About the crypto game : crash. ( example )
1:We all know it’s house edge :1%
2:This game you access any gambling website , its always auto run there .
How to change it ? Or could we change it different?
1: we make the house edge 0% or just 0.1%?
Could we change the house edge or not? In my experience i think its gone be ok!
2:How we make money for admins?
We could control the game time！
you as the admin， you could choose to open a new game anytime，and control the game time like 30mins or 1hour， why do that？ you could take the winner profits 1～5% as fee
its like， i join your club，play the crash，the game is 0 edge to me but in 30mins，i don’t know i will win the game or not , if i win , maybe 100 usd, i will pay u 1~5 usd as fee , i think its ok , If i lose 100usd,i think the game is fair to me , i just lose to the 0 edge game, that ok right?
3: if as a player , you think its not fair about the hash , you could choose to different seeds game room
Topic: How to get Free games in china? - page 3. (Read 719 times)
Understanding what he said, that's what he wants. Like if he's a casino owner and registered locally, there are countries that are restricted in accessing on his casino.
But what he wants to do is allowing them to gain access and he's the one to provide them VPN. Well, businessmen like that way because it's more money coming in to them but there's a law that prohibits it.
I think a law prohibiting them to play in their casino is enough of a challenge and I won't like to exceed beyond that because I think providing free pass to other countries from accessing to your casino is hassle IMO. Not unless, of course, if their government allowed other countries but that's not going to happen in their current status.But what he wants to do is allowing them to gain access and he's the one to provide them VPN. Well, businessmen like that way because it's more money coming in to them but there's a law that prohibits it.
This is the problem when you are living in China because almost everything their was controlled by the government so having to have a free pass inside on their territory is not gonna happen.
Well, it's his problem and strategy if ever he's get into reality with that idea and will have his own casino soon. He's explained enough with what he likes and it's up to everyone what's going to be the take for it.
I think there are probably regulatory concerns with it.
I do understand what you're trying to get at - a sort of pure gameplay app/website where no money exchanges hands, and all that is done is the actual gameplay itself.
Still though, I'd imagine there are huge barriers to entry for the Chinese app industry and it's probably extremely unprofitable compared to running an actual casino for the people who have the capacity to do it.
I do understand what you're trying to get at - a sort of pure gameplay app/website where no money exchanges hands, and all that is done is the actual gameplay itself.
Still though, I'd imagine there are huge barriers to entry for the Chinese app industry and it's probably extremely unprofitable compared to running an actual casino for the people who have the capacity to do it.
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Why nobody creat a free casino website and let us creat club on it ?
I honestly do not properly understand what you mean by this, but I will try to give an answer from the level to which I understand, I understand that what you mean Is different from casino forum, what you mean is a casino that for example, acts like Ethereum which allows other devs to build their own projects in the form of erc20.
The truth is, I don't think any crypto casino platform currently have such ability, and I also don't think any crypto casino would like to venture into such, as the journey might be futile.
A few years ago, when i could play real money on Pokerstars in china , its so difficult to withdraw,
I need to sell my usd to other players, a smart guy invent an application named”poker master ”
People could creat free club and invite friends play poker(gamble) together
How do you bet? Is it same as Casino in here? Is there a midman or an escrow that holds your funds if you play with your friends on that app or club your into? I think it is too risky, even online Casino these days are regulated by the government. Is that somehow illegal? I never have experienced something like that online, but in real life it is possible as you can see the players who are with you on the table playing poker. Your ideas have so many flaws and it needs professionals on that field to build such app, and nobody would take that job unless you pay them.
Thank you to @Similificator for making this clearer. I guess you just have to connect with interested developers, OP, so that you could know how to pursue this idea. If this will be possible, and successfully executed, then this would be a big thing that would be loved by many gamblers who wants to a have a private game and those from countries that are prohibiting gambling activities.
all of these. Just a little idea, i know talk is cheap ,show me the code,but I’m not software engineer
will somebody knows how to get it success，or interest of these，maybe we could to join a telegram group to talk this!
Btw: I’m learning English hard everyday , if you can’t understand me, just point my fault , that will be very helpful to me ! Thank u everybody!
