly the same. It's easy to spell, everyone knows what you're talking about, and its industry is booming as well, and it has a lot more potential in terms of growth. $50 million might even be conservative.

I mean, I think it'll make sense that such a popular domain would be sold for so much. Cars, as a word is way more popular than bitcoin, or ethereum, and that was probably one of the reasons why it sold for so much, as well as there being a successful business run on the site.

Bitcoin.com would sell for quite a lot if there was a business run on it as well (which there is), and it might actually be worth more then I think with the cars domain stats.

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Quote from: green547 on September 16, 2019, 08:34:14 PM

Estimates on how much bitcoin.com would fetch on the open market?

According to worthofweb,comn it is worth $10 million dollar Estimated worth of this website: $10,670,000
https://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/https://www.bitcoin.com//
Obviously, because Bitcoin is one of the top keywords on the internet and it commands a good price in the market, one of the site with great value.

I wouldn't really trust any of those review sites, it's just a random bot spewing out numbers. They are only really good for lower value domain valuation.

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Quote from: green547 on September 16, 2019, 08:34:14 PM

Estimates on how much bitcoin.com would fetch on the open market?

According to worthofweb,comn it is worth $10 million dollar Estimated worth of this website: $10,670,000
https://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/https://www.bitcoin.com//
Obviously, because Bitcoin is one of the top keywords on the internet and it commands a good price in the market, one of the site with great value.

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It should not worth more than $10M but maybe someone will offer more depends on the business they will run around it and how the name helps the business.The Bitcoin.com domain may be always own by Roger Ver. The domain can help a project to raise a lot of funds if somehow a scammer gets in access to the bitcoin.com domain it will obviously get in the news.

Roger Ver may be looking for a more healthy market than the price. Maybe he also set a time frame that in 2030 he will sell all his bitcoins. But $100k Per bitcoin is a good target IMO.

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Quote from: 1Referee on October 04, 2019, 01:16:10 PM

Cars.com as business (valued at $2.5 billion) was sold where the valuation of the domain itself was reported as $872 million. If we ever get to see bitcoin dot com get sold, it will be done through a similar construction, because if you sell just the domain without a working business it's worth waaaay less.

Not in a hundred years would I expect a domain to fetch that much even though it was sold as a combi deal. This makes me question my prior valuation for Roger's domain, because a lot of factors do play a role.

Cars is easy to spell, most people in the world know what a cars are, regardless of the country they come from, and it is a booming industry even with how we're shifting towards cars running on electricity. Powerful domain.

Bitcoin is exactly the same. It's easy to spell, everyone knows what you're talking about, and its industry is booming as well, and it has a lot more potential in terms of growth. $50 million might even be conservative.

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Quote from: slaman29 on October 04, 2019, 03:57:34 AM

Quote from: fakefrombot on October 03, 2019, 05:54:32 AM

I think its price worth same value as paid Roger Ver - 1m$. If somebody bought it for that money then it costs that money.

As for price of selling: it depends on bitcoin future. If people will forgot about bitcoin as about financial bubble then price would be 10,000$ or so. If bitcoin will become popular again and its price will raise and raise then the price would be even 2m$ for sell.

He only paid 1 million for it? Quite surprised but I guess he bought it before the 2017 bull run huh. I'm not sure anyone would spend that much on it now who had money or the Roger Ver attitude.

I'm pretty sure he paid even more for the Bitcoin Twitter handle. OR was it someone else now that bought it?

Who cares though right? I do pity all the newbies who bought BCH by accident because they went to Bitcoin.com!

Not sure if that's completely true, I honestly can't see the biggest domain in crypto history going for a mere million dollars, in the bear market last year, crypto.com, the only other domain that could even be comparable to bitcoin.com sold for 12 million dollars, and I'd assume if it did go for 1 million, whenever it goes up for sale again, it'll definitely fetch a lot more (I estimate around 15-20 million, depending on who buys it, and if there's a huge bidding war for it).

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Quote from: mindrust on October 04, 2019, 04:17:05 AM

I think $1billion is a fair price.

Never in the history has a domain ever sold for anywhere near that amount. Roger has to include his whole empire, and it still wouldn't fetch a billion.

