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legendary
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September 29, 2017, 02:46:38 PM
#26


This case was discussed. There're hint to keep same balance on all exchanges. So, you may trade instantly without actual transfer. Transfer can be made later without time losing.

That's solid advice was was exactly the way I was thinking of doing it, if you plan to arbitrage.
newbie
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September 29, 2017, 02:39:15 PM
#25
Hello, guys!
I am in the crypto industry relatively recently, it is interesting to know / understand how trading of crypto-currencies / tokens on different exchanges operates.

Wich problems and disadvantages do you encounter when trading with crypto currency?
What currency pairs do you use (more convenient and practical in terms of output / input to exchange)?
How much can you earn on arbitrage?

I will be grateful for the answers.
actually doing arbitration also has advantages and disadvantages, the advantage is we can choose a market that has a higher price freely, and also the disadvantage is that if we do arbitration we need a lot of time to wait for confirmation of the transfer of tokens we have, it can make we lose money if the price wastes before our tokens are confirmed.

This case was discussed. There're hint to keep same balance on all exchanges. So, you may trade instantly without actual transfer. Transfer can be made later without time losing.
newbie
Activity: 25
Merit: 0
September 26, 2017, 02:55:30 AM
#24
This solution is good enough except on thing - you should have much money Smiley If you want to have good profit you should operate with big funds. But you can't have big funds on every exchange and on each crypto currency. And you can lose when you will withdraw all funds at some time. It's risky.

Well yes, you do need to have sufficient funds available, arbitrage is more of a professional strategy than one for beginners. That doesn't make it impossible to do. As for losing when you come to withdraw, that depends whether you got the strategy right in the first place. You need to factor in the trading fees and transactions fees before deciding that there is enough of a price difference to make it worthwhile. If you do all correctly it is one of the least risky trading strategies there is as you are short and long the position simultaneously and therefore perfectly hedged. This means that movements in the overall market will not affect you. As the price comes back together, your profit in one account will outweigh the loss in the other every time. The only risk is in execution error.


Yes, it is really difficult to understand all info about trading wright now, but thank you for this advices. I appreciate it.
sr. member
Activity: 616
Merit: 250
September 26, 2017, 02:04:19 AM
#23
Hello, guys!
I am in the crypto industry relatively recently, it is interesting to know / understand how trading of crypto-currencies / tokens on different exchanges operates.

Wich problems and disadvantages do you encounter when trading with crypto currency?
What currency pairs do you use (more convenient and practical in terms of output / input to exchange)?
How much can you earn on arbitrage?

I will be grateful for the answers.
actually doing arbitration also has advantages and disadvantages, the advantage is we can choose a market that has a higher price freely, and also the disadvantage is that if we do arbitration we need a lot of time to wait for confirmation of the transfer of tokens we have, it can make we lose money if the price wastes before our tokens are confirmed.
newbie
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September 25, 2017, 05:22:12 PM
#22
A very good discussion on this topic ensued from a very general question.  One responder got the most important part of the formula - i.e. that you need equal values on each exchange so that you can go long/short simultaneously.  However, you still need a way to "return" funds to the starting point in order to repeat - this is typically done at a loss, which obviously needs to be less than your gain.  Another important consideration is that you will need to hold a certain value of crypto currencies at all times - your investment in those holdings will be subject to market price fluctuations - this is not necessarily bad, but it is a risk you need to be aware of.  In general though I would not recommend doing this without a well thought-through strategy and the ability to take a risk on a portion of your investment.  Lastly, be aware that the exchanges are not as secure as banks.  BTCE is a recent example of this peril.
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September 25, 2017, 03:37:53 PM
#21
Hello, guys!
I am in the crypto industry relatively recently, it is interesting to know / understand how trading of crypto-currencies / tokens on different exchanges operates.

Wich problems and disadvantages do you encounter when trading with crypto currency?
What currency pairs do you use (more convenient and practical in terms of output / input to exchange)?
How much can you earn on arbitrage?

I will be grateful for the answers.
Arbitrage is just taking advantage of the difference in prices among different exchanges, that is all the issue is that arbitrage needs a accounts in all the important exchanges, you need the be verified to move a lot of money, you need a lot of money, and you need to act fast, arbitrage opportunities only last for a few minutes and as such you will need to be in front of the screen 24/7 to make any profit.

And you need to consider the percentage of commission that the exchange takes for its services. I tried to do this with one coin, but I did not succeed. I lost money
Yes before doing arbitrage you must check all the requirements first of the exchanger so that you know what will happen if you send some coin to the exchanger. Arbitrage is a risky but profitable method in trading in this way we need to be fast or else you will missed the profit or you will be loss.
full member
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September 25, 2017, 03:11:27 PM
#20
Hello, guys!
I am in the crypto industry relatively recently, it is interesting to know / understand how trading of crypto-currencies / tokens on different exchanges operates.

Wich problems and disadvantages do you encounter when trading with crypto currency?
What currency pairs do you use (more convenient and practical in terms of output / input to exchange)?
How much can you earn on arbitrage?

