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You nay ride the wave. If you are trading, then for sure you will understand what I'm saying. FOMOs and FUDs are innevitable simply because of the large population. We don't think as one and move as one, the difference itself is the main reason. What I mean with riding the wave is making a predicrion out of those negative belief. If you're a typical investor and an FUD happen, you wouldn't want to invest at that very moment. Wait to see if there will be an impact or whether the market prices go up or down.

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There are a lot of people who change their minds. It's probably not the right time for your opponent to do so. A person who is always ready to say that he is right without listening to the arguments of others really looks like a fool; this was also said by Churchill. Therefore, do not argue with him; let him have his own opinion; this is his right. I do not think that Bitcoin will lose much interest from those who are not interested in it; rather, the opposite is true. Therefore, move your line; time always puts everything in its place.

I agree, besides, not all people are dumb to not verify information on the internet. People now a day are getting smart and keen on verifying information comparing it to other sources. So let the person spread FUD, people who are smart enough will always verify the correctness of the post. When they find out that the post is maliciously diverting people not to believe or invest in Bitcoin, they will avoid that person like a plague. So @OP just chill and relax, there is no need to have a debate to a person that lacks basic knowledge about BTC.

Well to most of the things, innocent ones are more prone with such ideas. But we cannot blame people who panic during these times. First of all it is their money which is at risk. Next,he just lacks knowledge therefore he should approach to other people in that field and ask for consultation such as with how OP did.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on June 18, 2023, 01:34:51 AM

There are a lot of people who change their minds. It's probably not the right time for your opponent to do so. A person who is always ready to say that he is right without listening to the arguments of others really looks like a fool; this was also said by Churchill. Therefore, do not argue with him; let him have his own opinion; this is his right. I do not think that Bitcoin will lose much interest from those who are not interested in it; rather, the opposite is true. Therefore, move your line; time always puts everything in its place.

I agree, besides, not all people are dumb to not verify information on the internet. People now a day are getting smart and keen on verifying information comparing it to other sources. So let the person spread FUD, people who are smart enough will always verify the correctness of the post. When they find out that the post is maliciously diverting people not to believe or invest in Bitcoin, they will avoid that person like a plague. So @OP just chill and relax, there is no need to have a debate to a person that lacks basic knowledge about BTC.

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It sounds like he doesn't know anything about Bitcoin, he only makes ethical comments about Bitcoin. How do you argue with someone who has no idea about a particular subject. If you argue with him he will take your argument aside because you are arguing with him after knowing certain things but your opposite is arguing with you without knowing anything I think this argument is nothing but a waste of your time. Argue with such a person who knows more information than you. Despite losing that argument, I think there are lessons to be learned. Hope you forget about it

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There are a lot of people who change their minds. It's probably not the right time for your opponent to do so. A person who is always ready to say that he is right without listening to the arguments of others really looks like a fool; this was also said by Churchill. Therefore, do not argue with him; let him have his own opinion; this is his right. I do not think that Bitcoin will lose much interest from those who are not interested in it; rather, the opposite is true. Therefore, move your line; time always puts everything in its place.

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Best thing you could do is ignore. If everybody would ignore his comments he'd just stop posting them. Reposting FUD articles and news is just feeding the trolls and amplifying the panic. Don't reply or repost and they will go away.

Sometimes you can't ignore these things because some people are really obvious that what they are doing is extremely FUD, some Bitcoiners will fight for it and they want to help Bitcoin to gain a good reputation with people.
But ignoring is also a good here but not all people will ignore some will believe on it, so for me, it is also better to stay calm, do your own research to verify if these are true.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on June 17, 2023, 06:47:57 AM

I'm an active participant in quora. Mostly I'm engaged in cryptocurrency discussion in Bengali. My purpose is simply to fight against FUD, misinformation. I have been doing this actively for long time now. I have engaged in debates in quora.

For the last few years, I'm trying to have a debate about Bitcoin with Mohammad Ghoni who was a Professor in a private university of Bangladesh. He claims himself as a economic analyst.

However, his negativity against Bitcoin is totally stupid. In fact, it seems he is biased when talking about Bitcoin or other cryptocurrency. He talks nonsense as if he doesn't know anything about Bitcoin. He is spreading wrong information about Bitcoin in quora. It's simple, when you don't know anything perfectly and you want to talk about that, you will only generate some stupid text.

