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September 09, 2024, 06:23:34 AM
Once a match is being under party (s) understanding (agreement) on what results the match may become in a specific period of time or at the end of the match, it has become a fixed match because either both teams or individual players are limited or instructed to perform a particular task in the game.

So then, it is possible to negotiate a fixed match with just a team or even an individual but with the fact you can not determine the possessions of others involved, it is better to negotiate with the teams or the major key holders of the event to make it more possible else, most fixed matches fails.
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September 09, 2024, 05:58:05 AM
The method of doing things keep evolving and modifying. The traditional method of match fixing  has really changed to a great extent. Not a whole number of persons are needed to fix a match. One or more of the following can do the job;
  • The coach: He may decide to bench a good player that will get a goal or a good defender.
  • A player (preferably a striker): To make him not to score.
  • The goalkeeper: To be ineffective in the goal.
  • The official
Etc

In pro leagues for every sport, you'll rarely see them. I don't know if there is still some that's happening and go unnoticed because of how much big money that's being staked for every match and the share that they might get. While it can involve some players without the knowledge of the opponent and other teams.
It happens in every league but very unlikely or minimal in pro leagues due to the level of check and monitoring and the severity of the punishment if caught.
So how does the information being disseminated so easily before the match? Because some of the matches can be fixed but happened to turned out the opposite and we know the reaction of this when it happens that games didn't go as planned, we periodically say that the match there will be winning but in some extent of there are lapses from the players or goalkeeper then it would occurred that game has gone the opposite hence there are people who would lose huge amount for having to stake high. Again if there are information going round about the fixed match what do you think could be their offense either stop sack or sanction for some specific duration of time.
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September 09, 2024, 05:50:58 AM
The method of doing things keep evolving and modifying. The traditional method of match fixing  has really changed to a great extent. Not a whole number of persons are needed to fix a match. One or more of the following can do the job;
  • The coach: He may decide to bench a good player that will get a goal or a good defender.
  • A player (preferably a striker): To make him not to score.
  • The goalkeeper: To be ineffective in the goal.
  • The official
Etc

In pro leagues for every sport, you'll rarely see them. I don't know if there is still some that's happening and go unnoticed because of how much big money that's being staked for every match and the share that they might get. While it can involve some players without the knowledge of the opponent and other teams.
It happens in every league but very unlikely or minimal in pro leagues due to the level of check and monitoring and the severity of the punishment if caught.
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September 09, 2024, 05:42:10 AM
It is almost impossible to recognize match fixing. You can have suspicions when watching the performance of the players or a decision of the referee or judges, but with no exact proof of incentive being involved, you cannot with any confidence call it match-fixing.

The bias some people make is to assume that whenever something is suspicious in the lower leagues, it has to be fixed. Think of how many times you watched the top leagues and did not agree with referees decisions during a match or felt a player or team were performing far below their standards, but no one thinks it could be fixed cause it is not common at that level of the game.

Match fixing exists and goes unnoticed some of the times, but without any official statement, it still is just suspicions.

- Jay -
It's really not possible to know for certain that a game is fixed because people that are playing it are humans and they could just be having a bad day. Unless match fixing has been proved beyond reasonable doubts by a league's management, then any suspicion by anybody is just personal opinion. Although I agree with the members that believes that match fixing will most likely not be in top leagues because of their reputations and the huge returns that they get, clubs and players are very rich. However more suspicions of match fixing will be in the lower and unrecognized leagues because of obvious reasons that the clubs are not rich.

If you see good players, suddenly struggling in a game, then maybe it was just a bad day or what. So it's hard to see specially in top tier league if players are deliberately playing that bad so that they other teams can win or simply they just waking up in the wrong side of the bed.