Thank you to @Similificator for making this clearer. I guess you just have to connect with interested developers, OP, so that you could know how to pursue this idea. If this will be possible, and successfully executed, then this would be a big thing that would be loved by many gamblers who wants to a have a private game and those from countries that are prohibiting gambling activities.
its like ，we can't play real money online poker in china， but we can play free chips poker and gamble with friends in our club by 1 chip :1 real money 。 to platform，they only make money from expend players chips
Yes, it seems clearer for me now. so you are saying you want someone to facilitate as an admin for a club that has real human members or friends where you can bet with using the chips which the admin is providing in a 1 is to 1 ratio like 1 chip is = to $1 right? And then the admin which provides these chips and the platform in which your club is in will make money by imposing tax of some sort for the services the admin and his platform provides? Is this what you mean?
If so, I think that this would be great as a new project. Like creating a platform that offers services like what you have mentioned and has options in being anonymous or creating a room that is private and only accessible for you and for the people you give invites to. While also utilizing a stable coin to use as chips or something like that. It can be a trustless system that wouldn't require an admin anymore and just the platform itself.
It would be pretty nice to see some developer insight about this.
finally，you understand what i really want to say!
It’s like we don’t gamble with casino , so they don’t need to cheat their users.instead of that
They would rather to provide more fair games to their agents (club admins)
its like ，we can't play real money online poker in china， but we can play free chips poker and gamble with friends in our club by 1 chip :1 real money 。 to platform，they only make money from expend players chips
Yes, it seems clearer for me now. so you are saying you want someone to facilitate as an admin for a club that has real human members or friends where you can bet with using the chips which the admin is providing in a 1 is to 1 ratio like 1 chip is = to $1 right? And then the admin which provides these chips and the platform in which your club is in will make money by imposing tax of some sort for the services the admin and his platform provides? Is this what you mean?
If so, I think that this would be great as a new project. Like creating a platform that offers services like what you have mentioned and has options in being anonymous or creating a room that is private and only accessible for you and for the people you give invites to. While also utilizing a stable coin to use as chips or something like that. It can be a trustless system that wouldn't require an admin anymore and just the platform itself.
It would be pretty nice to see some developer insight about this.
I am not sure what do you mean by club, I know that you are just using a translation tool but I think what you are trying to say is that there should be an admin where he handles the poker group or something like that and if the admin is scammer then the gambling site would pay it? wouldn't it much better if the trusted gambling site would hold the funds for the security of their players?
Thanks for you answer ,
First, I’m living in china , we can’t use crypto or play gambling games right? It’s illegal
But , as the crypto game ,like crash , its just a good game , fair and interesting .
How we can play it in illegal areas? Just provider it for free coins. Right?
If you want use it gambling , how?
You could join a club on this website , and gamble with the admin of this club.
You could use the special club coins. 1:1 , before you want play , you have to deposit to the admin first
Nobody knows , its your personal action。
But to the platform ,looks like just a free website provide free crypto games
You don't have to play gambling games because it's illegal. That's what needs to be understood because even if you use crypto to gamble, it's still illegal, right?First, I’m living in china , we can’t use crypto or play gambling games right? It’s illegal
But , as the crypto game ,like crash , its just a good game , fair and interesting .
How we can play it in illegal areas? Just provider it for free coins. Right?
If you want use it gambling , how?
You could join a club on this website , and gamble with the admin of this club.
You could use the special club coins. 1:1 , before you want play , you have to deposit to the admin first
Nobody knows , its your personal action。
But to the platform ,looks like just a free website provide free crypto games
But you can use a VPN to visit gambling sites. Gambling sites may provide free coins to their members, especially if they are new gambling sites. But gambling sites can provide free coins to their members because they want to earn from their business.
But I think there is one gambling site that I know has a special coin and that site is betfury.io. On that site, you have the opportunity to get free coins, namely BFG tokens which you can use to gamble.
I went back here for progress check, I see that this has been a challenging case to unlock, and recommend to, based on what the forum users have replied in this thread. I think it would be best to talk and consult to experienced developers, if you really want pursue this, OP. We all understand where you are coming from, but you also have to weigh in the possibility of every spectrum of this concept. Otherwise, the usage of VPN in accessing different websites would be your best option here, so far.
