Topic: How to know a good bitcoin investors! (Read 1330 times)

^ I like your perspective of view here as an investor and that is what I am doing right now to stick on BTC whatever it is.
BTC has shown tremendous growth and potential and we all know that it is important to recognize that no investment is entirely risk-free. By having a substantial portion of your assets tied to BTC, you become more susceptible to its price fluctuations and overall performance.
I think being a good investor starts with being a BTC enthusiast that no matter what it takes, you will never let go of your BTC holding hoping for a better reward in the future which is proven and tested from the past years.

Bitcoin is your religion! Its almost a religious faith that Bitcoin will lead us to permanent gains. After a decade of resilience and progress, Bitcoin inspires amazement in us all.

The crypto market has many heads, and while Bitcoin is the alpha, it doesn't hurt to diversify and investigate other coins. Im not disputing Bitcoin's superiority, but in a volatile market like cryptocurrencies, its smart to hedge. Be a Bitcoin believer but open-minded.

The focus is now back on what we want to aim for. I don't really understand some things whether it's technical analysis or whatever because I'm not into that but I still believe that when we hold bitcoin and act as a good investor then everything will work out.
There is no need for a lot of frills whether we are a good investor or not because we just have to focus on the goal where we invest in bitcoin with the confidence we have and hold until the target we want is achieved.
Bitcoin is one of the things that is very feasible and when seeing progress then in this case we must also be feasible and confident in holding bitcoin as an investment that we have.

I think the supply of Bitcoin or other currencies is limited but if we do it based on demand then their price will go above them, in that case we want the price to go up. If we invest in Bitcoin, we want the price to increase, only then will our profit come. I bought bitcoins so much money in profit you can buy it a place to make good opportunities you will hear from different people. No one can say that he is a good investor. You won't need any help to become a good investor. With your patience, will power, intelligence, right thinking you can become a right investor.

Now the good and bad evidence has been clearly seen in cryptocurrency assets and Bitcoin is still very superior and cannot be beaten by other cryptocurrencies so that investors are very aware of this. I am quite sure that there are still more Bitcoin investors than other cryptocurrency investors and of course they have all been very well so far because the condition of self-price improvement in Bitcoin has also become increasingly evident in the market.

And I believe that this year there will continue to be investors who want to invest their money in Bitcoin because they are also quite confident and hope that next year can be better than this year, especially at the price of Bitcoin in the market.

You don't have to know a good bitcoin investor, is there any golden cup or prize to win if you are a good bitcoin investor? I guess not, so why is your title saying how to know a good Bitcoin investor? There are many and most don't like talking about it in the public, because it's way more safer not to discuss about your Bitcoin holding with anyone and some strategy works for some numbers of people while other people come up with their own ways, I don't want to know how to identify good Bitcoin holder, whatever you have in plan for your future make sure that you don't leave Bitcoin out of it.

I think for this matter regardless of being a maximalist or not as long as we hold bitcoin in the right way as an investor then we will benefit.
The debate about bitcoin and altcoins I think is not one of the things that can be done because we know that the result remains when talking about opportunities that bitcoin is very much superior.
But indeed we are adults to think about what we want to achieve, I want to focus on the bitcoin I have now and the goal is clear with the progress of bitcoin now.
On the other hand, I also will not be firm with my choice by assuming others are wrong because in the end they also have their own ways such as being in altcoins when it is their choice then do it.
I don't consider myself a maximalist in this regard but I love bitcoin and regardless of how people view it with maximalists or not I don't really have a problem with it.

It seems to me that the expression, "don't invest more than you can afford to lose" has at least a couple of angles.

First, you have to realize that any investment, no matter what (including bitcoin) has a potential to either go to zero or to spiral downwardly in value.  Of course, many of us have concluded that bitcoin's investment thesis is quite strong and so in that regard, it has pretty damned good odds of gravitating in the upward direction with the passage of time, even though there might be a lot of volatility along the way and even extended periods of negative price performance.  So yeah.. no one wants to lose money in any investment that they take, but if you are not accepting the fact that either your investment could spiral downward, go to zero or fail/refuse to go up within the time period of your investment, then perhaps you have invested too much into such investment (in this case bitcoin).

