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legendary
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August 28, 2020, 05:27:57 AM
#26
Can theymos work with the requirement "any user who posted in topic 4720640?

@theymos

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legendary
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February 18, 2020, 02:25:53 PM
#25
As I was reading it, I had LoyceV in mind.  I've had several giveaways that I wanted them to be a part of, which they surely deserve more than most.
Thanks Cheesy

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@LoyceV ... I wonder if where you live there is some sort of service that you could get packages dropped off and held to be picked up (through prior arrangment) under an alias?  Surely something like this exists?
I don't think that's possible. Some shops allow packages to be delivered and picked up, but they always want to know who you are. I guess it would be too easy to abuse for ordering illegal stuff if uses an alias.
I can think of a way in which someone burries a package on the beach, and sends me GPS-coordinates, but that looks like a fiat ransom payment delivery.

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I will likely do another giveaway for Iasenko and the SpamBusters soon and will definetly want to use this. Thanks again.
Can theymos work with the requirement "any user who posted in topic 4720640?
legendary
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February 18, 2020, 11:10:49 AM
#24
I got what is Theymos's idea but sending a package with just an address and not a name when the package/gift you are receiving is expensive is risky. I wouldn't take a chance of not sending my name
You could use your real name with your real address. That information is probably not very secret anyone for someone who knows your address.

This feature would surely improve privacy on the forum if it is utilized. I have once mentally declined participation in a contest cause it could potentially compromise my identity and location on the forum.
I've never bought anything physical nor joined any physical giveaways because of privacy concerns. Even with this newly changed system I don't think I'll join.

Thank you Theymos for taking the time to mock this up! As I was reading it, I had LoyceV in mind.  I've had several giveaways that I wanted them to be a part of, which they surely deserve more than most. I guess there is really nothing more then that can be done,

@LoyceV ... I wonder if where you live there is some sort of service that you could get packages dropped off and held to be picked up (through prior arrangment) under an alias?  Surely something like this exists? Just a thought. Would like a service like this for myself.

I will likely do another giveaway for Iasenko and the SpamBusters soon and will definetly want to use this. Thanks again.
legendary
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February 18, 2020, 02:44:44 AM
#23
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February 17, 2020, 07:58:41 PM
#22
Would you consider allowing a random contest to be performed this way? For example, there will be only one item being shipped chosen from all entrants. If only one person is receiving an item, there is no reason for everyone to send their shipping address, and choosing out of unpublished codes can lead to possible claims of not actually giving anything away.
Sounds like a nice system for the Collectibles section. Would it also be possible to make the giveaway accessible to anyone, limiting the giveaway to the first [insert random amount] people, preferable with a rank above Full Member (or a different prefered rank)?

Those are possible under the current framework. For limited numbers, you can just stop accepting codes after a while. For random winners:
 1. Have people send you a Bitcoin address along with their code instead of their mailing address. Also have them save a copy of their code just in case.
 2. Every time you receive a code, publish a hash of it.
 3. Choose a winner from the public list of hashes using an acceptable method. The winner should contact you with a signed message using the Bitcoin address you negotiated before. As a fallback, they can also just give you their code again, since only they should have it, though I'd be uneasy using this as the primary method of authentication.

I think that this feature is very niche. Maybe I'm wrong, but I expect to get on average fewer than 1 giveaway-creation request per month. So I don't want to create a big, complicated system for it.
legendary
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February 17, 2020, 06:20:37 PM
#21
This will be an excellent feature for those that might need another way to drum up publicity for their name/brand.

I'm not sure that anyone will ask to set up this sort of giveaway, but I wanted to mention the possibility. If more than a few people ask me to set these up, I'll probably make it so that anyone can set them up themselves.
legendary
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February 17, 2020, 12:31:43 PM
#20
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This is a great feature theymos, the only thing I don't like about it is that we have to bother you for creating the giveaway. I personally have done in the past lot of giveaways in the Spanish section, and I didn't know we have a tool for this. The giveaways i have done are close to $10 so, i don't think this tool works for small giveaways. It could be a waste of time and resources.

I will add a couple of threads of my giveaways and i would like to know if I should use this tool to make more giveaways in the future.

Giveaways made by me the past year:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ordena-la-frase-por-0001-btc-5126071
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fuerza-bruta-en-sitios-web-giveaway-5117693
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/direcciones-de-vanidad-giveaway-5104776
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ultimo-giveaway-del-2018-10-en-premios-5083430
legendary
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February 17, 2020, 07:09:33 AM
#19
I got what is Theymos's idea but sending a package with just an address and not a name when the package/gift you are receiving is expensive is risky. I wouldn't take a chance of not sending my name
You could use your real name with your real address. That information is probably not very secret anyone for someone who knows your address.

This feature would surely improve privacy on the forum if it is utilized. I have once mentally declined participation in a contest cause it could potentially compromise my identity and location on the forum.
I've never bought anything physical nor joined any physical giveaways because of privacy concerns. Even with this newly changed system I don't think I'll join.
legendary
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February 17, 2020, 07:02:43 AM
#18
--snip--

I got what is Theymos's idea but sending a package with just an address and not a name when the package/gift you are receiving is expensive is risky. I wouldn't take a chance of not sending my name and just an address as if it's not sent because it has no name, I would need to submit ID and all to prove that package belongs to me. I don't know how it works in other countries but here in India, they check the name and then the address when it's at the post office/courier.

