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Quote from: seagullx on May 01, 2022, 10:32:09 AM

Quote from: tabas on May 01, 2022, 09:21:49 AM

I am confused but at the same, I can understand what you're trying to say. AFAIK, there are casinos that have those technicalities that you've mentioned.
And making one isn't as easy as you suggest but the main thing that I've understood from what you're saying is all about business and profit. There are things needed to be cleared, casinos don't operate for free, and if you think that the main source of income could be from the clubs. It's just going to be another source but not the main.

Yes,its not the main income, but if i have a online casino right now, i will provide the crypto games to illegal areas players for free ,if they want to win real money , could use vpn access main website.

You're the owner and you're going to provide illegal access? Like those countries that you should prohibit will be provided with VPN so that they can still access your casino.
Well, I get it now and that's what you're trying to say. If a gambler really wants to gamble to your casino whether you provide them or vpn for free, they'll come to you.

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Basically you want to create an online free gambling club which would be done by mainly a casino but for real it would be the people who would be playing on it without the intervention? I don't know really or you want to use someone as an escrow ?

This is not entirely possible some of the things :
1. The games are developed, they are paid for and these things are generally required to get tested and also checked for fairness, so all the developers might have to develope these games and give rights to them as well making it expensive to let people use it for free.
2. There are social networks where people can use and assemble their friends and teams to play other than that the casinos also have chat rooms as well where u can chat and play or even go on the live platform as well.

Maybe I don't understand your question that well.

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Quote from: Maus0728 on April 30, 2022, 04:18:17 PM

There are already casinos that has that feature but aren't crypto platforms and just mostly supports their local fiat and payment methods. There is no blockchain casino as well that has the feature to create clubs (AFAIK) and is a customer-owned platform. As like the others say, that's a shady way to make a payment method. You cannot just send crypto on one person in his wallet then he just manually adds digits to your 'wallet'. Even that alone is a red flag. Payment methods and crypto games should be on blockchain and played within the blockchain as well to provide transparency and less scam.

I couldn’t agree more with you. While some are in sympathy with the sentiments of OP, as to why this concept was raised in the first place, I think that many would find this improbable due to security and credibility of transaction executions. On the other hand, maybe OP is speaking on behalf of his experiences in concerned with his homeland, just like what the others have mentioned. Perhaps, someone who has the same sentiments, or even experience with OP, could then try to put the concept in reality and see if this is really plausible to be successful.

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If you are looking for free spin in online casino the. You will found lots of casino in online if you do little search . But I think this is only waste of time . These casinos will make you the winner but at the last minute you will see that you have lost. And in some cases, if there is a withdrawal option or a reward, then it is a negligible amount

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Quote from: seagullx on May 02, 2022, 09:09:05 AM

Quote from: Similificator on May 02, 2022, 08:54:58 AM

Well the idea itself isn't really that bad if I were to give my own opinion about this. However, there will be trust issues with the admin that you have mentioned. But yes, this isn't a very heavy problem that cannot be solved. Just have to have a reputable enough existing gambling site to act as an admin so that trust issues can be minimized and gradually improve more in the positive side. This is something new and pretty interesting and may attract a lot of gamblers looking for new ways to have fun. I wonder if some gambling sites would really adopt such an idea.

its like ，we can't play real money online poker in china， but we can play free chips poker and gamble with friends in our club by 1 chip :1 real money 。 to platform，they only make money from expend players chips

I don't really understand how you want to combine a free chips game in "club" with a real money game.
Casinos are a business where you play for real money. If you want to play for free chips, you will surely find some demo games.
If you have any magical way to turn free chips into money, just describe it, because I don't think anyone here understands it.

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Quote from: Similificator on May 02, 2022, 08:54:58 AM

Well the idea itself isn't really that bad if I were to give my own opinion about this. However, there will be trust issues with the admin that you have mentioned. But yes, this isn't a very heavy problem that cannot be solved. Just have to have a reputable enough existing gambling site to act as an admin so that trust issues can be minimized and gradually improve more in the positive side. This is something new and pretty interesting and may attract a lot of gamblers looking for new ways to have fun. I wonder if some gambling sites would really adopt such an idea.

its like ，we can't play real money online poker in china， but we can play free chips poker and gamble with friends in our club by 1 chip :1 real money 。 to platform，they only make money from expend players chips

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Well the idea itself isn't really that bad if I were to give my own opinion about this. However, there will be trust issues with the admin that you have mentioned. But yes, this isn't a very heavy problem that cannot be solved. Just have to have a reputable enough existing gambling site to act as an admin so that trust issues can be minimized and gradually improve more in the positive side. This is something new and pretty interesting and may attract a lot of gamblers looking for new ways to have fun. I wonder if some gambling sites would really adopt such an idea.