Let agents players Gamble with themself
Platform just provide technology support
No one said that a gambler or players will not gamble when they want to or not. You missed the point which is said that we can't just trust any casino that we see. Would you gamble if I give you a platform that only scam people of their money?. I'm sure there's only two possible answer which is you don't care either you get scammed or not as long as you will have fun or you don't want to gamble because you don't want to get scammed. Another possibility is you are one of the team of that platform to find people to scam their money. Platform just provide technology support
In my opinion, A poker site like that is risky. Indeed you can create free club but as you have said, the deposit and withdrawal must go through the admin. The chance of admin taking your funds is high especially those who gamble with lots of money or decent amount. If I were you, I wouldn't deposit there even if I did make a research about the admin and the site. It's better if you play poker on a casino that doesn't do these things which is very risky as I have said about it.
In my experience, we always as players to trust the casino
Why we trust a big casino website , because they have lots of players by a long time.
If everyone could to creat own casino club by free casino wabsite, i believe lots of them would rather to pay something to this website！
Let agents players Gamble with themself
Platform just provide technology support
In my opinion, A poker site like that is risky. Indeed you can create free club but as you have said, the deposit and withdrawal must go through the admin. The chance of admin taking your funds is high especially those who gamble with lots of money or decent amount. If I were you, I wouldn't deposit there even if I did make a research about the admin and the site. It's better if you play poker on a casino that doesn't do these things which is very risky as I have said about it.
In my experience, we always as players to trust the casino
Why we trust a big casino website , because they have lots of players by a long time.
If everyone could to creat own casino club by free casino wabsite, i believe lots of them would rather to pay something to this website！
Well the idea itself isn't really that bad if I were to give my own opinion about this. However, there will be trust issues with the admin that you have mentioned. But yes, this isn't a very heavy problem that cannot be solved. Just have to have a reputable enough existing gambling site to act as an admin so that trust issues can be minimized and gradually improve more in the positive side. This is something new and pretty interesting and may attract a lot of gamblers looking for new ways to have fun. I wonder if some gambling sites would really adopt such an idea.
its like ，we can't play real money online poker in china， but we can play free chips poker and gamble with friends in our club by 1 chip :1 real money 。 to platform，they only make money from expend players chips
I don't really understand how you want to combine a free chips game in "club" with a real money game.
Casinos are a business where you play for real money. If you want to play for free chips, you will surely find some demo games.
If you have any magical way to turn free chips into money, just describe it, because I don't think anyone here understands it.
Thanks for you answer ,
First, I’m living in china , we can’t use crypto or play gambling games right? It’s illegal
But , as the crypto game ,like crash , its just a good game , fair and interesting .
How we can play it in illegal areas? Just provider it for free coins. Right?
If you want use it gambling , how?
You could join a club on this website , and gamble with the admin of this club.
You could use the special club coins. 1:1 , before you want play , you have to deposit to the admin first
Nobody knows , its your personal action。
But to the platform ,looks like just a free website provide free crypto games
You're the owner and you're going to provide illegal access? Like those countries that you should prohibit will be provided with VPN so that they can still access your casino.
Well, I get it now and that's what you're trying to say. If a gambler really wants to gamble to your casino whether you provide them or vpn for free, they'll come to you.
Well, I get it now and that's what you're trying to say. If a gambler really wants to gamble to your casino whether you provide them or vpn for free, they'll come to you.
I have doubts if there is anything illegal in what OP wants to do. I think he just wants to play in casino but for free chips, not for money. However, when it comes to this, there are many casinos that offer a demo option, where you can play for free chips. If in the country where OP lives, even access to the demo version is illegal, then he can use VPN and the case is solved.
But what he wants to do is allowing them to gain access and he's the one to provide them VPN. Well, businessmen like that way because it's more money coming in to them but there's a law that prohibits it.
This is the problem when you are living in China because almost everything their was controlled by the government so having to have a free pass inside on their territory is not gonna happen.
You're the owner and you're going to provide illegal access? Like those countries that you should prohibit will be provided with VPN so that they can still access your casino.
Well, I get it now and that's what you're trying to say. If a gambler really wants to gamble to your casino whether you provide them or vpn for free, they'll come to you.
Well, I get it now and that's what you're trying to say. If a gambler really wants to gamble to your casino whether you provide them or vpn for free, they'll come to you.
I have doubts if there is anything illegal in what OP wants to do. I think he just wants to play in casino but for free chips, not for money. However, when it comes to this, there are many casinos that offer a demo option, where you can play for free chips. If in the country where OP lives, even access to the demo version is illegal, then he can use VPN and the case is solved.
