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That could be right as we don't knows what match that be match fixing. We can guess that is match fixing without we knows if that is right or wrong. While we analyze the match, we can place the bet on that match without thinks if that is match fixing or not.

We don't have to thinks like that because that can effect to our analyzes. We can't decides when we can place the bet because we wants to finds out if that is match fixing. We will use our time to research about that and we may not place any bet before we knows the truth.

We knows that there is match fixing on the sports but we don't knows which is. Instead to thinks much about that, we just trying to analyze and place a bet. We do not have to thinks much about the result because we just wants to spends our  time to place a bet.
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I don't think match fixing is something that is open that people can see, else we would have been seeing more people and clubs being punished for such act. It is a highly classified activity that may not necessarily involve everyone in the pitch but some selected key people and sometimes the officials. Lately, we have seen a reduction in such allegations, probably due to the intervention of technology. However, I think it is still prevalent in lower divisions where there is less attention unlike the major league. One way I suspect match fixing is when I see the odds of a match continuously changing few hours to the match. This gives me a feeling that the bookies have idea of what the outcome of the match will be. Apart from this way, I really find it difficult know fixed matches before and during the match.
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Sometimes you have the hunch that a match is fixed, but you can hardly ever be sure about it, unless insiders provide evidence (recently we knew about a famous case of a referee paid by the F.C. Barcelona).

I recently heard a former fighter talking about a certain martial art I won't mention, and saying that the question about who will win a fight has in fact a very easy answer: the one who makes "them" earn the most money. Who knows, I would rather believe that this is not the general rule.
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We never know if a game is fixed until it's verified. Maybe we just have to feel the game, and if we believe it's fixed, then we will bet on the right side. As a bettor, I've heard about these fixed game infos, but in reality, I doubt it's really accessible to a group of people unless they are the ones fixing the game in their favor.

However, these people will make sure not to leak the info; otherwise, they'll face jail time if caught. So, some gamblers advertising that they know a fixed game and suggesting we bet on what they say as it's a sure win, we should be smart as it's too good to be true and most of the time ends up being a scam.
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I guess in some tournaments which is not too popular like a division tournament this kind of match-fixing happens still if they get caught there's a sanction for this kind of action. Sports and e-sports is one of the largest tournaments happening so people want to get the title by buying the wins against their opponents lets say players don't allow or tolerate this action but if the management is greedy with the money for sure they will throw the game. You can easily recognize them if the team you are supporting doesn't perform well in the game like they are tired, throwing etc. Could be some intentional move or can be a mistake. If people noticed this we know how does the social media powerful that's the time the organizers make a move to observe their plays and create a result for a penalty or ban.
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We all know match fixing is a deliberate manipulation of the result of a specific event, sports, and anything under the scope of gambling. I have come across to a realization that we may have seen a lot of these in the major leagues in the mainstream sports industry.
I can't remember seeing a fixed match in any major league. They might be popular in some unknown leagues in unknown countries but do you really think that matches can be fixed in La League, Premier League, Seria A, League 1 and Bundesliga? Why should these matches be fixed? They generate lots of money from each match and generate even more if they win. They also generate more money if they win the trophy so to my mind, all games are fair and everyone tries their best to win the trophy because besides lots of money, it earns them fame, new fans and even increased revenue in sales.
I also doubt that there are match fixing in major top leagues in the world, I don't think that they will risk their reputations for once in a while match fixing just to win bets. These clubs and their players are very rich so I don't think that manipulating their matches in any way for financial gratifications will be worth it for them. If we're however talking about lower and unpopular leagues that their clubs and players are not very rich, then I won't doubt about the possibilities of match fixing because of the lack of quality income generations and fan base.
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for most sports, you can easily predict that the match is possibly fixed when you notice a certain player playing below his ability and a team being too relaxed and nonchalant towards winning even when they have clear chances...
This and the other parts I clipped out are still all suspicions, you CANNOT easily tell a match is fixed, cannot tell at all.
Sports are played by humans and everyone performs to different levels on different days due to fatigue you mentioned and other factors. At your place of work, there are days when you screw up, fail to meet deadlines and perform badly all round, that does not indicate your performance was fixed, why do you think it becomes definite for sports?

About the officiating, Wolves made a petition last season for VAR to be scrapped from the EPL, does that also mean that in addition to Madrid and Leverkusen, their matches are also fixed, we can also throw in the Nottingham Forest match close to the end of last season where they feld badly undone.