It's not easy to utilize that domain. It's great and all that everyone agrees it's valuable and powerful, but that also requires a relentless businessman behind it, which Roger is. How many people similar to Roger we have in crypto?

I'm sure Coinbase would turn it into a shitcoin platform where they ask noobs to complete tasks and courses in return for $20 worth of tokens of a project nobody ever cared about.

Agreed. Only a huge existing business would have enough ideas and resources to turn the domain into something big, I would assume the best way to profit off it would be turn into a buying/selling BTC site?

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Quote from: 1Referee on October 04, 2019, 01:16:10 PM

Quote from: BitHodler on October 04, 2019, 08:04:10 AM

Never in the history has a domain ever sold for anywhere near that amount.

Cars.com as business (valued at $2.5 billion) was sold where the valuation of the domain itself was reported as $872 million. If we ever get to see bitcoin dot com get sold, it will be done through a similar construction, because if you sell just the domain without a working business it's worth waaaay less.

I don't think any entity within crypto has the capital needed to acquire this domain including the businesses, unless they throw in shares of their own company to tempt Roger to sell it. If we get to witness a takeover, it will probably be an institution or large social media platform. I rather see Roger keep it in his portfolio than for example Facebook or Google.

No single entity would able to buy it for sure but im not saying that there were no billionaires out there.Asking for Billion does really need some justification but as you said if its just a domain then its way too less as expected.Giving out shares is really a tempting one but with Ver current standing i dont see that he would care for such offer but were pretty sure that there were already big institutions that eyeing out this domain.Its might not be that expensive or worth billions but this one can give a fortune if its being utilized well.

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Quote from: BitHodler on October 04, 2019, 08:04:10 AM

Never in the history has a domain ever sold for anywhere near that amount.

Cars.com as business (valued at $2.5 billion) was sold where the valuation of the domain itself was reported as $872 million. If we ever get to see bitcoin dot com get sold, it will be done through a similar construction, because if you sell just the domain without a working business it's worth waaaay less.

I don't think any entity within crypto has the capital needed to acquire this domain including the businesses, unless they throw in shares of their own company to tempt Roger to sell it. If we get to witness a takeover, it will probably be an institution or large social media platform. I rather see Roger keep it in his portfolio than for example Facebook or Google.

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Quote from: mindrust on October 04, 2019, 04:17:05 AM

I think $1billion is a fair price.

Never in the history has a domain ever sold for anywhere near that amount. Roger has to include his whole empire, and it still wouldn't fetch a billion.

It's not easy to utilize that domain. It's great and all that everyone agrees it's valuable and powerful, but that also requires a relentless businessman behind it, which Roger is. How many people similar to Roger we have in crypto?

I'm sure Coinbase would turn it into a shitcoin platform where they ask noobs to complete tasks and courses in return for $20 worth of tokens of a project nobody ever cared about.

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If it was mine, I wouldn't sell it unless someone pays me 1 billion dollars, in bitcoin, which is around 120k bitcoins.

But that's only me. Some other guy wouldn't sell it at all or sell it for $50k.

I think $1billion is a fair price.

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Quote from: slaman29 on October 04, 2019, 03:57:34 AM

I'm not sure anyone would spend that much on it now who had money or the Roger Ver attitude.

It would instantly go for many, many times more than $1 million if it were ever put up for sale.

Crypto.com supposedly went for $12 million last year and last year wasn't exactly a classic year for the whole market.

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Quote from: fakefrombot on October 03, 2019, 05:54:32 AM

I think its price worth same value as paid Roger Ver - 1m$. If somebody bought it for that money then it costs that money.

As for price of selling: it depends on bitcoin future. If people will forgot about bitcoin as about financial bubble then price would be 10,000$ or so. If bitcoin will become popular again and its price will raise and raise then the price would be even 2m$ for sell.

He only paid 1 million for it? Quite surprised but I guess he bought it before the 2017 bull run huh. I'm not sure anyone would spend that much on it now who had money or the Roger Ver attitude.

I'm pretty sure he paid even more for the Bitcoin Twitter handle. OR was it someone else now that bought it?