But maybe in the lower league this could be rampant, as we have heard a lot of game fixing. And some of them have been unraveled causing those involved players, coaches or even referees suspended or even ban in the game for life.
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September 09, 2024, 05:07:55 AM
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It's really not possible to know for certain that a game is fixed because people that are playing it are humans and they could just be having a bad day. Unless match fixing has been proved beyond reasonable doubts by a league's management, then any suspicion by anybody is just personal opinion. Although I agree with the members that believes that match fixing will most likely not be in top leagues because of their reputations and the huge returns that they get, clubs and players are very rich. However more suspicions of match fixing will be in the lower and unrecognized leagues because of obvious reasons that the clubs are not rich.
Lucas Paqueta was one of the players who was involved in a match fixing scandal in the premier league. This one they called spot fixing. He was intentionally receiving several yellow cards in a row during his matches in order to influence the result of the match. It is difficult to spot though in the big leagues.


If you want to spot a fixed match, look at the lower leagues of many countries around the world that is where they are very common. If you head over to any lower leagues in Europe, Asia, Africa, South America etc. In these lower leagues you then have to monitor the odds of the matches played there.

Your suspicion of whether a match is fixed should begin once you notice a dropping odds. While this may not always be the case, still it is a red flag which should not be overlooked especially when there are no valid reasons for it.
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September 09, 2024, 04:24:52 AM
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In pro leagues for every sport, you'll rarely see them.
Yup or even if there were some match fixings, you'd barely know. It is mostly observed in local leagues or games that are held not on a large scale. Athletes do not have that much of a reputation to protect yet at that point so they allow a lot of match fixings.

With pro, money is still a huge factor but in the form of sponsors. Since their games are usually broadcasted on television or online, brands that sponsor teams or players are heavily concerned with how they perform as well as how they act even outside the sport
Yeah, it's hard to check them out if they're for real sold or bought games by one and the other. That's why if you are wanting to avoid them, stick to the all popular sports and leagues so that your money if it lose as per your bet, your money gone will be accepted lightly compared to the ones that has lost against the fixed match. It's actually hard to accept that as per our ego when we've lost and then we suddenly knew it all along that they've been sold.

so  the thing here? never trusty those promising about fix gaming because that is one stupid thing to believe in our age now .
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It is almost impossible to recognize match fixing. You can have suspicions when watching the performance of the players or a decision of the referee or judges, but with no exact proof of incentive being involved, you cannot with any confidence call it match-fixing.

The bias some people make is to assume that whenever something is suspicious in the lower leagues, it has to be fixed. Think of how many times you watched the top leagues and did not agree with referees decisions during a match or felt a player or team were performing far below their standards, but no one thinks it could be fixed cause it is not common at that level of the game.

Match fixing exists and goes unnoticed some of the times, but without any official statement, it still is just suspicions.

- Jay -
It's really not possible to know for certain that a game is fixed because people that are playing it are humans and they could just be having a bad day. Unless match fixing has been proved beyond reasonable doubts by a league's management, then any suspicion by anybody is just personal opinion. Although I agree with the members that believes that match fixing will most likely not be in top leagues because of their reputations and the huge returns that they get, clubs and players are very rich. However more suspicions of match fixing will be in the lower and unrecognized leagues because of obvious reasons that the clubs are not rich.

Valid thinking. As it was said, it is better to seek the upper leagues that probably won't have things like that happening due to what you described (returns and reputation need to stay in check Grin).
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It is almost impossible to recognize match fixing. You can have suspicions when watching the performance of the players or a decision of the referee or judges, but with no exact proof of incentive being involved, you cannot with any confidence call it match-fixing.

The bias some people make is to assume that whenever something is suspicious in the lower leagues, it has to be fixed. Think of how many times you watched the top leagues and did not agree with referees decisions during a match or felt a player or team were performing far below their standards, but no one thinks it could be fixed cause it is not common at that level of the game.

Match fixing exists and goes unnoticed some of the times, but without any official statement, it still is just suspicions.