I tried to engage with him in his responses. I'm ready to have a debate with him. The problem is he doesn't reply when someone wants to talk against his stupid opinion. He simply put answer on quora and then leave. I have replied in many of his answer in quora but never got a reply.
Now, I'm getting more concerned because he is spreading negativity in most of the questions. What can I do? Is there anything legal step someone can take, any foundation working on such issue? Or how can I invite him for a debate? I can simply put him on ignore but I'm also concerned about people getting wrong message. That's why I'm thinking something different.

Best thing you could do is ignore. If everybody would ignore his comments he'd just stop posting them. Reposting FUD articles and news is just feeding the trolls and amplifying the panic. Don't reply or repost and they will go away.

Totally agree, the OP's constant reply to those comments only makes them stand out even more and will help the creators of Fuds achieve their goals. I also think like you, when we come across comments or people spreading misinformation, it's best to ignore them. Because the more we care and respond, the more we inadvertently help them make their comments stand out and hit the front page. Conversely, when no one cares about them, they automatically disappear.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on June 17, 2023, 06:47:57 AM

My purpose is simply to fight against FUD, misinformation. I have been doing this actively for long time now. I have engaged in debates in quora.

you just waste time.

you don't get paid there, Why?

we must live with money-oriented, dude.

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To me, it's enough that you disprove his claims. As a matter of fact, it is his loss if after responding to him and refuting his statements he doesn't care to respond anymore. If you give him a solid rebuttal, then who cares if he won't reply? Many might even think he's already lost the argument.

At the end of the day, the facts remain. While it is hard to pit your words against the words of a university professor, the facts won't change at all. Sooner or later, the truth will prevail. Those who make an effort to verify both of your claims will confirm that you are right.

However, if the discussion is subjective, I'm afraid you'll just have to put up a more convincing opinion. I wonder what specifically your topics are.

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Actually what I think is correct to me he wants to argue with you of course bitcoin is pure here @Op you can argue with him no doubt. Because you know about Bitcoin so trust yourself and keep fighting. The problem is if Bitcoin was legal in our country then legal action could have been taken against the professor. But in this one place we are in question with the law because of which I cannot give any legal advice. Domestically he should be reasonably advised so that no positive information about Bitcoin reaches the public. So stick with the way you argue, I can't give any advice on the law.

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FUD often rolls out. Whenever such thing happens all that can be done is to have patience. Not everyone have got this ability. Till date bitcoin have died endless times, so it is the difference of thoughts between the users. Same as this we can see people having positive as well as negative thoughts over bitcoin. It is all about the mind to take the good and leave the rest.

Now people have got better understanding than the past. Earlier it used to be very simple and whale have fun creating FUD. Media too enjoy it as they don't have much of information relative to bitcoin. Now things have changed and people follow the real market than getting into the traps.

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Quote from: serveria.com on June 17, 2023, 06:05:57 PM

Quote from: Little Mouse on June 17, 2023, 06:47:57 AM

I'm an active participant in quora. Mostly I'm engaged in cryptocurrency discussion in Bengali. My purpose is simply to fight against FUD, misinformation. I have been doing this actively for long time now. I have engaged in debates in quora.

For the last few years, I'm trying to have a debate about Bitcoin with Mohammad Ghoni who was a Professor in a private university of Bangladesh. He claims himself as a economic analyst.

However, his negativity against Bitcoin is totally stupid. In fact, it seems he is biased when talking about Bitcoin or other cryptocurrency. He talks nonsense as if he doesn't know anything about Bitcoin. He is spreading wrong information about Bitcoin in quora. It's simple, when you don't know anything perfectly and you want to talk about that, you will only generate some stupid text.

I tried to engage with him in his responses. I'm ready to have a debate with him. The problem is he doesn't reply when someone wants to talk against his stupid opinion. He simply put answer on quora and then leave. I have replied in many of his answer in quora but never got a reply.
Now, I'm getting more concerned because he is spreading negativity in most of the questions. What can I do? Is there anything legal step someone can take, any foundation working on such issue? Or how can I invite him for a debate? I can simply put him on ignore but I'm also concerned about people getting wrong message. That's why I'm thinking something different.