Who cares though right? I do pity all the newbies who bought BCH by accident because they went to Bitcoin.com!

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Quote from: gentlemand on October 02, 2019, 04:07:17 AM

Quote from: badykvik on October 02, 2019, 03:13:43 AM

The value of domain name is not stable, it have more to do with the interest of the buyer. Two domain name appraisal tool websites displays different value for www.bitcoin.com

Would you really choose to believe automated shit like that? Those things are all junk but quadruply so for something like this.

It's going to be several million dollars no matter what, potentially tens of millions. A lot of money can be made with it.

Agreed. It's impossible to base a domains valuation of a random tool like that, those automated sites are only correct when it comes down to the 10 dollar domains, for higher-end ones like bitcoin.com, blockchain.com, the price is all based on how rich the buyer is and how much he is willing to pay.

Quote from: pixie85 on October 03, 2019, 03:50:13 PM

Quote from: fakefrombot on October 03, 2019, 05:54:32 AM

I think its price worth same value as paid Roger Ver - 1m$. If somebody bought it for that money then it costs that money.

As for price of selling: it depends on bitcoin future. If people will forgot about bitcoin as about financial bubble then price would be 10,000$ or so. If bitcoin will become popular again and its price will raise and raise then the price would be even 2m$ for sell.

In that case Amazon.com would be worth a few hundred dollars because when the store was founded the company operated from one room and Bezos did everything himself.

Sites grow in value like companies. You can't say that it's worth a million now that Ver has launched BCH and news outlet centered around his site. It's worth at least twice what he paid for it but he won't sell it for 2 million. Without it BCH would lose a lot of value and it would cost him more than 2 million.

Agreed mate, sometimes companies grow around a domain and then the domain grows in value, however, in this case, the domain was already pretty popular when it was first available/purchased and it's only been growing ever since.

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Quote from: fakefrombot on October 03, 2019, 05:54:32 AM

I think its price worth same value as paid Roger Ver - 1m$. If somebody bought it for that money then it costs that money.

As for price of selling: it depends on bitcoin future. If people will forgot about bitcoin as about financial bubble then price would be 10,000$ or so. If bitcoin will become popular again and its price will raise and raise then the price would be even 2m$ for sell.

In that case Amazon.com would be worth a few hundred dollars because when the store was founded the company operated from one room and Bezos did everything himself.

Sites grow in value like companies. You can't say that it's worth a million now that Ver has launched BCH and news outlet centered around his site. It's worth at least twice what he paid for it but he won't sell it for 2 million. Without it BCH would lose a lot of value and it would cost him more than 2 million.

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Quote from: BitHodler on October 03, 2019, 05:26:11 AM

Quote from: badykvik on October 02, 2019, 03:13:43 AM

The value of domain name is not stable, it have more to do with the interest of the buyer. Two domain name appraisal tool websites displays different value for www.bitcoin.com

https://uk.godaddy.com/domain-value-appraisal/appraisal/?checkAvail=1&tmskey=&domainToCheck=bitcoin.com - $25,000

https://www.freevaluator.com - $ 181,471.65

Domains like that and blockchain.com were going for $200-$300k when this whole space was nothing but a fart many years ago---blockchain as we know it today wasn't even a thing back then.

If $200-$300k was paid without there being much of a market for it back then, how much do you think (think logically) these domains are worth today with how this space in general has grown x1000?

If that wasn't enough info, a lot of these domains were paid for largely in Bitcoin.... you can imagine how many coins were needed to acquire these domains with how low Bitcoin's value was.

For sure it would really be on those high ranges if we do try to compare the prices in the past and how it did become big on the future.
All things start up from nothing until the trend changes as the years pass by.

What do I think does Bitcoin.com worth? Just like what most people do say on here, it would be ten of millions for sure but I don't think that Ver
would sell it for now but if he's been offered by his standard amount then it might changed up.

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I think its price worth same value as paid Roger Ver - 1m$. If somebody bought it for that money then it costs that money.

As for price of selling: it depends on bitcoin future. If people will forgot about bitcoin as about financial bubble then price would be 10,000$ or so. If bitcoin will become popular again and its price will raise and raise then the price would be even 2m$ for sell.