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Quote from: seagullx on April 30, 2022, 02:36:02 PM

Hello,everyone !
This is my first time to post on bitcointalk。
I come from china ,my English is not good ，most time，i need Google translate，thanks this invention。
I have read a lot of artcles here，i visited some online gaming websites, and test bcgame,stakes,free bitcoin etc, crash and mines are perfect games , i really love them!
Cryptocurrency let me enjoyed the funny on these gaming website.

A few years ago, when i could play real money on Pokerstars in china , its so difficult to withdraw,
I need to sell my usd to other players, a smart guy invent an application named”poker master ”
People could creat free club and invite friends play poker(gamble) together

I’m a stupid kid , so i have a question want to get somes good answers from smart guys ,
Why nobody creat a free casino website and let us creat club on it ?
Its different meaning with affiliate.
Website could charge some money from club admin even margin(limit bet figure)!
If this club admin is a scammer ,you could help their players recoup lost or not !
Club’s players deposit/withdraw money(cryptocurrency) to admin.
You can provide payment api to admins and make money.
Some big rewards games like lottery you can control it by own website not clubs
People could buy lottery by your token or other coins.
I’m not sure,it’s worth to test or not . Or even have someone are doing it
Let me know the result please
In the end , thanks everyone’s answers if you would give me some good ideas

It seems like the Chinese government plays a big part in this. Businesses love stability and unfortunately in that country the laws can change like the direction of the wind. We saw a random crackdown in Macau recently and a few big casinos got targeted with the owners arrested. There is also a lot of people in the country and free games cost the casino big money, if people set up an operation to take the money and run - that casino is out of money really soon.

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Quote from: seagullx on May 01, 2022, 10:32:09 AM

Yes,its not the main income, but if i have a online casino right now, i will provide the crypto games to illegal areas players for free ,if they want to win real money , could use vpn access main website.

See I think that's the main problem. You want to set up basically an illegal type of casino esque, and users wouldn't be the one liable for being taken into court, it'd be the casino owner. I honestly just think users should just use VPN to play on whichever casino they already want, and that would directly solve the problem.

As for the concept of "clubs", well, I think those don't need a central owner, or a central organization that handles them, clubs are in some sense, a private gathering of individuals who want to hang out or talk to each other, there's no need for someone to handle or control them. Well if the casino itself integrates the idea of clubs in some sense, then there's nothing we can do about that, but if it were something like only made by users, then I don't think it could work. The group would be handling money afterall imo.

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Quote from: seagullx on May 01, 2022, 10:32:09 AM

Quote from: tabas on May 01, 2022, 09:21:49 AM

I am confused but at the same, I can understand what you're trying to say. AFAIK, there are casinos that have those technicalities that you've mentioned.
And making one isn't as easy as you suggest but the main thing that I've understood from what you're saying is all about business and profit. There are things needed to be cleared, casinos don't operate for free, and if you think that the main source of income could be from the clubs. It's just going to be another source but not the main.

Yes,its not the main income, but if i have a online casino right now, i will provide the crypto games to illegal areas players for free ,if they want to win real money , could use vpn access main website.

Your main consideration is where will you get the bankroll? In every casino, bankroll is one of the important things to consider because without it, I don't think there will be interested players. You can definitely put up an online casino, but the maintenance would be another thing. There are already casinos accepting the use of VPN. The usual hesitation of players is can you pay their winnings? Because if you have no solid financial backing, the lifespan of the casino would just be short.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on May 01, 2022, 10:38:48 AM

Quote from: seagullx on April 30, 2022, 02:36:02 PM

Why nobody creat a free casino website and let us creat club on it ?

Not sure here what you're looking for, but if you visit the Games and spins board it's here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=71.0, You will find hundreds of games or gambling sites that offer free games, up to thousands of dollars.

Club, what do you mean, we are here often involved in free gambling sites, without the club chairman and so on, we can still do free things about betting, everything is going well.

OP, bet on a free gambling site, it's not an antique bike that a club requires.

Yes,you are right!

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Quote from: seagullx on April 30, 2022, 02:36:02 PM

Why nobody creat a free casino website and let us creat club on it ?

Not sure here what you're looking for, but if you visit the Games and spins board it's here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=71.0, You will find hundreds of games or gambling sites that offer free games, up to thousands of dollars.

