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Topic: How to do private giveaways - page 2. (Read 876 times)

legendary
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duelbits.com
February 17, 2020, 01:28:55 AM
#6
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 1. PM me with a list of all user IDs eligible to receive something in the giveaway, or an exact set of conditions which users must meet in order to be eligible (eg. "any user who joined before with merit above and activity above ").
 2. I will create a URL like https://bitcointalk.org/giveaway.php?id=123 for you (note: 404 currently). Everyone who wants to receive something in the giveaway has to go to that URL and get a giveaway code.
 3. They send the giveaway code to you along with their mailing address, and you'll verify the code at another bitcointalk.org page. You also have to keep a list of already-used codes so that people can't reuse them. You should publish some out-of-band way of accepting codes, such as an email address or a Google Forms form: if you only accept codes via forum PM, then people have to create throwaway accounts to PM you, which is annoying. You absolutely must not send someone an item without a code, even if they PM you from an account you can see is eligible for the giveaway, since otherwise someone could also send you their code anonymously and end up getting 2 items.
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If this is some kind of steps, I think it is better to explain it with pictures. So, it will be easier to understand the steps to do private giveaways. To be honest, I still don't understand enough about this. Why there is a private giveaway? And what are the major differences between common giveaways? Is this really needed for us, sir?

For point 1, is this way effective enough sir? I mean that you will be a bit busy to receive lots of PMs by implementing this step. I think it will be better to post on a special thread of "private giveaway eligible users". Although this looks like to be less of privacy, it seems to be more effective. Then, the next step can be planned to have more private ways. So overall, it is still private in the end.

IMO, CMIIW..
legendary
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฿uy ฿itcoin
February 16, 2020, 11:19:39 PM
#5
Sounds like a nice system for the Collectibles section. Would it also be possible to make the giveaway accessible to anyone, limiting the giveaway to the first [insert random amount] people, preferable with a rank above Full Member (or a different prefered rank)?
copper member
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Amazon Prime Member #7
February 16, 2020, 10:02:06 PM
#4
Would you consider allowing a random contest to be performed this way? For example, there will be only one item being shipped chosen from all entrants. If only one person is receiving an item, there is no reason for everyone to send their shipping address, and choosing out of unpublished codes can lead to possible claims of not actually giving anything away.

It could work like this, anyone eligible can claim a code until a deadline, a random function could be used to choose which code is the winner and the winning code could be published so whoever has that code can send their address to receive the item.

Another request would be to publish the number of eligible accounts that meet the criteria so anyone considering to participate can decide if they want to have their address associated with that small number of accounts.
administrator
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February 16, 2020, 09:41:01 PM
#3
Sounds interesting , completly ignored the existence of such feature.

Nobody's seen such a giveaway, so you wouldn't have known about it. I set it up previously for a giveaway that someone was going to do, but which never happened (yet?).
legendary
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Merit: 1048
February 16, 2020, 09:37:04 PM
#2
Sounds interesting , completly ignored the existence of such feature.

Not sure if I understood well but would be good for doing airdrops if I did understand well.
On the other hand seems a unnecesary hassle to see you going thru for airdrops since most are dishonest.
administrator
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February 16, 2020, 09:30:26 PM
#1
Previously, I set up a very simple system for letting someone do a giveaway without creating a link between your forum account and your mailing address, but this particular giveaway either hasn't happened yet or it completely fell through (not sure), so the system was never used. In case anyone else ever wants to do a private giveaway, you can do it like this:

 1. PM me with a list of all user IDs eligible to receive something in the giveaway, or an exact set of conditions which users must meet in order to be eligible (eg. "any user who joined before with merit above and activity above ").
 2. I will create a URL like https://bitcointalk.org/giveaway.php?id=123 for you (note: 404 currently). Everyone who wants to receive something in the giveaway has to go to that URL and get a giveaway code.
 3. They send the giveaway code to you along with their mailing address, and you'll verify the code at another bitcointalk.org page. You also have to keep a list of already-used codes so that people can't reuse them. You should publish some out-of-band way of accepting codes, such as an email address or a Google Forms form: if you only accept codes via forum PM, then people have to create throwaway accounts to PM you, which is annoying. You absolutely must not send someone an item without a code, even if they PM you from an account you can see is eligible for the giveaway, since otherwise someone could also send you their code anonymously and end up getting 2 items.

This breaks the link between recipients' forum accounts and their addresses: bitcointalk.org doesn't know the address sent to the giveaway operator, and the giveaway operator can't tell from the giveaway code which user they're talking to, only that they're eligible for the giveaway. In order to identify someone, data from both bitcointalk.org and the giveaway operator would have to be combined. Codes will be completely deleted from the bitcointalk.org server & all backups after about 6 months. Note however that the giveaway operator will have a list of addresses, and they will know that all of those addresses belong to people on the list of eligible people, so if there are only a few dozen recipients and a few hundred eligible users, it's very far from "anonymous". (There are some more fancy things that I could've done to make the whole thing a bit better. Blind signing could be used to make it secure even if bitcointalk.org was compromised, for example. But it's a pretty niche feature, so I just wanted to whip something together quickly.)

I'm not sure that anyone will ask to set up this sort of giveaway, but I wanted to mention the possibility. If more than a few people ask me to set these up, I'll probably make it so that anyone can set them up themselves.
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