Topic: How much external immigration do you want in your country? (Read 2494 times)

Yeah, as long as they don't bother them. Funny how people complain at immigrants breaking the law or being a nuisance, but not their natives. It's simply just racism/misplaced hatred.


But he said Just let everyone live where they wish. What if I wished to stay in his property for free? My point is, you have to be pretty naive and have little to no understanding of economics if you think you can let everyone go wherever they want without there being dire economical consequences.  You can't let almost unlimited amounts of people into your country to live, then give them houses and let them use the services and claim benefits etc all for free whilst not contributing anything themselves. This is my point.

There is a big difference you are ignoring:

My house = my private property

My country, my city, my quarter  = a big place were a lot of people live. Noone owns it.

lol.. epic. For some people immigrants are Okay as long as they stay away from their neighborhoods.

Can I come stay in your house for free?

+1111111

If the immigrants feel that they don't have to obey the laws, then the problem lies with the law-enforcement authorities.

I dont care what ficticious religion they choose practice, as long as they dont yell discrimination as we force our countrys laws upon them.

Better cheap labor locally than outsourcing.

Searches bring up lots of information that is not publicly known. From http://www.detentionwatchnetwork.org/privateprisons

"The three largest corporations with stakes in immigration detention today are Corrections Corporations of America (CCA), the GEO Group, Inc., and the Management and Training Corporation (MTC)."

CCA is #1 according to http://www.businessofdetention.com/

And you can find more information at http://www.detentionwatchnetwork.org/privateprisons_note2

Thank you for your interest.

These questions remind me of the Pacific Islanders who tried to move to Indonesia recently (or was it Papua New Guinea? the country's not important to the point, anyway)

A few hundred years ago, it wouldn't be an issue. They lived on their island. Sea levels periodically rise and fall. If it gets a bit too deluged year to year, get in the boat and move.

Then, the 19th-21st century turns up, and the more they try to just do the logical thing and move when they get flooded, the more they get turned into pawns in everyone else's political games. If it's not "proof that immigrants are ruining x", it's "proof that climate change is ruining x".

How about this crazy notion: immigration and climate change are not the new phenomenon here. The problem (and the only thing that's changed) is this over possessive attachment to land masses that don't belong to anyone. These people living their inter-generational island hopping lifestyle have been doing this for centuries with no problem.

I agree, but who is running and get paid to run these camps you speak of? Any more info?

Having grown up in a traveling family, and having legally followed work myself around the world, I'm presently in my 4th country. The whole idea of a national identity, although it usually has certain characteristics, tends to fall away after the 3rd country you live in.

There are a lot of issues that people look at in regards to immigration - lower wages, prejudices, etc, but as long as a person is honest, responsible, hardworking, and contributes, I'm happy to have them near me. The media distorts society to look at itself from a perspective with an agenda, escaping that is the biggest step you can take to personal freedom. If you are fortunate enough to live in a good community with a diverse group of people, you soon no longer see them as being from here or there, or being well educated or poorly skilled, you see them as your friends and people you can count on. And that is what is missing from the programming that society is receiving these days, the sense of community and that all can contribute to it.    

And when it comes to refuges who are interned in detainment camps, run by one of the three international corporations that run these 'prisons', what is criminal is the treatment these people receive. These corporations receive about $50K per year per refuge they keep locked up, and there are stories of entire families in detention for years and years. There are vast areas of most countries that need developing, why not set up immigrants where they can live freely and create their own future?  

Cheap labor will cause another problem. The average salary will go down. Local people, who were previously receiving $15 / hr for their work will receive something like $8 / hr.

There would be a huge amount of cheap labor. I said anyone can come in.

The only cost would be citizenship. Citizenship could entail things such as paying for education, social security, ability to own property, business benefits, etc...

lol.... so the problem will be solved if they convert to Christianity?

Anything but muslims

Unlimited


Anywhere


Anyone who thinks they can find a job


Does not matter.


None. If they are persecuted, they will probably want to immigrate more than others anyway.


Very idea of immigration is silly and meaningless in world of internet. Geography based politics and law is stupid and does not make sense.