Best thing you could do is ignore. If everybody would ignore his comments he'd just stop posting them. Reposting FUD articles and news is just feeding the trolls and amplifying the panic. Don't reply or repost and they will go away.

But there are really moments on which you cant really just resist on not to say about the truth or would really be making out some debate just because the things that they've been saying is actually wrong and not true on which for us who do have the knowledge and mainly been supporting and recognizing it would really be having that normal reaction basing up on what you have heard or read up but i do agree into this kind of suggestion on which simply ignoring out these things.

You do know that it isnt true and the best way to counter or make out some steps at least is to report any of those false things been scattered out. It cant really be just avoided that there would really be
haters and criticisms towards Bitcoin or crypto as a whole. This is something that cant really be removed out and its just sad that to those newbies or zero knowledge people would easily believe out
but well self realizations would be made later on.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on June 17, 2023, 06:47:57 AM

I'm an active participant in quora. Mostly I'm engaged in cryptocurrency discussion in Bengali. My purpose is simply to fight against FUD, misinformation. I have been doing this actively for long time now. I have engaged in debates in quora.

For the last few years, I'm trying to have a debate about Bitcoin with Mohammad Ghoni who was a Professor in a private university of Bangladesh. He claims himself as a economic analyst.

However, his negativity against Bitcoin is totally stupid. In fact, it seems he is biased when talking about Bitcoin or other cryptocurrency. He talks nonsense as if he doesn't know anything about Bitcoin. He is spreading wrong information about Bitcoin in quora. It's simple, when you don't know anything perfectly and you want to talk about that, you will only generate some stupid text.

I tried to engage with him in his responses. I'm ready to have a debate with him. The problem is he doesn't reply when someone wants to talk against his stupid opinion. He simply put answer on quora and then leave. I have replied in many of his answer in quora but never got a reply.
Now, I'm getting more concerned because he is spreading negativity in most of the questions. What can I do? Is there anything legal step someone can take, any foundation working on such issue? Or how can I invite him for a debate? I can simply put him on ignore but I'm also concerned about people getting wrong message. That's why I'm thinking something different.

There are surely a lot of people who hates Bitcoin and that could really make sense, a lot of rich people hate cryptocurrency just because of its risk, and compared to other investment its probably the worst. Plus we don't really have assurance on this kind of investment cryptocurrency is still a new thing even at this point there are still a lot of people who don't know Bitcoin or cryptocurrency. Compared to the stock market which is a stock of a company it actually just a share but it is a company on Bitcoin your just buying some sort of digital currency.

So investing in cryptocurrency will always have FUD bitcoin it doesnt have any support even from the government. The best thing to do is just ignore him I mean you could teach Bitcoin to your friends, family, or other people, just let him do his thing and you do your thing as well. The investors will be the ones to decide if he/she is going to invest in it, He cant really stop bitcoin from adaptation for sure in the coming years Bitcoin and cryptocurrency will be a lot more popular.

You can't argue with everyone on the internet because they are saying something wrong about BTC and the market. Those who spread Fud do have agenda of their own, if they are doing it then it could be that they want investors to sell for them to buy more or they simply hate the other project. Both happen all the time but the fud these days are often involved by certain well-known names in finance and some are government officials.

Its a never-ending cycle of fud but the ones that always emerge every time halving is nearer is about Satoshi conspiracy theories.

I agree with that, there is always someone that is going to say that something is wrong about Bitcoin or just a complete hater of Bitcoin, There are surely people who spread FUD probably for manipulation of the market as well, its possible that they want to get an opportunity to enter the market for a much lower price so they create FUD articles news of different websites.

Even though there is a lot of FUD out there the market was still able to reach around 70k$ last bull run so most of the FUD doesnt really matter and is probably already a normal thing that happened a lot, what's important is we don't get manipulated since it still depends on us if we are going to sell because of certain news, I mean I still hold my Bitcoin and I just ignore most of the news, post, articles what so ever, because if you let your emotion and get fear because of the market drop that is when you lose money.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on June 17, 2023, 06:47:57 AM

I'm an active participant in quora. Mostly I'm engaged in cryptocurrency discussion in Bengali. My purpose is simply to fight against FUD, misinformation. I have been doing this actively for long time now. I have engaged in debates in quora.