I will be grateful for the answers.
Arbitrage is just taking advantage of the difference in prices among different exchanges, that is all the issue is that arbitrage needs a accounts in all the important exchanges, you need the be verified to move a lot of money, you need a lot of money, and you need to act fast, arbitrage opportunities only last for a few minutes and as such you will need to be in front of the screen 24/7 to make any profit.

And you need to consider the percentage of commission that the exchange takes for its services. I tried to do this with one coin, but I did not succeed. I lost money
sr. member
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Merit: 257
September 25, 2017, 02:36:34 PM
#19
Hello, guys!
I am in the crypto industry relatively recently, it is interesting to know / understand how trading of crypto-currencies / tokens on different exchanges operates.

Wich problems and disadvantages do you encounter when trading with crypto currency?
What currency pairs do you use (more convenient and practical in terms of output / input to exchange)?
How much can you earn on arbitrage?

I will be grateful for the answers.
Arbitrage is just taking advantage of the difference in prices among different exchanges, that is all the issue is that arbitrage needs a accounts in all the important exchanges, you need the be verified to move a lot of money, you need a lot of money, and you need to act fast, arbitrage opportunities only last for a few minutes and as such you will need to be in front of the screen 24/7 to make any profit.
sr. member
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September 25, 2017, 09:50:44 AM
#18
First, what is your coin you want to play arbitrage? For example you want to play ETH . Go to coin market cap. Go to "MARKET" section. Look for the exchange site that gives the lowest value of ETH. Register to that exchange site, and buy an ETH.

So you purchased a low priced ETH. Now go to coinmarketcap again. Look for the exchange site that gives the highest ETH price. Send your ETH to that exchange site. Presto you just earn thru Arbitrage.

Hello, guys!
I am in the crypto industry relatively recently, it is interesting to know / understand how trading of crypto-currencies / tokens on different exchanges operates.

Wich problems and disadvantages do you encounter when trading with crypto currency?
What currency pairs do you use (more convenient and practical in terms of output / input to exchange)?
How much can you earn on arbitrage?

I will be grateful for the answers.
full member
Activity: 420
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September 25, 2017, 08:25:20 AM
#17
I listened about the arbitraging in the stock market but found it is not realistic now a days because of speedness of market and on-line operation. If, anybody know about the arbitraging in the cryptocurrency then send the details here. Arbitraging means buying and selling the same assets simultaneously.  Also, i want to know that should we buy the cryptocoin from one country and sell it in another country instantly. If it happen here also we can earn a good and decent amount of profit.
hero member
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September 25, 2017, 07:49:33 AM
#16
The real difficulty with trying to do abitrage in the crypto space is that the markets are open 24/7 but you can only move fiat to an exchange 5 days a week in banking hours.

So you have to pre-plan by having your fiat there already, but that is risky given how often the exchanges are hacked.

The largest difficult with arbitrage is that the markets can change in the time it takes you to transfer from one exchange to another. Therefore the best way is to ensure that you are already holding the currency you want to profit from arbitrage with. For example, hold both btc and ether on two accounts so you can instantly buy on one and instantly sell on the other.

You should try reading the thread before commenting. I already explained the only way to do arbitrage is to be holding enough of each currency in both accounts. Then you can transfer the funds at your leisure after the trade is closed. Anyway if you're trading a fiat pair you can transfer USDT 24/7.

full member
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September 25, 2017, 07:42:57 AM
#15
The largest difficult with arbitrage is that the markets can change in the time it takes you to transfer from one exchange to another. Therefore the best way is to ensure that you are already holding the currency you want to profit from arbitrage with. For example, hold both btc and ether on two accounts so you can instantly buy on one and instantly sell on the other.
legendary
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September 25, 2017, 07:28:31 AM
#14
The real difficulty with trying to do abitrage in the crypto space is that the markets are open 24/7 but you can only move fiat to an exchange 5 days a week in banking hours.

So you have to pre-plan by having your fiat there already, but that is risky given how often the exchanges are hacked.
hero member
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September 25, 2017, 07:08:42 AM
#13
This solution is good enough except on thing - you should have much money Smiley If you want to have good profit you should operate with big funds. But you can't have big funds on every exchange and on each crypto currency. And you can lose when you will withdraw all funds at some time. It's risky.

Well yes, you do need to have sufficient funds available, arbitrage is more of a professional strategy than one for beginners. That doesn't make it impossible to do. As for losing when you come to withdraw, that depends whether you got the strategy right in the first place. You need to factor in the trading fees and transactions fees before deciding that there is enough of a price difference to make it worthwhile. If you do all correctly it is one of the least risky trading strategies there is as you are short and long the position simultaneously and therefore perfectly hedged. This means that movements in the overall market will not affect you. As the price comes back together, your profit in one account will outweigh the loss in the other every time. The only risk is in execution error.
newbie
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Merit: 0
September 25, 2017, 04:58:54 AM
#12
Hello, guys!
I am in the crypto industry relatively recently, it is interesting to know / understand how trading of crypto-currencies / tokens on different exchanges operates.

Wich problems and disadvantages do you encounter when trading with crypto currency?
What currency pairs do you use (more convenient and practical in terms of output / input to exchange)?
How much can you earn on arbitrage?