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Quote from: gentlemand on September 19, 2019, 01:18:48 PM

There's an interesting wee parallel with alts there. For whatever reason after all this time .com is still the gold standard despite it being three largely meaningless letters. The only reason why is because the collective has decided that's how it's going to be. Tokens.co is available for $999 right now. Is one solitary M worth another $499,001 to you?

For me, hell no! But some companies are pretty loaded, and I do see their point in paying an extra 499,000 for an extra M, it's all about brand image and being the first company in the game. When people think of a domain, it is hardwired in them that they usually think of one with a .com, and having a domain like tokens.com is worth the money, especially if they are a new start-up flush with funds.

Quote from: BitHodler on October 03, 2019, 05:26:11 AM

Quote from: badykvik on October 02, 2019, 03:13:43 AM

The value of domain name is not stable, it have more to do with the interest of the buyer. Two domain name appraisal tool websites displays different value for www.bitcoin.com

https://uk.godaddy.com/domain-value-appraisal/appraisal/?checkAvail=1&tmskey=&domainToCheck=bitcoin.com - $25,000

https://www.freevaluator.com - $ 181,471.65

Domains like that and blockchain.com were going for $200-$300k when this whole space was nothing but a fart many years ago---blockchain as we know it today wasn't even a thing back then.

If $200-$300k was paid without there being much of a market for it back then, how much do you think (think logically) these domains are worth today with how this space in general has grown x1000?

If that wasn't enough info, a lot of these domains were paid for largely in Bitcoin.... you can imagine how many coins were needed to acquire these domains with how low Bitcoin's value was.

They look for insane prices, even if the industry/niche is small, and then one day they end up hitting the jackpot when someone or a company with a lot of money to burn goes and picks up the thousand dollar domain.

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Quote from: badykvik on October 02, 2019, 03:13:43 AM

The value of domain name is not stable, it have more to do with the interest of the buyer. Two domain name appraisal tool websites displays different value for www.bitcoin.com

https://uk.godaddy.com/domain-value-appraisal/appraisal/?checkAvail=1&tmskey=&domainToCheck=bitcoin.com - $25,000

https://www.freevaluator.com - $ 181,471.65

Domains like that and blockchain.com were going for $200-$300k when this whole space was nothing but a fart many years ago---blockchain as we know it today wasn't even a thing back then.

If $200-$300k was paid without there being much of a market for it back then, how much do you think (think logically) these domains are worth today with how this space in general has grown x1000?

If that wasn't enough info, a lot of these domains were paid for largely in Bitcoin.... you can imagine how many coins were needed to acquire these domains with how low Bitcoin's value was.

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Quote from: badykvik on October 02, 2019, 03:13:43 AM

The value of domain name is not stable, it have more to do with the interest of the buyer. Two domain name appraisal tool websites displays different value for www.bitcoin.com

https://uk.godaddy.com/domain-value-appraisal/appraisal/?checkAvail=1&tmskey=&domainToCheck=bitcoin.com - $25,000

https://www.freevaluator.com - $ 181,471.65

If these appraisal services would be something people pain any attention to, domain hoarders would register thousands of domains because there are literally thousands of unregistered domains as we speak, that are said to be worth hundreds and some even thousands of dollars by these shitty sites.

Some domain sellers even purposely use these valuations to trick clueless people into thinking that they are offered an insane discount if they buy it. Don't fall for that shit.

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Quote from: badykvik on October 02, 2019, 03:13:43 AM

The value of domain name is not stable, it have more to do with the interest of the buyer. Two domain name appraisal tool websites displays different value for www.bitcoin.com

Would you really choose to believe automated shit like that? Those things are all junk but quadruply so for something like this.

It's going to be several million dollars no matter what, potentially tens of millions. A lot of money can be made with it.

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The value of domain name is not stable, it have more to do with the interest of the buyer. Two domain name appraisal tool websites displays different value for www.bitcoin.com

https://uk.godaddy.com/domain-value-appraisal/appraisal/?checkAvail=1&tmskey=&domainToCheck=bitcoin.com - $25,000

https://www.freevaluator.com - $ 181,471.65

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