- Jay -
It's really not possible to know for certain that a game is fixed because people that are playing it are humans and they could just be having a bad day. Unless match fixing has been proved beyond reasonable doubts by a league's management, then any suspicion by anybody is just personal opinion. Although I agree with the members that believes that match fixing will most likely not be in top leagues because of their reputations and the huge returns that they get, clubs and players are very rich. However more suspicions of match fixing will be in the lower and unrecognized leagues because of obvious reasons that the clubs are not rich.
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However, are they willing to sacrifice their professional record for a quick money gain? I don't think so.
That's why you need to bet on big leagues with a good reputation, as they are unlikely to allow game-fixing since a lot of money is at stake, including their future. Just like in the news this year about an NBA player being suspected of game-fixing; he now does not have a contract and will be banned from playing in the NBA again. That's the price they'll pay if they try to fix the game. I believe if we want to find fixed games, those can be found in small leagues, but the limit is also low as bookies already know its possibility.
Yes, that's the only way to avoid these potential fixed matches. They happen mostly on smaller leagues and amateurs.

The bookies are still listing them despite of their reputation but even with that, you have to take care of your money and don't just go with the flow.

Bet only on known big leagues and sports that has a reputation and has a lesser issue against from the match fixers.

Yep, reputation may save nerves from things like were discussed there previously Grin Small analysis done beforehand may save you a day from being a bad one due to fixers.
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We all know match fixing is a deliberate manipulation of the result of a specific event, sports, and anything under the scope of gambling. I have come across to a realization that we may have seen a lot of these in the major leagues in the mainstream sports industry.
I don't think this happens in major European leagues, aside from division c, local country team games etc... most of these games are played behind closed doors and we still trust their analysis? Those are actually games that can be manipulated without any compliance to their local futbal rule - that's if they've got any!

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What I think is that, these has been set up by someone from the inside who has connections from the gambling firms in an attempt to alter the outcome to their favor.
Gambling is rapidly becoming huge, and sports nowadays are becoming more of a business than being a sports itself.
Nobody has access to whatever you may call it -- decisions on what a team plays.... Those players wouldn't get on that pitch only to be controlled by people's opinion, like a robot!! I don't know why you'll prefer to be outwitted by these things than Google them out already ...
The purpose of sportsmanship was to display a paid orientation,film or entertainment.
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We all know match fixing is a deliberate manipulation of the result of a specific event, sports, and anything under the scope of gambling. I have come across to a realization that we may have seen a lot of these in the major leagues in the mainstream sports industry.
I don't think this happens in major European leagues, aside from division c, local country team games etc... most of these games are played behind closed doors and we still trust their analysis? Those are actually games that can be manipulated without any compliance to their local futbal rule - that's if they've got any!

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What I think is that, these has been set up by someone from the inside who has connections from the gambling firms in an attempt to alter the outcome to their favor.
Gambling is rapidly becoming huge, and sports nowadays are becoming more of a business than being a sports itself.
Nobody has access to whatever you may call it -- decisions on what a team plays.... Those players wouldn't get on that pitch only to be controlled by people's opinion, like a robot!! I don't know why you'll prefer to be outwitted by these things than Google them out already ...
The purpose of sportsmanship was to display a paid orientation,film or entertainment.
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Match fixing happens all the time even in other sport apart from football. I have seen many cases when things happens and it was obvious that such incident is as result of match fixing which was an agreement between the both parties. It is quite annoying seeing the obviousness of this kind of things. Although match fixing is ban and it has a great consequences if the officials finally know about it. I normally see such a thing in games like wrestling and other fighting sports. Many of the matches are fixed and the organizers already knows who is going to win but just want to turn the mind of the gamblers so they could lose money when the bet on the match.
Fixing games is very bad and it's such that cannot be stopped completely because the it's done amongst a top few who are involved a d are making money off it so they try their possible best keep it a secret till it's delivered of which sometimes it still remains a secret even when its delivered, but I don't think it's true like you said that most games are predetermined already it's rather only a few that are are those are the ones that are usually considered fixed, the organizers are aware that if they continue to fix matches it will get obvious at a point and they will loose value in that which they are doing.
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It is almost impossible to recognize match fixing. You can have suspicions when watching the performance of the players or a decision of the referee or judges, but with no exact proof of incentive being involved, you cannot with any confidence call it match-fixing.