I will be grateful for the answers.

To do arbitrage successfully you cannot wait for transactions to get from one exchange to the other. Arbitrage opportunities are only fleeting and you have to act immediately. To do this you need to have equal amounts of each currency on each exchange so you can go long on one and short on the other. Then you can move the funds after you flatten the trade.


This solution is good enough except on thing - you should have much money Smiley If you want to have good profit you should operate with big funds. But you can't have big funds on every exchange and on each crypto currency. And you can lose when you will withdraw all funds at some time. It's risky.
newbie
Activity: 25
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September 25, 2017, 04:37:41 AM
#11
The disadvantage of doing arbitrage is you need to wait some minutes to transfer your coins and more possibly when it comes the price on that exchange also dumps already.
How can you earn and how much you can earn is depending on the coins and capital that you have.

if you are "relatively new" to this market then it is best to stick to normal ways of trading instead of trying other weird methods and complicated ones such as arbitrage. because for example one of the things you will need in arbitrage (in my opinion) is a fast bot with a good internet connection so that you can act fast on opportunities before someone else does in your stead.

the usual way of trading, buy low and sell high, is much easier and it is even more profitable when you learn it. there is no reason for using arbitrage with all its risks to earn a small amount of profit.

To do arbitrage successfully you cannot wait for transactions to get from one exchange to the other. Arbitrage opportunities are only fleeting and you have to act immediately. To do this you need to have equal amounts of each currency on each exchange so you can go long on one and short on the other. Then you can move the funds after you flatten the trade.


Thank you, guys.
You helped me to understand this questions.
It is really need to think and weigh the advantages and disadvantages.
newbie
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September 25, 2017, 04:31:23 AM
#10
actually it is very easy to do the trade for cyptocurrency,
all that you need to do is buy and sell,before doing any trade you need to find your output and input.
you should find the place for you to deposit your cash/fiat/money and then convert it to cryptocurrency.
after that find the place for you to encash your cryptocurrency.
usually,the place for you to deposit your money is the place for you to encash your cryptocurrency.

the advantage doing a trade in cryptocurrency on exchanger is some of them does not require our document to do the trade,
and it's very easy to send your money/cryptos,and you can keep yourself in secret.

the disadvantage doing a trade in cryptocurrency on exchanger is a lot of phising attempt will happen when you try to do it,
and the most important thing is it's irreversible.
whenever you or not you send your cryptos to other wallet,you will never can reverse it back or forever move to that wallet.

arbitrage is not easy as you think,
you need a lot of money at least to do it,and momentum.
a lot of people doing an arbitrage but most of them did not get profit from it but instead loss.
because it's require a confirmation for every transaction and some of them will be delivered after a hour or more than that.
in cryptocurrency in the next 5 minutes the price can change higher or lower.
Thank you very much for your the detailed answer!
hero member
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September 25, 2017, 01:46:06 AM
#9
Hello, guys!
I am in the crypto industry relatively recently, it is interesting to know / understand how trading of crypto-currencies / tokens on different exchanges operates.

Wich problems and disadvantages do you encounter when trading with crypto currency?
What currency pairs do you use (more convenient and practical in terms of output / input to exchange)?
How much can you earn on arbitrage?

I will be grateful for the answers.

To do arbitrage successfully you cannot wait for transactions to get from one exchange to the other. Arbitrage opportunities are only fleeting and you have to act immediately. To do this you need to have equal amounts of each currency on each exchange so you can go long on one and short on the other. Then you can move the funds after you flatten the trade.
sr. member
Activity: 1274
Merit: 263
September 25, 2017, 01:40:37 AM
#8
actually it is very easy to do the trade for cyptocurrency,
all that you need to do is buy and sell,before doing any trade you need to find your output and input.
you should find the place for you to deposit your cash/fiat/money and then convert it to cryptocurrency.
after that find the place for you to encash your cryptocurrency.
usually,the place for you to deposit your money is the place for you to encash your cryptocurrency.

the advantage doing a trade in cryptocurrency on exchanger is some of them does not require our document to do the trade,
and it's very easy to send your money/cryptos,and you can keep yourself in secret.

the disadvantage doing a trade in cryptocurrency on exchanger is a lot of phising attempt will happen when you try to do it,
and the most important thing is it's irreversible.
whenever you or not you send your cryptos to other wallet,you will never can reverse it back or forever move to that wallet.

arbitrage is not easy as you think,
you need a lot of money at least to do it,and momentum.
a lot of people doing an arbitrage but most of them did not get profit from it but instead loss.
because it's require a confirmation for every transaction and some of them will be delivered after a hour or more than that.
in cryptocurrency in the next 5 minutes the price can change higher or lower.
jr. member
Activity: 34
Merit: 2
September 25, 2017, 01:19:36 AM
#7
You should really have a lot of money to make arbitrage

Not really, you need to have a lot of money to earn a lot of money from arbitrage, I would suggest to do with bitcoin, as simply by checking the current wall price and doing speculation, selling high, buying low.
But it is difficult to transfer money from one exchange to another. You need money for each exchange to trade
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