Topic: How much do you think Waves will raise? (Read 1810 times)

withdrawals is working ? at ico platform ?

Who are those deleted major interested parties?

should be listed in 2 days, withdrawals going on right now

If you want to speculate then WAVES is already trading at double what LISK was on YoBit's iou's.

There's also going to be buy walls and support on exchange launch at or above ico price.

The team have already confirmed, then deleted, the intention of major interested parties in the chat.

Aside from that LISK imo already has blockchain problems. I don't believe in the team AT ALL. They messed up the launch and ETH for me is so much better as an alternative.

WAVES would also appear to work better with ETH. Hence I love being invested in these two.

There are many other things as-well but I'm not going to write a whole blog post.

Lmfao

did you watch Tai Zen's interview with Sasha?  Tai made several videos about Waves worth watching.

Also, Waves' whitepaper was fairly lacking.

Impressive ICO, yes, and if it can improve blockchain world, great.  im not saying they cant succeed, just that the risk/reward looked poor at end of ICO.  i have a hard time rationalizing why Waves market cap should be more than Lisk (and i think Waves market cap should be less than Lisk), yet the ICO raised about half the value of Lisk's market cap.  then again crypto world aint always rational! so it'll be fun to see this play out.

I wouldn't be quick to judge as of yet.  But I am not too impressed with their team:  http://wavesplatform.com/#daTeam

But let's wish them the best of luck nevertheless and congrats to a successful ICO.

im willing to bet it reaches a little over 29k

lol

i think waves ico raised too much and the platform does too little

HOW TO GIVE YOURSELF AN ENEMA

An enema is a great way to stimulate a bowel movement.  It will not cleanse the entire intestine nor will it condition the muscle.  However, it can bring instant relief when you are “in a bind”.

EQUIPMENT NEEDED
• An enema bag.  You can obtain this in any pharmacy.
• K-Y Jelly or any edible oil. This is used to make insertion of the rectal tube easier and more comfortable.
• Something to hang the bag if self-administered. The enema bag should be suspended no more than 18-24 inches above the level of the rectum.
• A good location:  the best place to give yourself an enema is on the bed or in the bathroom either lying on a rug or in the bathtub.
• A pad or heavy bath towel to be placed underneath the buttocks during the enema.
• A healthy source of water.  Your colon will be absorbing this water into your body.  Use the same water you would drink, preferably filtered or spring water.

PROCEDURE
For best results, and your own comfort, the enema should be taken while lying down.  If you will be giving the enema to yourself the first thing you should do is set up the area for the procedure. Make sure the hook is suspended at the proper height (18-24 inches above the rectum). Then place a pad or bath towel where you will be lying down. Slide the shutoff clamp to a point on the tubing where you will be able easily reach it while in position. Check this out ahead of time by hanging the empty bag and assuming the position, just to be sure.  Prepare the solution. The water temperature should be slightly above body temperature, between 98 and 105 degrees F at time of use.  You may need to heat water on the stove but BE SURE NOT TO USE HOT water that could hurt you, cool it down if necessary till it’s comfortable to the touch.   Fill the enema bag 90% full with the water.  Lubricate the rectal nozzle with K-Y jelly or oil.  Open the shutoff for a moment and allow enough solution to flow to expel the air from the enema tubing. This helps to reduce cramping. Lubricate your anal area with a generous amount of K-Y Jelly or oil. Work your index finger up into the rectum lubricating the entire interior area where you can reach.   Hang the enema bag on the hook.  Lie down in position. On the bed this should be on the left side with the left leg straight and the right knee flexed (Sim's position). Your left arm should be behind your back and if the shutoff is properly positioned you will be able to control it with your left hand. Your right hand will comfortably rest under your pillow. On the bathroom floor or in the tub, lie on your back with both legs drawn up, knees bent. Make sure you can easily reach the shutoff valve. Put a pillow under your head.

If someone else is giving you the enema you may find it more comfortable to assume the knee-chest position. To accomplish this, get on your hands and knees and then put one or two pillows underneath your chest, and lean forward on them. Turn your face sideways and rest it on another pillow, and snuggle both arms underneath. This particular position is an especially comfortable one to have an enema during pregnancy, but if you attempt it on your own the rectal tube tends to slip out and it is difficult to work the shutoff. If you do this on the bathroom floor rather than the bed, make sure your knees are cushioned by a pillow or a pad, or the pressure on them might cause knee damage.