You should send your name aswell, so the sender will know your name + address (i always assume your full address includes your name anyways, that's why i didn't really get your question the first time). The thing the sender does not know is which bitcointalk account the name + address belongs to.
legendary
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February 17, 2020, 06:58:57 AM
#17

The sender has to have an address so he knows where to send the package. What Theymos's idear actually does is break the link between the bitcointalk account of the receiver and the physical address of the receiver that's being sent to the sender.

In my case, i'll receive an address from the winner, i know this address belongs to one of the thousands of accounts that are >= full member without negative trust from DT1, but i have no idear what the bitcointalk username of the winner is, so i cannot link him/her to any posts he/she made on bitcointalk.


I got what is Theymos's idea but sending a package with just an address and not a name when the package/gift you are receiving is expensive is risky. I wouldn't take a chance of not sending my name and just an address as if it's not sent because it has no name, I would need to submit ID and all to prove that package belongs to me. I don't know how it works in other countries but here in India, they check the name and then the address when it's at the post office/courier.
hero member
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February 17, 2020, 06:56:13 AM
#16
How about making a giveaways section? Then we members can go through the list instead of manually finding each one.

If we want separate sections for different giveaways, then their purposes would be invalid.  It's worth noting that there's a games & round section already that handles public giveaways. Theymos is just bringing more awareness that there's a private giveaway feature that giveaway organizers can utilize should they need the giveaway to be conducted privately.  Every other giveaways can done from the games & round section.


legendary
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February 17, 2020, 06:51:28 AM
#15
I'm still confused as in the mailing address as well people have lockers and have to specify the recipient's name on the gift so that the right person would receive it. If no name and just address is mentioned, how will it work? It will be an anonymous package then.

The sender has to have an address so he knows where to send the package. What Theymos's idear actually does is break the link between the bitcointalk account of the receiver and the physical address of the receiver that's being sent to the sender.

In my case, i'll receive an address from the winner, i know this address belongs to one of the thousands of accounts that are >= full member without negative trust from DT1, but i have no idear what the bitcointalk username of the winner is, so i cannot link him/her to any posts he/she made on bitcointalk.
legendary
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February 17, 2020, 06:46:20 AM
#14
I'm still confused as in the mailing address as well people have lockers and have to specify the recipient's name on the gift so that the right person would receive it. If no name and just address is mentioned, how will it work? It will be an anonymous package then.
legendary
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February 17, 2020, 06:44:49 AM
#13
Thx for making things crystal clear now Smiley Looking forward for the thread.
legendary
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February 17, 2020, 06:13:39 AM
#12
I'd like to try that as well and see how it works. Just to make sure I understand you completely: you allow >= Full Member, or strictly > Full Member?

>= Full member...

I'll update my post right away, i should have been more clearly when i wrote down the specs Smiley
legendary
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February 17, 2020, 05:54:52 AM
#11
Could you create a private giveaway for me, anybody above full member without negative trust from DT1 can enter.

PS: this is the first time i ever try to dropship something... Fingers crossed

I'd like to try that as well and see how it works. Just to make sure I understand you completely: you allow >= Full Member, or strictly > Full Member?
legendary
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February 17, 2020, 05:18:14 AM
#10
I set it up previously for a giveaway that someone was going to do, but which never happened (yet?).
This is okay but will you be able to find time to set up this theymos? What if someone asked you to and the giveaway is so huge volume of participants? Anyway maybe this is possible.

How about making a giveaways section? Then we members can go through the list instead of manually finding each one.
This isnt bad idea but is it that redundant for games and round section? We already have section for giveaway. Maybe just post there.

Could you create a private giveaway for me, anybody above full member without negative trust from DT1 can enter.

PS: this is the first time i ever try to dropship something... Fingers crossed
I love to join mate @mocacinno. Hope this will push through. First legit giveaway done in forum without censorship.
legendary
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February 17, 2020, 05:01:45 AM
#9
@Theymos:

I'll bite the bullet Smiley
I'll create a giveaway for a cheap bitcoin keychain from aliexpress (i'll try to dropship it) in a locked topic and accept users that have a valid giveaway code via email, once the slots are filled i'll unlock the topic, post a full list of giveaway codes next to a slot (0-f) and a future block for which the last character of the hash will determine the winner.

Could you create a private giveaway for me, anybody equal to or above full member without negative trust from DT1 can enter.

PS: this is the first time i ever try to dropship something... Fingers crossed

EDIT: added "equal to or", the previous description wasn't clear enough...
legendary
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February 17, 2020, 04:43:43 AM
#8
For point 1, is this way effective enough sir? I mean that you will be a bit busy to receive lots of PMs by implementing this step.
Theymos hinted that there haven't been lots of interests in such private giveaways, and possibly he/she is not expecting applications which will be more then he can handle. If it does become so, I'm guessing there would be a contingency plan to cover for it.

I'm not sure that anyone will ask to set up this sort of giveaway, but I wanted to mention the possibility. If more than a few people ask me to set these up, I'll probably make it so that anyone can set them up themselves.

This feature would surely improve privacy on the forum if it is utilized. I have once mentally declined participation in a contest cause it could potentially compromise my identity and location on the forum.
hero member
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February 17, 2020, 04:02:55 AM
#7
How about making a giveaways section? Then we members can go through the list instead of manually finding each one.
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