The bias some people make is to assume that whenever something is suspicious in the lower leagues, it has to be fixed. Think of how many times you watched the top leagues and did not agree with referees decisions during a match or felt a player or team were performing far below their standards, but no one thinks it could be fixed cause it is not common at that level of the game.

Match fixing exists and goes unnoticed some of the times, but without any official statement, it still is just suspicions.

- Jay -


Sometimes you can spot a fixed match from the extra time given, that extra minutes give the players an opportunity to do as they have been directed...but if they were really fixed matches then I don't think anyone would be interested in selling it out fixed matches because he can actually play that game by himself and make millions without telling anyone about... match fixing actually does exist but it is not something you can come by easily
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There is not a single match-fixing is recognized. The person (player) or any other person on the team will be banned or will be fined if there is any proof of match-fixing. Yet small tournaments might be going under match-fixing as all the small matches might not be covered internationally. There are a lot of examples of the punishment of the player and others who are engaged in the match-fixing.

Most just end up as rumours and no proof given. That is because, most people involved in match fixing are in the higher level like the owners of the team, so definitely, they won't disclose if such match-fixing happened. People will see the performance of the players but it would be hard to provide tangible proof that the match was actually fixed.

But as spectator or as a viewer, you will have the notion that something is wrong with their games especially if you are truly familiar with the moves of the athletes. Well, what you can do here is not bet or cancel your bet. You can't do much on this situation as your actions are limited. Just save your funds as soon as you can if you have existing bets.
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There is not a single match-fixing is recognized. The person (player) or any other person on the team will be banned or will be fined if there is any proof of match-fixing. Yet small tournaments might be going under match-fixing as all the small matches might not be covered internationally. There are a lot of examples of the punishment of the player and others who are engaged in the match-fixing.
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These are just my opinion based on my observation. How about you? what do you think?
You have a point about match fixing but I think that is the old pattern but nowadays in franchise tournaments not only one player but the whole group knows about it. This is just my guess. I see nothing like that in some sports betting especially franchise cricket tournaments. At times certain behavior of the players definitely indicates that they have been involved in some kind of fixing in that match. But since there is no official report on fixing, there is no discussion about them. Nowadays it is considered a part of the game. I have seen some gamblers continue to bet after observing that this would be fixing match.
Match fixing happens all the time even in other sport apart from football. I have seen many cases when things happens and it was obvious that such incident is as result of match fixing which was an agreement between the both parties. It is quite annoying seeing the obviousness of this kind of things. Although match fixing is ban and it has a great consequences if the officials finally know about it. I normally see such a thing in games like wrestling and other fighting sports. Many of the matches are fixed and the organizers already knows who is going to win but just want to turn the mind of the gamblers so they could lose money when the bet on the match.
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These are just my opinion based on my observation. How about you? what do you think?
You have a point about match fixing but I think that is the old pattern but nowadays in franchise tournaments not only one player but the whole group knows about it. This is just my guess. I see nothing like that in some sports betting especially franchise cricket tournaments. At times certain behavior of the players definitely indicates that they have been involved in some kind of fixing in that match. But since there is no official report on fixing, there is no discussion about them. Nowadays it is considered a part of the game. I have seen some gamblers continue to bet after observing that this would be fixing match.
It would be hard to expect a group to fix the game because it would be too obvious and would hurt the league a lot if they got caught, especially without a fall guy. My thought is that maybe there's only one or two players in a team rigging the game without the league's knowledge or instruction.