But what he wants to do is allowing them to gain access and he's the one to provide them VPN. Well, businessmen like that way because it's more money coming in to them but there's a law that prohibits it.
Hello,everyone !
This is my first time to post on bitcointalk。
I come from china ,my English is not good ，most time，i need Google translate，thanks this invention。
I have read a lot of artcles here，i visited some online gaming websites, and test bcgame,stakes,free bitcoin etc, crash and mines are perfect games , i really love them!
Cryptocurrency let me enjoyed the funny on these gaming website.
A few years ago, when i could play real money on Pokerstars in china , its so difficult to withdraw,
I need to sell my usd to other players, a smart guy invent an application named”poker master ”
People could creat free club and invite friends play poker(gamble) together
I’m a stupid kid , so i have a question want to get somes good answers from smart guys ,
Why nobody creat a free casino website and let us creat club on it ?
Its different meaning with affiliate.
Website could charge some money from club admin even margin(limit bet figure)!
If this club admin is a scammer ,you could help their players recoup lost or not !
Club’s players deposit/withdraw money(cryptocurrency) to admin.
You can provide payment api to admins and make money.
Some big rewards games like lottery you can control it by own website not clubs
People could buy lottery by your token or other coins.
I’m not sure,it’s worth to test or not . Or even have someone are doing it
Let me know the result please
In the end , thanks everyone’s answers if you would give me some good ideas
This is my first time to post on bitcointalk。
I come from china ,my English is not good ，most time，i need Google translate，thanks this invention。
I have read a lot of artcles here，i visited some online gaming websites, and test bcgame,stakes,free bitcoin etc, crash and mines are perfect games , i really love them!
Cryptocurrency let me enjoyed the funny on these gaming website.
A few years ago, when i could play real money on Pokerstars in china , its so difficult to withdraw,
I need to sell my usd to other players, a smart guy invent an application named”poker master ”
People could creat free club and invite friends play poker(gamble) together
I’m a stupid kid , so i have a question want to get somes good answers from smart guys ,
Why nobody creat a free casino website and let us creat club on it ?
Its different meaning with affiliate.
Website could charge some money from club admin even margin(limit bet figure)!
If this club admin is a scammer ,you could help their players recoup lost or not !
Club’s players deposit/withdraw money(cryptocurrency) to admin.
You can provide payment api to admins and make money.
Some big rewards games like lottery you can control it by own website not clubs
People could buy lottery by your token or other coins.
I’m not sure,it’s worth to test or not . Or even have someone are doing it
Let me know the result please
In the end , thanks everyone’s answers if you would give me some good ideas
Hello chinese friend. Welcome to our forum! We hope you enjoy your time with us.
I have read your text and as far as I understand it, you could make a trustless version of what you describe. Or at least a community-vote based DAO (Decentralized Autonomous Organisation) with the use of smart contracts.
So the question of needing to trust the club admin with the money is unnecessary, I would think. Unfortunately I am no smart contract developer that understands what conditions would need to be met for such a DAO to even be possible.
I think you might find an answer to that if you ask in the project development subforum. Lots of experienced developers are in that subforum.
I am confused but at the same, I can understand what you're trying to say. AFAIK, there are casinos that have those technicalities that you've mentioned.
And making one isn't as easy as you suggest but the main thing that I've understood from what you're saying is all about business and profit. There are things needed to be cleared, casinos don't operate for free, and if you think that the main source of income could be from the clubs. It's just going to be another source but not the main.
And making one isn't as easy as you suggest but the main thing that I've understood from what you're saying is all about business and profit. There are things needed to be cleared, casinos don't operate for free, and if you think that the main source of income could be from the clubs. It's just going to be another source but not the main.
Yes,its not the main income, but if i have a online casino right now, i will provide the crypto games to illegal areas players for free ,if they want to win real money , could use vpn access main website.
Well, I get it now and that's what you're trying to say. If a gambler really wants to gamble to your casino whether you provide them or vpn for free, they'll come to you.
I have doubts if there is anything illegal in what OP wants to do. I think he just wants to play in casino but for free chips, not for money. However, when it comes to this, there are many casinos that offer a demo option, where you can play for free chips. If in the country where OP lives, even access to the demo version is illegal, then he can use VPN and the case is solved.
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