Second, another aspect of "not investing more than you can afford to lose" has to do with managing your short-to-medium cashflows and your emotions.  So for sure you need to be budgeting your investment into bitcoin in such a way that you do not overdo it and you have enough money to cover all of your monthly expenses - including being able to cover such monthly expenses for very long periods of time without having to rely upon bitcoin - or having to cash out of some of it at such a time that is not of your choosing (which could well be at times when the BTC price has gone down or is in low periods).  Of course if you are greatly in profits, then it might not even matter if the BTC price dips greatly and for extended periods of time, because you are still in profits even if you end up cashing out some BTC (on a kind of as needed rather than panic basis) to cover expenses.  So surely, the emotional component can affect you the more that your finances end up being stressed.

I think that it is an important concept to keep in mind.. "don't invest more than you can afford to lose" .. even if many of us consider the investment thesis of bitcoin to be quite strong, including the likelihood of it spiraling down or going to zero to be quite low, as well. Bitcoin is likely the best asymmetric bet that anyone has available in current times, so even though that may well signal that it is acceptable to be decently aggressive in your investment approach into bitcoin, it still does not protect anyone from either overdoing their aggressiveness and recking themselves or that some circumstance could come about or happen that negates the strength of bitcoin's currently strong investment thesis and in those kinds of scenarios any of us who are mostly invested in bitcoin lose money including that if bitcoin is cascading to zero, there might not be any ways to get out or to be able to recover the value of your investment, and any of us should be prepared for those kinds of scenarios, even if we might consider them to be low probabilities, they are not zero probability outcomes.


You seem to be thinking about the idea  of "don't invest more than you can afford to lose" in the wrong way, and surely any of us could end up losing, even if we do the right thing... Sure, losing might be a low probability event, but it is a non-zero scenario, and if you are failing/refusing to account for that, then you are likely not allocated and/or diversified properly. 

Don't get me wrong.  I do not agree with the concept of diversifying for the mere sake of diversification, and surely I don't believe that fucking around with shitcoins is actually sufficient diversification, since they are all dependent upon bitcoin's performance... but if you start to acquire a lot of bitcoin, and let's say 2-5 years of your annual income is in bitcoin, and you don't have any other investments, you might well start to consider that you are not sufficiently hedged for the possibility that your bitcoin investment might go to zero.  Sure, the younger that you are, then maybe the longer timeline that you have to build your investment, so part of the reason that young people can afford to be more risky than older people because if you are getting to be in your late 40s or older, you are not going to be able to tolerate losing everything as much as someone in their early to late 20s.

Surely, I have been an advocate for concentrating your investment in your earlier years, while you are building your investment portfolio, but once your investment portfolio gets to a certain size, there is a need to protect against the going to zero scenarios of any of the assets contained within your investment portfolio, even if you consider those going to zero scenarios to be quite low.

The thought that we have to make a profit by investing cannot be brought to our mind first, first you have to think how you can get enough knowledge about investing. If at first the thought of how to make profit comes to mind then we can never acquire proper knowledge about investment so first of all we have to learn. After acquiring various investment concepts you need to control your emotions along with the ability to take risks and have enough patience. All of these factors are essential to succeed in investing.

I think it's all about knowing what Bitcoin really is. If you know what you are doing and with what, it will make you the best on that subject. Know and learn your stuff and plan accordingly. That's what a good investor is to me. Bitcoin is a long-term investment plan. If you are a trader, you can make quick money by taking advantage of the volatile market. But if you truly want to invest in Bitcoin, you need to have a long-term mindset. Because with Bitcoin, all you need is time. After that time, you can just sell at high and book your profits.
So it all comes down to how well you know what you are investing in. Plan it out and execute that plan. But nothing is 100% guaranteed in the crypto world. Be sure to make a plan for that too. Plan out how much you can afford to lose. Bitcoin does not take away all your investment. In time, you will get back what you invested. If you have the will to hodl longer, you will get profits too.