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It's sad and shameful to say, unfortunately in my country I've seen fixed games, and the very sad part is that it's something very obvious to know when you're facing fixed games. because during the game the referee pretends that he is not seeing all the things that are happening on the field. players let goals in on purpose to benefit teams that have money, sometimes defensive players commit penalties on purpose to benefit teams that have a lot of money, the bookmakers in my country despite sponsoring the football league in my country , they didn't add my country's football so we can place bets

And the reason why my country's bookmakers haven't added my country's football league is because they consider it to be a rigged league that has many fixed games. I stopped watching all the games in my country's football league and I don't watch any games anymore, but unfortunately when I'm watching the news, news about my country's games comes on and within a few minutes of watching the highlights of the games I realize that I still continue with fixed games
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It is almost impossible to recognize match fixing. You can have suspicions when watching the performance of the players or a decision of the referee or judges, but with no exact proof of incentive being involved, you cannot with any confidence call it match-fixing.

for most sports, you can easily predict that the match is possibly fixed when you notice a certain player playing below his ability and a team being too relaxed and nonchalant towards winning even when they have clear chances. In football, real Madrid and Bayern Leverkusen have recieved a lot of criticism from people that some of thier matches are fixed considering how most of the matches comes to an end in several instances and if you clearly look at it most expecially for the aspect of the real Madrid teams, it's almost likely that the matches are fixed and the officials (both the referee and var) are working for the advantage of real Madrid. But somehow, sometimes fatigue could make a player to perform below expectation and there are instances when teams would want to relax some of her players and might loose to a smaller team and even when some of them use all her key players for the match, because they probably don't have anything to loose even if the match goes against them, it might just lead them to become too casual with thier play. Same is what happens with boxing where match fixing is more predominant and investors can easily pay for a match to be willed in Thier favour.
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In pro leagues for every sport, you'll rarely see them.
Yup or even if there were some match fixings, you'd barely know. It is mostly observed in local leagues or games that are held not on a large scale. Athletes do not have that much of a reputation to protect yet at that point so they allow a lot of match fixings.

With pro, money is still a huge factor but in the form of sponsors. Since their games are usually broadcasted on television or online, brands that sponsor teams or players are heavily concerned with how they perform as well as how they act even outside the sport
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There have been, are, and will be fixed matches. Of course, in those championships where there is a thorough check, such matches are much more difficult to hold, but everything in our lives (as sad as it is to understand) always depends on the amount of money that can be agreed upon. In my country, local championships often resort to such unfair play. When a team surrenders a game, it still receives a cash reward, and its opponent receives a higher level in the standings. The sport, as it was originally corrupted by people, turned into the same dishonest business we see so often due to their greed.
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Some match-fixing isn't just bribing and two teams conspiring the result; some are arranged by the commission and promotion, like if you see a mismatch. If you see a match where almost an NBA all-star team is matched with a midget sophomore team. Or in some boxing matches people will call it a tune-up match, it's usually just a fixed match to boost the confidence of an inactive athlete.

It's not necessarily like they are making the match the most promoted fights, some fixed matches are just vaguely understood by seasoned sports bettors.
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In some esports, this can be common to lower-tier types of teams and tournaments. And we can relate that I guess to the amateur sporting events that are listed on the bookies.

But to figure them out if the match is fixed or not, you can't tell that easily.

Only those that have an idea behind it will know that if a match is fixed and this is for the mafias or organizations that are behind it.
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These are just my opinion based on my observation. How about you? what do you think?

Match fixing could also be a player intentionally picking yellow or red cards as in the case of West Ham's Brazilian player Lucas Paqueta. In most cases, gamblers will not identify a fixed game until investigations are carried out and reported in the media. However, match-fixing is rare in most top leagues or competitions because these games are under high scrutiny. Players who are guilty of match-fixing are heavily sanctioned. So this punishment serves as a deterrent to other players not to engage in the same practice.

But match-fixing is common in developing nations and low-level leagues. Players in these leagues earn little money which makes them prone to accepting match-fixing deals. In some of these leagues, you can easily dictate that these matches are fixed when you see players making clear moves that give their opponents an advantage.
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Match fixing is not always that obvious to recognise AFAIK because it's not always limited to which team wins! And with several markets available, a player can be bought to commit a foul, get yellow carded, concede a penalty and many other possibilities which makes it very difficult to spot unless same players committing the same crimes several times...and these days its very difficult fix a match by buying the whole team because the punishment to the team can be damaging to it's future.

