Topic: How NEWBIES are treated - page 2. (Read 1080 times)

Why do you want everything should come from administrator(theymos). Why we are not taking responsibility for our quality of post and signature bounties we are joining?
Will you like to restrain  knowledgeable guy/Moderators to 50 post limit in a week and wait for another week to respond some queries.
Just follow the Choosing your Signature wisely guideline.

As Jet Cash I've been awarded over 700 merits since the system was implemented. I read a load of comments about getting merits because posters were senior members, so I thought I would try an experiment. I registered Talk Merit, and timed it to optimise the activity system. and I managed to pick up 28 activities in under 2 days. I was then limited by the 14 activity periods, and managed to pick up 10 merits during the time it took to get the required activity for member level. That must be about the fastest time possible to go from "brand new" to member. I didn't announce it was an alt of Jet Cash until I had gained the 10 merits. JetAid was announced as an alt at the time of registration. I didn't try to optimise the activity in this case, but it has still managed to pick up enough merit to become a member when it has gained enough activity.

Of course I have a couple of big advantages. I am English and English is my natural language. I have also been an active member of the forum for 3 years or so, and I have a major interest in Bitcoin, and world economic systems. But I think that my major advantage is that I see Bitcoin Talk as crypto community, and a mutual help and discussion forum. I do not think of it as a cash cow to be milked even when the teats are dry or sore.

When a new member joins Bitcoin Talk he has a choice. He can take the left hand path along the rocky road of bounties. or he can travel the right hand road to green pastures and prosperity with Bitcoin. Some members are able to travel along both paths, but they have usually started on the Bitcoin road, and earned some strong boots to protect them as they walk on the sharp flints of the bounties.

WTF really ?

Bitcointalk just like Bitcoin, It's nice how anyone with difference rank can be join bounty and member Bitcointalk.org starting from newbie up to Hero are assets that will never be found anywhere

Just ignore that feeling OP I know it because I was one of them that got demoted but see I just never thought that I could even rank up to member this time. The lesson learn is to observe the rules and regulations in the thread that theymos has provided in those sticky threads and what did other members do? Ignoring all the important details that one should not be missed out to read.

The problem is not really the forum but those members spamming in some parts of this forum. This is the right thing to do for one to learn and not just by focusing to earn. Learning to do good in this forum is better than earning but doing shitty posts. I have learn so much on this forum and definitely would continue to do good rather than spamming.

Here is the thing that one should consider to earn more:

Self Recflections:

Learn more, be good, receive merits, rank up then earn more!

Treating newbies are usually base on how they are well informed before entering the forum. If you don't know how to search from the beginning, expect many negative treatment about you.

Next are the history of your post. If your not improving through time hanging around in the forum, just leave. You are not needed here. Good bye.  

I do understand your concern towards the newbies. In fact, i agree with you that some new-comers are out there in the forum who do share good posts/help the community and sometimes gets neglected. I would rather say they are not neglected, it's actually the forum is a large community. In some sections you will find that there have been posts more than expected and as new posts comes in the old starts disappearing. On the other hand, if a newbies follows rules and regulations and helps the community i believe there is always a candy(merit) for them.

Many among us here are kind peoples and are likely minded. If someone reads or goes through a post that is really interesting, i believe in order to show gratitude they always leaves behind a merit so that the writer can come up with more topics that can improve the community.

For your information it's not the higher rank's responsibility in helping newbies to improve, that's why higher rank won't help further. Newbies and the demoted jr. members should be responsible for improving themselves. Higher Ranks just pointing out where to start and it's on you to continue learning. Having trouble? If yes, this forum will be good for your problem discussion about the topic you have problems with.

It will not work if 8 out of 10 shit post. If someone post more then 50 in a week and 80% of this post is better, I think that will good for this forum. Now a days bounty hunter's are trying to reach their target according to the rules of specific campaign where they participate, most of them forgets  the forum rules indeed.

It's not about discrimination, this is for the good of the forum. I feel them but what happened now is to make this forum more  informative rather than none sense posts. But if I'll be the one to make the rules I rather prohibited dual account, buying account, multi account in one IP. And also to limit the post of each user in 24 hours depending to their rank. How about newbies should not exceed 3 posts per day, 5 for jr. member, 7 for members, 10 full members and 15 above for hero and legendary.

This is gold! hahaha

I always read comments like.

BAN CAMPAIGNS WITH MIN POST REQUIRED
ONLY HIRE HIGHER RANK MEMBERS
BAN BOTS...

AND SO.. I don't think we will get into something useful, just complaining every time Theymos change the rules.