If a league were to instruct a game to be rigged, they wouldn't use a player but rather the referees, as it's easier for them to get the job done. The league would always have a fall guy in such scenarios, just like this one.

Disgraced former NBA ref leaves jail
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I also doubt that there are match fixing in major top leagues in the world, I don't think that they will risk their reputations for once in a while match fixing just to win bets. These clubs and their players are very rich so I don't think that manipulating their matches in any way for financial gratifications will be worth it for them. If we're however talking about lower and unpopular leagues that their clubs and players are not very rich, then I won't doubt about the possibilities of match fixing because of the lack of quality income generations and fan base.
Actually, the big leagues are not free from the practice of match fixing, some have been revealed as in Serie A a few decades ago where it involved several big clubs like Juventus but there are also those who finally stopped the investigation after insufficient evidence, but not enough evidence does not mean it doesn't happen, it's just that those who do it do it very neatly and well organized.
2006 Serie A Scandal
Match-Fixing Investigation La Liga Spain Takes to Serie A Italy

But we as spectators or bettors will never be able to detect it other than just guessing when there is a surprise in the match results but usually we will think it is just a form of surprise and finally find out that it was match-fixing after being reported in the media.

Small/non-popular leagues or small tournaments seem to be a place where match fixing occurs quite a lot like in tennis where match fixing occurs in challenger tournaments, but big tournaments where top players participate I have never heard of it.
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These are just my opinion based on my observation. How about you? what do you think?
You have a point about match fixing but I think that is the old pattern but nowadays in franchise tournaments not only one player but the whole group knows about it. This is just my guess. I see nothing like that in some sports betting especially franchise cricket tournaments. At times certain behavior of the players definitely indicates that they have been involved in some kind of fixing in that match. But since there is no official report on fixing, there is no discussion about them. Nowadays it is considered a part of the game. I have seen some gamblers continue to bet after observing that this would be fixing match.
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In pro leagues for every sport, you'll rarely see them.
Yup or even if there were some match fixings, you'd barely know. It is mostly observed in local leagues or games that are held not on a large scale. Athletes do not have that much of a reputation to protect yet at that point so they allow a lot of match fixings.

With pro, money is still a huge factor but in the form of sponsors. Since their games are usually broadcasted on television or online, brands that sponsor teams or players are heavily concerned with how they perform as well as how they act even outside the sport
Yeah, it's hard to check them out if they're for real sold or bought games by one and the other. That's why if you are wanting to avoid them, stick to the all popular sports and leagues so that your money if it lose as per your bet, your money gone will be accepted lightly compared to the ones that has lost against the fixed match. It's actually hard to accept that as per our ego when we've lost and then we suddenly knew it all along that they've been sold.

In pro leagues for every sport, you'll rarely see them. I don't know if there is still some that's happening and go unnoticed because of how much big money that's being staked for every match and the share that they might get. While it can involve some players without the knowledge of the opponent and other teams. One of the most recent in the pro scene in basketball in the NBA is with Jontay Porter.

He's lost his integrity for some money that he can get from the bettors in exchange of his reputation to be crumpled all of his life and being written in the history of the NBA.
Source: NBA bans player for gambling violations

When I say that it's rarely happening in the prominent leagues, it actually does. But there are still some athletes that are trying to enter the pit and takes risk.

As long as there is big money in gambling behind something there always will be some flavor of match fixing. In the major sports where the stars making millions and millions in salary it might not be that much but college sports, probably way more than people think.  These kids make next to nothing if anything at all.  Someone offers 20k just to make sure a certain set of points comes out is lucrative to make them do it.
That sure it does. That's why most of the sponsors in many sports are gambling sites. Millions are being made from each games and who knows what happens on the backend for these kind of leagues for college sports. But if we'd compare how much contracts the coaches, the players are getting there, they're becoming high end sports too so who knows how the organization is getting money back. Maybe through merch, sponsors and gambling(?). Hehe!  Cheesy
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