Gently insert the rectal tube 3 to 4 inches into the rectum. Rotate or twist the tube back and forth to make for easier insertion.  Open the shutoff valve and allow the solution to flow. At the first indication of discomfort stop and wait a few moments. Then release the shutoff and allow the enema to resume. Feel free to interrupt the flow as frequently as is necessary to assist in minimizing the discomfort. Taking slow deep breaths will help, and if you feel cramping at any point "pant like a dog" with shallow quick breathing. As the enema progresses a feeling of fullness will develop. This is normal, and discomfort can be minimized by insuring that not too much solution is introduced too quickly.  Take your time.

When the bag is empty clamp off the shutoff and slowly remove the rectal tube. Remain in position and retain the solution for a while. For a maintenance enema a few minutes are sufficient, but if you are constipated try to hold it in for 5 to 15 minutes.   Go to the toilet and expel the enema. An enema seldom comes out in a single movement so stay near the toilet for one half to one hour. After evacuating, most people find it comfortable to lie on the bed in a prone position to rest for a while. Clean the equipment thoroughly and hang it all up to dry. An enema bag takes several days to thoroughly dry out, and should never be put away while even slightly wet.

TIPS FOR MINIMIZING DISCOMFORT
There are three primary reasons that cause an enema to be a more uncomfortable procedure than it has to be:

• Wrong position:  Use the positions suggested here and don’t give yourself and enema while seated on a toilet.
• Wrong temperature:  An enema solution too cool can cause excessive cramping. If it is too hot it can damage the delicate mucosa lining the bowel. Body temperature or slightly above (98-105F) is just right.
• Too much pressure:  If the bag or can is suspended too high, excessive pressure can cause severe discomfort. The bag should be just high enough to allow the solution to barely flow

TIPS FOR MAXIMIZING RESULTS
• Use a sufficient volume of solution
• Retain the solution for 5 to 15 minutes.
• Retaining the enema for a while before expelling it can significantly contribute to good results.

I think Waves ICO will raise somewhere about 7,7k BTC

I think we will have approximately 10.000 btc

>2500 BTC

If Lisk bombs, significantly lower.

I am not sure it will raise but I will invest a very tiny amount just in case.
seems like a good plan to get in on the profits and minimize risk.

All righty. I was wondering why this thread was going weird.

Oh that is so so wrong.   

Waves?  If suckers aren't done throwing their money away on the shitcoin market I'm sure it'll get a nice initial pop, followed by parachute failure and a stunning and painful fall to earth.  Just like the rest of them.

Ideally 100% POW is more open and transparent. Also if the POW phase is long and emissions are low from the very outset then distribution will be best.
If we must endure ICO then max of 50% ICO 50% POW.

Other than that exchanges should turn them away.

Ideally ICO should be more transparent too like NEM so you see every username and amount. Also must be hugely advertised and run for weeks.
Then 50% pow with fair release. No more insta ico where a few people control the entire minting.

You want distribution as fair and wide as possible to stop manipulations and pump and dumps.

There is no difference between premine, instamine and ICO. Only with Instamine and premine you get to see how bad it was for real. With ICO you have no real idea what is happening behind the scenes. It could be far far worse than a 10 or 20% premine. A lot worse.

If they need funds and have to have ICO all funds should be retained by escrows and released gradually too.

I'm sure some smart people here could draft up some very good rules for POW and ICO+POW that would make it much harder for insider accumulation and manipulation. We then just all have to support it.

If you remember with wave 2 alts there was a fair release protocol that a lot of devs followed. Those that tried to not follow this had their coins branded as scams. This is how xcoin/darkcoin was branded a scam because it essentially went against every single one of the fair release rules that were accepted at the time.

1 announced and advertised release date and algo
2. winrar wallets with passwords given to everyone same time
3. low starting rewards with  fast scaling diff
4. fully announced premine and premine wallet address (should really be held by escrows too)


We need to all make sure that ICO devs are not pulling a dash on us behind the scenes but right now we can not see if they are or are not. ICO is a closed curtain you don't get to see what happens at all. Premine is actually better because you get to know the % they are keeping and can see the wallet address (even better if a lot of it was held by escrows and released to them for milestones met).

POW is essentially gone because devs can get away with ICO and still get on exchanges. We should all lobby exchanges and make sure they force all new releases to have a min of 50% POW.

That is a just reward for supporting ICO. Anything over instamine and premines. We must NOT support them. I am ok to become a used ICO coin salesman one day. I will do my job with pride, with my head held high.

Bananocoin?