I get that you are trying to make a point but i think you should try to do some little research before taking a side. I had the same thoughts after the changes and restrictions but i later realized that, this was done to make this forum better. People need to get it that this forum is a source to increase your knowledge on cryptocurrencies and blockchain technology. It is not just any ordinary forum. The forum is like a library containing everything about cryptocurrencies. Entertaining pollutions in this forum will not help preserve the forum.

Yes,  I agree with OP as there are more high ranking members bullying newbies instead of helping them to improve further.  Assisting the newbies is a great way to let them enhance their knowledge and grow maturely.

What a big word . This Merit system and other strict rules of ranking up will not be implemented at all if the forum remains cleaner before. It will not be implemented if the Newbie Invasion never happened (not pertaining to all, only the bad ones). So don't act like mods and higher member ranks are the villains of the story because they're not. They are just tired of tolerating shitposters/spammers everyday that's why they made a very strict rule. If you find this offensive and rude then you still don't have any choice but to follow unless you now want get out of this forum.
Yeah! I get your point and I know what you feel because I experience the same thing sometimes. Some members here are unpleasant but you can't blame them because it's their personality, we don't have the right to please for becoming more nice if they don't really want to. Another factor is you did something wrong that's why their responses at you are in a mad manner, so always check your posts first before complaining.
Believe it or not, that's what I always do especially to my newbie co-members in our local board. I only report those users who extremely did something inappropriate and violated the rules, not the ones who only committed minimal mistakes. However, you should also understamd that others just prefer nuking by hitting the "Report to Moderator" button because it's easier. Nonetheless, just be an obedient and good quality poster of this forum and you will not face any problem.

Stop abusing punctuation would be a good start.

I hope it will help reduce spam a little bit, but unfortunately for account farmers, 1 merit is not a big deal they always can buy it.

Now pretend for a moment that you are not you. Turn to your posting history and start looking through it, specially from the second most recent page of posts onwards. What do you see? Endless wall of social reporting for pages on end. Now being really objective, can you honestly say that what you are envisioning is constructive and may be deemed useful to anyone but you? 

It's quite obvious, members of higher ranks look on newbies posts in a different way !! I been actively participating on the forum and never got a merit or comment related to my post !! That is true even if they can't give a credit for post those made by newbies, They could make a comment on how to improve the content of the post as they have higher experience !! That would be help other members to come out of this demoted-hell !! Most of the time I asked my self why no one care to reward me !!

It might be an interesting experiment if an "anonymous mode" were available or enacted (even temporarily) as an experiment to see how interactions change. This anonymous mode would hide username, trust, merit, activity, post-count and any link to the profile. I wonder if newbies would get treated more fairly or would be dismissed even sooner. In all honesty, members that have been here longer are generally held to a higher-standard to some degree. Whether they are expected to have an elementary understanding of Bitcoin or a more nuanced conceptualization of the rules it is still easier to be a newbie. As long as you are not doing anything malevolent, such as spamming, plagiarizing, scamming or breaking rules then Newbies are treated pretty well, IMO. The only thing they get a bad-rap for is occasionally trying to get involved in auctions or attempting to sell something, but the second they verify they have the funds/goods then they are treated equal. In other words, what I normally see is respect where it is earned, but cordiality at all times unless there has been a misdeed. I think the anonymous mode would work against the newbies, because most do allow you that learning curve.

That being said, too many people are drawn here for the wrong reasons and a lot of they time these users expect the entire forum to change to fit their personality and desires. You can only be so nice.

Sir I think you are one of the most talented forum member here. considering that you have a newbie account with 8 merit is really something and it is an accomplishment. I have been participating since April for a signature campaign. And the campaign took about 6 months to finish if it will not be extended. It is my first signature campaign and I was so sad because my account was dropped to a newbie with the new system. I a bit sad and unhappy because I might not receive a thing from it even with all the hardwork I put in it.  Yet I understand why the new system is important for the entire forum.  And so Instead of going against or murmuring around, I consider everything as a positive change. Now I wanted to learn more techniques from you and on what really is to be done to get merits. I would really appreciate it if you can help me out. This is my first bounty and it is one the longest bounty as well that I have seen. These september 30 will be the end of the campaign and I hope I can still finished it as a junior member. Thank you in advance sir.

You are correct buddy,the new merit requirement for jr.members has a lot of benefits.Thousands of jr.members are spamming all around the forum and it is because it is the most rank they can get and the minimum requirement to participant in bounties especifically in signatures which is why it is a good move for theymos.Such a relief to moderators and admins here who are fighting spams and shitposters this is another good step for the forum.