Club, what do you mean, we are here often involved in free gambling sites, without the club chairman and so on, we can still do free things about betting, everything is going well.

OP, bet on a free gambling site, it's not an antique bike that a club requires.

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Quote from: tabas on May 01, 2022, 09:21:49 AM

I am confused but at the same, I can understand what you're trying to say. AFAIK, there are casinos that have those technicalities that you've mentioned.
And making one isn't as easy as you suggest but the main thing that I've understood from what you're saying is all about business and profit. There are things needed to be cleared, casinos don't operate for free, and if you think that the main source of income could be from the clubs. It's just going to be another source but not the main.

Yes,its not the main income, but if i have a online casino right now, i will provide the crypto games to illegal areas players for free ,if they want to win real money , could use vpn access main website.

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You couldn't do all those things simply because crypto gambling is prohibited and restricted in China. There are also terms of service by gambling sites that you have to consider. There's no free casino website and putting up a site would cost you a lot but you still have to consider your location.

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I am confused but at the same, I can understand what you're trying to say. AFAIK, there are casinos that have those technicalities that you've mentioned.
And making one isn't as easy as you suggest but the main thing that I've understood from what you're saying is all about business and profit. There are things needed to be cleared, casinos don't operate for free, and if you think that the main source of income could be from the clubs. It's just going to be another source but not the main.

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Quote from: zidanw on May 01, 2022, 07:42:08 AM

I think there are quite a few bans on China regarding gambling. And since it also concerns crypto gambling, that can be even more sensitive. There has been a lot of commotion in China because of the bitcoin. Was illegal/banned for a while, but I think I read that it is legal now. Many Chinese do not dare to take the gamble (literally and figuratively) because otherwise repremands may follow. China and gambling in Bitcoin do not go well together due to the strict rules.

yes，you‘r right！It’s difficult to mix . China, gambling,crypto Cry

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It could work. However the problem might.. Does any casino owner will let you borrow some of their website's space to operate your own game? Maybe there could be someone, but I think you will need to pay them a lot for that.

Quote from: seagullx on April 30, 2022, 02:36:02 PM

Why nobody creat a free casino website and let us creat club on it ?

Free casino website? That doesn't exists. You have lots of investment for that. Domain, devs, supports, partnerships, etc.

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I think there are quite a few bans on China regarding gambling. And since it also concerns crypto gambling, that can be even more sensitive. There has been a lot of commotion in China because of the bitcoin. Was illegal/banned for a while, but I think I read that it is legal now. Many Chinese do not dare to take the gamble (literally and figuratively) because otherwise repremands may follow. China and gambling in Bitcoin do not go well together due to the strict rules.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on May 01, 2022, 04:59:43 AM

I am trying to understand the "Club" concept, but it is difficult with the language barrier. If I understand this correctly, Chinese people are not allowed to gamble on foreign websites. (except for government-sanctioned outlets) .... so if you create a local "Club" ...it will be exempted from this law?

So you want someone to create software that will help you "manage" these Clubs? The problem with this is that someone must administrate the software and the wallets linked to this software and that is where things are going wrong. (You need trusted individuals for multi signature wallets to sign off on payments) Wink

You are right!
About the payment,i think admins could solve it in private

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Quote from: Poker Player on April 30, 2022, 10:10:24 PM

Quote from: seagullx on April 30, 2022, 02:36:02 PM

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A few years ago, when i could play real money on Pokerstars in china , its so difficult to withdraw,
I need to sell my usd to other players, a smart guy invent an application named”poker master ”
People could creat free club and invite friends play poker(gamble) together

I’m a stupid kid , so i have a question want to get somes good answers from smart guys ,
Why nobody creat a free casino website and let us creat club on it ?
Its different meaning with affiliate.
Website could charge some money from club admin even margin(limit bet figure)!

I don't want to be hard on you because you are new to the forum and you seem young, but what you say seems to me to be nonsense.

I don't know why you say that it is difficult to withdraw from Pokerstars in China, I understand that gambling is forbidden there, except in Macau. If that's why, don't take your particular problem as something general.

When I request a withdrawal from Pokerstars and it is approved, it arrives to my account almost instantly, so no problem with that. Besides, creating a free casino but charging doesn't make sense. You complicate everything a lot.

Whoever wants to play for free can go to Pokerstars and play with play money. The casino you can create is not going to have better software or more traffic than them.

Sir , thanks for your answer!
I didn’t mean I can’t withdraw from Pokerstars , i mean i need to sell my usd to other china players because I can’t take usd from ps into my china bank .
I think Pokerstars is the best online room ,i love it .

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