To put it straight, investment is the future. When you fail to invest, you're toying with your future. No state system will continue to be helping you till you die unless you die early. Here in my state, the system will help you for certain number of years and stop when you reach that year. By the way, it's not for everyone again, only those opportune to be their slave and work for them tirelessly. Either you die or not, once you attain that age limit you'll be left alone for yourself irrespective of your condition.

There's no perfect time to start investing than now, every opportunity that comes our way should be wholly grabbed because the state system will definitely fail you. Bitcoin is however recommended for investment now and tomorrow.

IMO in conditions like this you just have to focus on what you are aiming for is actually very good in my opinion.
We have our own goals in this case even if what you say is right but it doesn't mean it will be right for other people so in this case focusing on what you want to achieve is something that is actually good for you.
To say invest what you can afford to lose actually I don't really agree with phrases like this. indeed I know that bitcoin has risks but I am here and investing in bitcoin not to lose the investment I made and it is supported by some learning and how bitcoin progresses so I don't want to lose the money I invested.
Bitcoin is something that is very good and worth investing in so I don't want to miss something like this and when you feel that losing your money doesn't matter then indirectly this becomes less meaningful in your process because you feel it doesn't matter if we lose because we have tried. but my concept, I prefer to try my best and don't want to lose what I invested here because I don't think this will get lost and lost if we do it the right way.

Thank you sir for the advice, with all these words of encouragement it shows that you truly care for newbies like me, I appreciate your efforts in the growth of those in need of a catalyst.

With these uplifting words I am now Willing to invest as all doubt has been cleared.

Thank you mr JayJuanGee.

I am trying to translate the meaning of what you are saying, but it seems grammar and typographical errors are a barrier here.

To me, one could be considered a good investor if he or she has the ability to foresee every reasonable doubt about the rise and fall of Bitcoin and yet chooses to make an investment. There is no investment that has no risk involved in it; there is always risk involved, but the ability for one to manage and reduce those risks to a minimal level is what makes the person outstand his competitor when it comes to profit making. As a good investor, you should know how to overcome fear and overlook some fuzz in order not to be a victim of panic selling, which could make you record losses instead of making some profits.

As you grow up, you learn certain kinds of competencies, and even if you did not officially learn how to manage your finances, at some point in life, you likely will need to learn how to manage your finances, and if no one teaches you, then you have to learn yourself, including learning how to invest, since if you do not invest, then you are likely going to have to continue to work until you die.. Of course, there might be some state systems that might help you out, but there likely is some value in terms of figuring out ways to improve your own situation rather than relying upon systems that may or may not hold up at times when you would prefer to discontinue working..

There should be some value in terms of building wealth in your youth, so that at some point when you get older you will not have to work as hard (or perhaps not at all) in order to stay comfortable, and no one here seems to be suggesting that any of the choices are easy, but if you fail to act because you are afraid or you want someone to teach you, then you likely are going to miss out upon a lot of possibilities to help to secure your future with better kinds of assets and even having savings that hold its value.

Experience is a great teacher, so jump the fuck in and get started, and if you feel that you do not have enough competence then just start with basics, which is figuring out the kinds of assets or money that hold their value the best and stock up on them, and if you finally at some point come to realize that bitcoin is likely amongst the best of assets (if not the best) then you may well both figure out that you need to learn about bitcoin and you may well figure out that you need to engage in some behaviors to save up upon it, perhaps with a certain amount of aggressiveness, but at the same time, hopefully not so much aggressiveness that you end up recking yourself because you got greedy and you failed./refused to keep enough money in cash (or perhaps other less valuable than bitcoin assets that you can spend) in order to be able cover your various monthly expenses without having to tap into your bitcoin stash during its building and accumulation and compounding stages, which could well take you 10-30 years to build to a meaningful level and to learn how to sufficiently safeguard it too.. and no one is saying that any of these matters are easy, even though you likely will be advantaged by making efforts to learn and to put your learnings into practice earlier rather than waiting around... and hoping that someone teaches you how to be financially and self-preservingly competent.