For the last few years, I'm trying to have a debate about Bitcoin with Mohammad Ghoni who was a Professor in a private university of Bangladesh. He claims himself as a economic analyst.

However, his negativity against Bitcoin is totally stupid. In fact, it seems he is biased when talking about Bitcoin or other cryptocurrency. He talks nonsense as if he doesn't know anything about Bitcoin. He is spreading wrong information about Bitcoin in quora. It's simple, when you don't know anything perfectly and you want to talk about that, you will only generate some stupid text.

I tried to engage with him in his responses. I'm ready to have a debate with him. The problem is he doesn't reply when someone wants to talk against his stupid opinion. He simply put answer on quora and then leave. I have replied in many of his answer in quora but never got a reply.
Now, I'm getting more concerned because he is spreading negativity in most of the questions. What can I do? Is there anything legal step someone can take, any foundation working on such issue? Or how can I invite him for a debate? I can simply put him on ignore but I'm also concerned about people getting wrong message. That's why I'm thinking something different.

Best thing you could do is ignore. If everybody would ignore his comments he'd just stop posting them. Reposting FUD articles and news is just feeding the trolls and amplifying the panic. Don't reply or repost and they will go away.

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on June 17, 2023, 05:56:11 PM

In this scenario, it's best to address their arguments directly within the thread. Even if you were to engage in private conversation, it's unlikely that they would be swayed. It's more effective to present your counterpoints with accurate information in the public forum. By doing so, the general audience will be able to witness their misguided views regarding Bitcoin and hopefully recognize the fallacies. It's important to note that there are numerous individuals who actively propagate negativity and misinformation about Bitcoin. Engaging in the thread is an effective strategy to counter their claims and provide accurate information, thus debunking their falsehoods.

However, the OP said that the person is not replying on his arguments.
In this case, what he can do, is just continue what he is doing, educate the people by giving the facts about this market and bitcoin itself.
I don't think any legal step would do good here, because as time goes by, these people will also realize which is fud or not.
Because once they try to get involve in this market, they will learn the facts. But for those who are not, they will remain in the dark.
And with today's technology, everyone can basically search something over the internet, so it is not too hard to educate yourself for anything.
The OP should not be too worried about other people believing the FUD, because they will also come to their senses on their own time.

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In this scenario, it's best to address their arguments directly within the thread. Even if you were to engage in private conversation, it's unlikely that they would be swayed. It's more effective to present your counterpoints with accurate information in the public forum. By doing so, the general audience will be able to witness their misguided views regarding Bitcoin and hopefully recognize the fallacies. It's important to note that there are numerous individuals who actively propagate negativity and misinformation about Bitcoin. Engaging in the thread is an effective strategy to counter their claims and provide accurate information, thus debunking their falsehoods.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on June 17, 2023, 06:47:57 AM

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He will pull you down to his domain and beat you to it. You will only get frustrated, see how he leave a comment and ignore your answer. I know you are concern about people being mislead but you already put your answer and rebuttal to those misleading answers. Besides people have their own minds and decision so let them weight the information. If these people really wanted the correct information, they will do their own research and by the time they had proven that you are correct, they will ignore the guy who spread misinformation.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on June 17, 2023, 04:28:54 PM

My advice on how to avoid FUD is to verify information from credible sources before accepting or sharing it. Differentiate between legitimate concerns and baseless FUD by analyzing arguments critically and there should be verifiable evidence.

Quote from: Tony116 on June 17, 2023, 04:43:50 PM

To avoid FUD, it is essential to verify information from credible sources. Yes, with critical analysis of arguments, seeking verifiable evidence, and consulting reputable sources are all valuable practices to determine the legitimacy of the information.

At the end of the day, everyone is free to form their own opinions,

Yeah, very correct. That was why I said if the professor gives his misconceptive ideas to about 100 people, not everyone will just rely on the information they get from someone, unless they are too lazy to do the research themselves.

Let's take this scenario: For example, I am a crypto newbie and I met the professor whom little mouse is talking about, and after listening to his bad ideas about Bitcoin, I decided to do some research myself and decided to ask the search engine this question.

"Is it safe to invest in Bitcoin?" See the result I got below.

