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Topic: How safe is it to invest in just-dice - page 3. (Read 15252 times)

newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
January 23, 2015, 08:33:12 AM
There is also primedice..i want to know the minimum amount of betting and investment..i think investment is in primedice as well..i have just entered the gambling world dont have much btc maybe 1btc is required to invest..i will start with just-dice
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 500
January 23, 2015, 05:12:25 AM
so just curious is this alt coin will drop like doge coin did?

DOGE had a market cap of well over 50 million dollars.

CLAMS current market cap is about $413,000... I think we have room to grow!  Honestly,  CLAM is much better structured than DOGE.  Similar but much better fundamentally (in my opinion.)

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/clams/

Only reason to have server racks with PoS is for this:

https://i.imgur.com/5JtgKZd.jpg
I somewhat wonder why dooglus chose to use CLAMS over bitcoin (or another altcoin). As you mentioned CLAMS' market cap is tiny when compared to even very minor altcoins.

I would say that reopening in clams will cause JD to have a much lower profit potential

If you are invested in the bankroll, more investors mean you are dilluted so you earn less but most new investors have to buy CLAM so the price of CLAM goes up and you win.
member
Activity: 81
Merit: 10
January 21, 2015, 04:47:45 PM
Interesting , I do not see company info on satoshidice dot com. How do you know who is the owner and is he US citizen? Is the company behind the website US company?

As far as the owner's concerned I would say very safe. Of course there's the variance to worry about and the fact that it regards a unlicensed online casino (SEC is pursuing Erik Voorhees for SatoshiDice).
legendary
Activity: 930
Merit: 1010
January 20, 2015, 11:19:13 PM
so just curious is this alt coin will drop like doge coin did?

DOGE had a market cap of well over 50 million dollars.

CLAMS current market cap is about $413,000... I think we have room to grow!  Honestly,  CLAM is much better structured than DOGE.  Similar but much better fundamentally (in my opinion.)

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/clams/

Only reason to have server racks with PoS is for this:

https://i.imgur.com/5JtgKZd.jpg
I somewhat wonder why dooglus chose to use CLAMS over bitcoin (or another altcoin). As you mentioned CLAMS' market cap is tiny when compared to even very minor altcoins.

I would say that reopening in clams will cause JD to have a much lower profit potential

That is exactly what he wanted!
full member
Activity: 123
Merit: 100
January 20, 2015, 11:00:13 PM
so just curious is this alt coin will drop like doge coin did?

DOGE had a market cap of well over 50 million dollars.

CLAMS current market cap is about $413,000... I think we have room to grow!  Honestly,  CLAM is much better structured than DOGE.  Similar but much better fundamentally (in my opinion.)

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/clams/

Only reason to have server racks with PoS is for this:

https://i.imgur.com/5JtgKZd.jpg
I somewhat wonder why dooglus chose to use CLAMS over bitcoin (or another altcoin). As you mentioned CLAMS' market cap is tiny when compared to even very minor altcoins.

I would say that reopening in clams will cause JD to have a much lower profit potential
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 500
January 19, 2015, 09:37:43 AM
Just-dice is in CLAM now. It looks like it will stay in CLAM even if it could come back to Bitcoin one day. You can now declare an offsite investment and get a bigger portion of profits but more risks for your onsite investment.
full member
Activity: 135
Merit: 100
January 18, 2015, 06:14:18 PM
so just curious is this alt coin will drop like doge coin did?

DOGE had a market cap of well over 50 million dollars.

CLAMS current market cap is about $413,000... I think we have room to grow!  Honestly,  CLAM is much better structured than DOGE.  Similar but much better fundamentally (in my opinion.)

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/clams/

Only reason to have server racks with PoS is for this:



thanks for the insight esp about the market cap. But damn, I wish I had money like that laying around lol.

That picture says, im too rich.. lol.
full member
Activity: 229
Merit: 134
January 18, 2015, 03:28:39 AM
Just for fun I ported the JavaScript verifier to a simple Python script, I hope it is right, worked for all bets I tested it with:

http://pastebin.com/uB1675LG

Do you mind if I link to a copy of that on the site?
Sure, you can use the script for whatever you like. Additional note: needs Python >=3.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
January 17, 2015, 11:16:00 PM
Just for fun I ported the JavaScript verifier to a simple Python script, I hope it is right, worked for all bets I tested it with:

http://pastebin.com/uB1675LG

Do you mind if I link to a copy of that on the site?
full member
Activity: 229
Merit: 134
January 17, 2015, 06:49:32 PM
Just for fun I ported the JavaScript verifier to a simple Python script, I hope it is right, worked for all bets I tested it with:

http://pastebin.com/uB1675LG

How provably fair works: when you click the "randomize" button, write down the server seed hash. Then gamble. Finally hit the randomize button again, click "ok" to generate a new server seed and then the "randomize" button again: it will show you the server seed which was used for your last rolls with the previous server seed. Use this, the hash and your client seed and start my script (or the JavaScript verifiers linked from the "Fair?" page at just-dice.com). It will test, if the server seed hash was created from the server seed and you will see the same lucky numbers. No cheating possible.
legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 1248
Owner at AltQuick.com
January 17, 2015, 02:52:59 PM
so just curious is this alt coin will drop like doge coin did?

DOGE had a market cap of well over 50 million dollars.

CLAMS current market cap is about $413,000... I think we have room to grow!  Honestly,  CLAM is much better structured than DOGE.  Similar but much better fundamentally (in my opinion.)

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/clams/

Only reason to have server racks with PoS is for this:

newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
January 17, 2015, 02:42:20 PM
does anyone know where to find clam coins super cheap?

You can dig them on non dust doge ltc and btc addresses of the day of CLAM distribution in May 2014. You can try the addresses on just-dice chat, more on the just-dice FAQ.

Or this faucet for dust CLAM where there is still 1CLAM to grab Grin http://myfreeclams.com/

so just curious is this alt coin will drop like doge coin did?
member
Activity: 67
Merit: 10
January 17, 2015, 01:50:17 PM
damn where the heck have I been? i just noticed just-dice being reopened using that alt coin lol.
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 500
January 16, 2015, 06:00:31 PM
does anyone know where to find clam coins super cheap?

You can dig them on non dust doge ltc and btc addresses of the day of CLAM distribution in May 2014. You can try the addresses on just-dice chat, more on the just-dice FAQ.

Or this faucet for dust CLAM where there is still 1CLAM to grab Grin http://myfreeclams.com/
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
January 16, 2015, 03:45:54 PM
does anyone know where to find clam coins super cheap?
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
January 16, 2015, 02:41:17 PM
just dice is legit as it gets outside from primedice. everythings been a scam lately or a ponzi.
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 500
January 16, 2015, 11:42:32 AM
Just-dice bankroll is at 300 000$ now. It should keep growing as the bankroll grows and even more if the price of BTC goes up.
The /cold command will grow the bankroll but not the amount of CLAM that dooglus is responsible for.
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 500
January 13, 2015, 04:37:57 PM
Just-dice and doog have a excellent reputation and personally I would say pretty safe. But things happen, think about gox or inputs.io... you should never leave more money than you can afford to lose on any site.

I agree with this wholeheartedly even though I would trust those sites with my whole wallet! Definitely don't put in more than you can afford to lose. That goes for any and every gambling thing you do.

The thing is even just-dice can be hacked.
full member
Activity: 229
Merit: 134
January 12, 2015, 01:43:09 AM
I wonder if it is possible to write some clever algorithm which predicts the next number, if you roll the dice thousands of times and use all the numbers for it, because a new server seed is generated only when I click the randomize button, and all other input numbers are known. The invested money would be gone very fast. Maybe better to generate a new server seed for each roll, of course with the same provably fair concept, that the gambler can see the server seed hash before rolling, and then with the randomize button the client random number can be changed. Just changing the random number independently with the same server seed, might be dangerous, because of some clever algorithm.

Does the site stop, if someone manages to write such a clever algorithm and wins e.g. more than half of the site investment, to investigate it? Or did the site admin get notified, if someone wins with 1000% luck in the stats and similar things?

And how safe is the server seed generator? It should be a true random number generator. Just software is not safe, because you have to assume that the source code is known. "/dev/random" might work, depending on the CPU, but might be not fast enough, with the new server seed generation concept.

Finally how safe are the servers? Is the source code and server setup audited by a security company? Does it have intrusion detection systems, DDoS firewall protection, multiple fallback servers around the world, good data backup systems etc.?
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 500
January 11, 2015, 08:52:39 AM
I will like to be able to have 100 CLAM on just-dice counted as 1000 CLAM so I will be happy when you implement the change.

I have a version of the site up for testing that allows you to do exactly that.

See my post here for details:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10101347

I am on it and testing, it should be fun when you implement it on just-dice! People will likely be less crazy when it's their money than when it's play money.
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