Topic: How the new rules "Merits" will affect on the promotion of altcoins? (Read 964 times)

I'm kinda confused about the whole merit and activity, could someone please explain what the new standard is

Right on man It's definitely a way to keep the prols in there place, if they think that a newbie is going to rise up the ranks (using this new system) on his or her own merit then they are living in some sort of fantasy world. Like I said before the merit points are just being distributed among those who do not really need them, it's just a way to boost there own inflated egos.

You perfectly right, very few chances to get Merits... It's a way to ban entry to bounty campaigns to new ones and have less competitions !

Yes, that is exactly what they should be doing to encouraging new members to contribute to the community, so what you are saying is that a newbie who makes a great post that contributes to the community should be denied any merits because they are just a newbie ?

What else do you expect from them? Blindly giving out smerits to someone who has joined the forum a week or day ago ?
Dude you don't own those smerits it's their so let them do what they want with it rather than complaining about it.

It does not take a genius to figure out. Once again, supply and demand. The demand for ICO promotion is objectively growing, the amount of members in the forum is increasing and now high raking members have become a really scarce resource. Hence, a user is more "expensive" now.

Yes this makes sense but if you look at the stats for the Legendary members they are giving out most of there merits to other legendary and Hero members, how is that helping the community, it's just the rich feeding the rich and leaving us poor souls to starve.
It's like politicians voting to give themselves a pay rise.

Forum members can give you merit, the higher their rank is the more points they have to give out and they can give away half of the merit they are getting from others. There are also merit sources who get a number of points every month. That was a shortened version in, if you want to read more go here


They get merit because you can give away some of your received merit to others. If they couldn't receive merit they'd have a limited supply and would end up hoarding it.
If you rank up to maximum you still want to be able to help others rank up. Makes sense, right?

I don't think that it will affect the promotion of altcoins that much but instead it might increase the rate of campaigns. Coz not many people can join due to this merit system.
Yes indeed.but in every campaign is not of altcoins.
But I would say it will affect all the campaigns.

It would take at least 4 years to reach the HERO MEMBER because of the merit system (theymos did this for the sake of the forum, because the soul in posting high quality post are dying). If someone is concerned about this because they can't rape a bounty campaign because of the new system then you are just here for the money and not considering the sake of the forum. As we all see the campaigns are one of the main reasons why there are so many off-topic posts, remember that every campaign need at least 10 posts per week, how about a hundred thousand members that has a 10 posts per week? That would be a million posts per week. Even a pretty good poster will run out of words and people will run out of topics here, because it is required to post they (we) have no choice but to post.
The merit system is good for the forum, and I don't think that the promotion of altcoins will change because Jr. Accounts can still participate in the social media campaigns and the forum has a very high credibility in the crypto world. Some of the best investors are not even participating in the campaigns here and they are just visiting this forum and see if there is a new ICO's.
If this is a battle of survival, then those who will stay here is worth it in promoting ICO's than all the newbies and members that are posting garbage just to have a new post.

This must be the worst idea ever. For starters why do Legendary members need to receive merit points, they are already at the top of the tree so to them merits are useless. Legendary members should be able to issue merits but not receive them.

The merit system is wide open to abuse, you can see it happening already, where the points are just being distributed among friends and not because the think a post deserves it, look at the stats for the Legendary members they are distributing the vast majority of there merit points among themselves.

One or the Legendary members said that if you post quality posts you will soon move up the ranks, what planet is he living on ? How many people are going to give me any merits no mater how good my posts are, they will just give them there friends and others they are familiar with.
To get up to Full Member I need 100 merit points, with the 1000's of people and 10,000's of posts how is that going to ever happen. (I'm baffled as to how I managed to get 1 merit point already, thanks to whoever gave it, it was appreciated).

Sorry, I can't still comprehend the new merit system. Who really gives the merit points – the admins or the forum members?

I think the new merit rules will increase the quality of the forum. But also I think the first merit distribution was really injustice. In my opinion, the first merits should have distributed in proportion to activities.

I have followed this thread to better understand the implications of the new Merit system on member profiling without grasping much. Alk I could make out is that it  has to do with the quality of posts on the forum. This will be effective for checking spanmers and shithole posters on the forum, but to those who are consistent with quality posts the Merit system will pose a kind of drawback because their ranking up will now depend on the subjective views of some members of the  community on such users' posts. It's like one stepping on the gas pedal and another wheeling the car.

After observing the system for a few days and the continual amount of shitposts, I think it's good. At least a lot of these users won't be ranking up anymore. Even me I cannot any longer reach Senior Member unless I make good quality posts, and that's great.

However the one concern I've had and continue to have is this "grandfathering in". A lot of Hero/Legendary accounts have already been farmed and are the worst shitposters. I still believe that the "free" merit awarded to everyone should expire after 1 year, to give everyone an equal playing field in earning their merit fairly. Before the ICO boom this wouldn't have been necessary.. but there's just too many crap high ranks accounts now to give out free merit like that.

I agree that spammers and shitposters had to be stopped.
In some way, the merit system will achieve this goal, but in the same time it kills any chance for people like me to grow, and this is not good for the ecology of the system: we put some effort if we have a hope to have results, otherwise we'll lose interest.
(don't tell me the story that if I write good post people will give me some merits: they are a fixed number, low rank people don't have or have very few, so for sure they'll keep them for friends)
If all low rank people will stop posting, for sure there will be no more spam or shit post (not completely true: high rank have to respect campaign agreements, and don't need merit. I'm not so sure that they will make masterwork at any post) but very fast the whole forum will lose its value.
Btw, we can't judge so early, so this is just my first impression.

You would need to move this thread to the meta section. As it is written, does not belong in Alts.

I'm new so it's hard to tell how difficult this might make progression on this forum for newbies.  Time will tell.

The new rules of the bitcointalk forum i dont know now if good or not because i read many comment here so i think we need to accept  the new  rules of bitcointalk forum

nice reset an opportunity to benefit from neutral posts