Though lower unknown leagues have been known to be involved in these match fixing scandals because of betting and the financial benefit to them is great.
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It is difficult to completely say some matches were fixed. But most times I feel like something is going on in the match but you don't know how certain you are because they tend to blend everything up so that you wont notice such things are going on in the match. Imagine a scenario where you know a player is good at and he won't mix the chances on a normal day and in some matches you see them make a silly mistake. I used to wonder if it is indeed a mistake as mistake is inevitable or they intentional did it.

Not only players but referees can also be bribed. I notice that coaches are also bribed to play a particular player on the field, in so many ways coaches can be bribed. 
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Most of the match fixing involves bribery. It could be that someone is paying a specific player to underperform, an officials to make bias calls, or paid the judges to make bias results. Involving a few people to a match fixing will save them a lot than bribing the whole team.


Usually bribing doesn't involve so many people, it is usually for and between few people so as to conceal it and it doesn't spread widely at the moment when it was committed and when in the future, it requires prove and dies a natural death as rumour or suspicion. So many few players might know about it to make it a secret. However, such people stand to be sanctioned if it gets to the organizers.




I believe we've seen a lot of these circumstances already and most people think it's just human errors. What I think is that, these has been set up by someone from the inside who has connections from the gambling firms in an attempt to alter the outcome to their favor.


This has to be the way that an insider works to alter the suppose already outing and performance of the game to deceive the bettors. Like sometimes it could highly be suspicious when a team tipped by bettors to win suddenly lose the match especially with low performance. But this is really difficult to prove. It is difficult to prove match fixing even when you are suspicious of it mostly in lower leagues.
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We all know match fixing is a deliberate manipulation of the result of a specific event, sports, and anything under the scope of gambling. I have come across to a realization that we may have seen a lot of these in the major leagues in the mainstream sports industry.
I can't remember seeing a fixed match in any major league. They might be popular in some unknown leagues in unknown countries but do you really think that matches can be fixed in La League, Premier League, Seria A, League 1 and Bundesliga? Why should these matches be fixed? They generate lots of money from each match and generate even more if they win. They also generate more money if they win the trophy so to my mind, all games are fair and everyone tries their best to win the trophy because besides lots of money, it earns them fame, new fans and even increased revenue in sales.
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We all know match fixing is a deliberate manipulation of the result of a specific event, sports, and anything under the scope of gambling. I have come across to a realization that we may have seen a lot of these in the major leagues in the mainstream sports industry.
Some people think match fixing is almost exclusively a definition of 2 teams collaborating to end up with a planned outcome, like the total score, each team's scores, or an individual player's score to influence the betting results. But it wasn't really limited to that. Most of the match fixing involves bribery. It could be that someone is paying a specific player to underperform, an officials to make bias calls, or paid the judges to make bias results. Involving a few people to a match fixing will save them a lot than bribing the whole team.
I believe we've seen a lot of these circumstances already and most people think it's just human errors. What I think is that, these has been set up by someone from the inside who has connections from the gambling firms in an attempt to alter the outcome to their favor.
Gambling is rapidly becoming huge, and sports nowadays are becoming more of a business than being a sports itself.
These are just my opinion based on my observation. How about you? what do you think?

It's really hard to spot them until you see the game and how it progresses that something is not right. But unless you have inside information before hand that there is a match fix and they've given you tip about it and who is going to win then who knows, maybe you will take advantage of it.

First hand experience though is on horse racing, we've known some horse trainer so he will send us text message before the race itself. And he will tell if their horse or any other horse has a good chance to win before other jockeys or the horse owner themselves will not push for their horse to win so that they will be underdog in the next race and that is the time they will give the jockey to push their horse. But sometimes the committee will notice it and give those jockey or horse owner suspensions.
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It is almost impossible to recognize match fixing. You can have suspicions when watching the performance of the players or a decision of the referee or judges, but with no exact proof of incentive being involved, you cannot with any confidence call it match-fixing.

The bias some people make is to assume that whenever something is suspicious in the lower leagues, it has to be fixed. Think of how many times you watched the top leagues and did not agree with referees decisions during a match or felt a player or team were performing far below their standards, but no one thinks it could be fixed cause it is not common at that level of the game.

Match fixing exists and goes unnoticed some of the times, but without any official statement, it still is just suspicions.

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