I am not saying that.  Each of us has to choose the best path for ourselves in order to make sure that we have a situation in which we can increase our chances for having a better life and preserving value... but the mere fact that we are able to win does not mean that others have to lose.  That is retarded kind of thinking.. to be acting as if the value is a fixed pie - since there are some things in life in which others do not have to lose in order for each of us to strive towards winning. 

Part of the thing about some people winning and other people not winning is that some people have BIGGER obstacles, bad luck and sometimes they just make dumb choices.. or they choose to gamble rather than being prudent and reasonable in their investment approaches.. or they fail/refuse to learn, so instead of investing they engage in gambling while erroneously "believing" that they are investing.


Well sure.. there are scammers in the world, so each of us is responsible for our own behaviors and our own actions, including if we are willing to follow scammers who might be showing us short-cuts in regards to how to get rich quicker.  Each of us has to figure out these matters, and there are some kinds of investments that are not scams, including but not limited to bitcoin... and if you don't recognize and appreciate the value and power of bitcoin then maybe that is upon you to figure out how to learn moar better.. and to be careful in regards to who you trust, including sometimes storing your coins in such ways because you are trying to get yield, when you may well be (and likely are)  better off by storing your own keys and being careful in any kinds of third party custodian solutions/services , even though sometimes using some third party services might sometimes be acceptable and beneficial as long as you do not put all (or large portions) of your BTC stash into those kinds of services.


You do not need to know everything, and you can learn as you go... including starting out by investing a small amount and then building your investment as your knowledge improves and maybe your cashflow also improves, then you might be able to dedicate more towards investing into bitcoin and also learning how to preserve and secure your investment becomes more and more important as the size of the investment grows, so the more that the investment grows, the more incentive that investors will have to learn more about their investment and to learn about ways to safeguard it.

There are so many things that makes a good bitcoin investor for me all of them is openness and honesty. And they adopt a strategic thinking and their attention is not divided. It is important to note and study Bitcoin and those in it to be able to pick out the good from the bad ones.

very good contribution, In my opinion, identifying a good Bitcoin investor implies considering characteristics such as persistence, self-discipline and a deep knowledge of how Bitcoin works.
These qualities are essential to succeed in this world. Although investing in BTC or cryptocurrency in general is not a fast track to getting rich, it can be profitable with a long-term perspective and well-informed decisions. and above all, recognize the inherent risk and not panic and make a move that harms the investor, due to the high volatility in this type of investment. Therefore, I would recommend investing only the money that you can afford to lose. A good additional piece of advice would be to have a job with a stable income that is not affected by investments, to avoid compromised financial situations.

If an investor really acquires all the needed information or education about any investment (in Bitcoin) they are making, then they will be ready and prepared for any "trying time (emergencies)" like you mentioned. The bitcoin price is always volatile, and it's not an asset that you can just assume will take profit within one or two months; you really have to hold it for a long time before you can make much profit. Another thing is that when you are aware of how volatile the market can be, even if the price of Bitcoin dips below the price you bought, you won't be in a panic and will not sell off to incur a loss.

Yes is true, if everybody have the same thought that will be extremely not okay, some people have to go the wrong way for others to hear something good, I have lived a life of honor and I have understand that their are some people who hear good things through bad things, just imagine a Case were a scammer tells someone who don't know anything about Bitcoin because he's trying to scam the client, that learning good from a bad reputative person, mean while a good investor doesn't live he's life so low because he's not working for the more but taking risk and if the money comes it takes grace for the investors to use the money wisely.

though am new to the whole Bitcoin world and it's concept but in addition to what mr suevie said, I believe having some qualities without a strict policy to fall back to will result to an incompetent investor as trying times may arise which could cause panic, policies are actually the building foundation of competency and when you don't have one trust me the outcome would be a disaster.