I dug a bit deep into the first results I got from my search, and it was really narrative to convince someone to make their final decision either to buy Bitcoin or not. So, I can just say that if people don't only rely on spoon-fed information, they will not be misled. But what happens to some people is that they allow someone to mislead them because of the person's position in society or the level of that person's academic degree(it's wrong to do so).

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Quote from: Little Mouse on June 17, 2023, 06:47:57 AM

I tried to engage with him in his responses. I'm ready to have a debate with him. The problem is he doesn't reply when someone wants to talk against his stupid opinion. He simply put answer on quora and then leave. I have replied in many of his answer in quora but never got a reply.
Now, I'm getting more concerned because he is spreading negativity in most of the questions. What can I do? Is there anything legal step someone can take, any foundation working on such issue? Or how can I invite him for a debate?

You live in Bangladesh, right?
Considering the status of crypto is illegal there, I think you have done your best to fight the FUDs. I doubt you can do something more serious to him since the government probably supports him. The government already stated that utilizing crypto is a crime and can be jailed. So, it is simply a big obstacle to do anything against crypto FUDs in your country.

If this case is happening in my country, we can sue people like Mohammad Ghoni. We can accuse he is spreading fake or misleading information, it can be subject to legal penalties. But it is possible in my country because crypto investment is legal here. Everything can be easier if the government supports crypto, it is difficult when the government bans it.

Reference:
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_cryptocurrency_by_country_or_territory
2. https://freemanlaw.com/cryptocurrency/bangladesh-and-cryptocurrency/

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on June 17, 2023, 04:28:54 PM

Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on June 17, 2023, 04:15:01 PM

Why not say a big "fuck you" to him? It's just like Warren Buffett, who says that "Bitcoin is stupid because it can go to zero value." If I were you, I wouldn't bother myself to prove any point to someone who thinks that my points are worthless just because they have some skepticism about Bitcoin. I know your worry is that people listening to him will be misleading, yea, but at least in the mist of 100 people, not really every one of them would be able to follow his misleading ideas about Bitcoin. People still have a choice; it's not as if he's trying to force them to believe in whatever he says. I would suggest it's better you just ignore him.

^Definitely right and I agree, I will not force anyone who did not believe in BTC but instead, I let them witness the benefits that I got by using this technology. My advice on how to avoid FUD is to verify information from credible sources before accepting or sharing it. Differentiate between legitimate concerns and baseless FUD by analyzing arguments critically and there should be verifiable evidence.
Because for me, you cannot win this way, the professor will also defend his belief towards BTC and most of they give advice is to ignore the professor because even Satoshi did not force us to believe in him.

By focusing on your own experiences to demonstrate the benefits of Bitcoin, you're taking a sensible approach. It is possible to influence others' perceptions by demonstrating practical applications and positive outcomes. To avoid FUD, it is essential to verify information from credible sources. Yes, with critical analysis of arguments, seeking verifiable evidence, and consulting reputable sources are all valuable practices to determine the legitimacy of the information.

At the end of the day, everyone is free to form their own opinions, and yes, Satoshi Nakamoto didn't intend to force anyone to believe in Bitcoin. By presenting the technology and its potential benefits, it enables a wider audience to make informed decisions.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on June 17, 2023, 04:15:01 PM

Why not say a big "fuck you" to him? It's just like Warren Buffett, who says that "Bitcoin is stupid because it can go to zero value." If I were you, I wouldn't bother myself to prove any point to someone who thinks that my points are worthless just because they have some skepticism about Bitcoin. I know your worry is that people listening to him will be misleading, yea, but at least in the mist of 100 people, not really every one of them would be able to follow his misleading ideas about Bitcoin. People still have a choice; it's not as if he's trying to force them to believe in whatever he says. I would suggest it's better you just ignore him.

^Definitely right and I agree, I will not force anyone who did not believe in BTC but instead, I let them witness the benefits that I got by using this technology. My advice on how to avoid FUD is to verify information from credible sources before accepting or sharing it. Differentiate between legitimate concerns and baseless FUD by analyzing arguments critically and there should be verifiable evidence.
Because for me, you cannot win this way, the professor will also defend his belief towards BTC and most of they give advice is to ignore the professor because even Satoshi did not force us to believe in him.

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