To all those naysayers.... I have decided to NOT reveal it to you even after others vouch for me.
That is even if you pay me $100.
That is even if you pay me $100.
Topic: How to profit from the stock market, no matter what! Updated 02/16/12 - page 3. (Read 7185 times)
December 08, 2011, 01:17:30 AM
December 08, 2011, 12:47:31 AM
Why do you want to sell the system? Couldn't you make more just applying it?
December 08, 2011, 12:39:38 AM
Give me $100. I'm raising funds for a company for carrying out an undertaking of great advantage, but nobody to know what it is. 
Lol. What's the return for me???I am offering a legit system for YOU to profit.
If you have a good system, you could make a lot of money starting a fund or selling/leasing it to existing funds. Have you considered this?
December 08, 2011, 12:18:37 AM
Thanks for posting screenshots. I am still confused though. It looks like you are trading at a loss.
Your total expenditures : $3116.19
Your current assets: $3034.00
Net loss: $82.19
Then you have some phantom payment. It is not clear if it is being paid to you or you are paying it to scottrade.
Phantom payment value: $94.49
If (and this is a big if) the phantom payment is actually going to you, your earnings are still much lower than you are reporting.
Net profit: $12.30
This is a three month return rate of 0.39%. That is if I trust you. Otherwise you are trading with significant losses.
Of course the payment is going to me, look at the signs. (1234) means a negative, thus taken from me. 1234 means a positive, thus given to me.Your total expenditures : $3116.19
Your current assets: $3034.00
Net loss: $82.19
Then you have some phantom payment. It is not clear if it is being paid to you or you are paying it to scottrade.
Phantom payment value: $94.49
If (and this is a big if) the phantom payment is actually going to you, your earnings are still much lower than you are reporting.
Net profit: $12.30
This is a three month return rate of 0.39%. That is if I trust you. Otherwise you are trading with significant losses.
My current assets of NVDA is $3034, but that is because I decide to KEEP it that way, I could have sold NVDA for higher gains, but I don't want to. Plus... I got another payment..... So no, I am way ahead of the game. 3 month gain is $82.19/$3116.19 = 3.03%. Again, I still have NVDA, and that is only because I decide to KEEP it.
In my other NLY example, I sold it.
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3 month gain is $82.19/$3116.19 = 3.03%.
$82.19 is your market losses
.You are calculating your "3 month gain" based on phantom payouts without taking into account your market losses. (94.49/3116.19 = 3.03% is your profit if you dont account for your losses of $82.19)
Your actual return is 0.39% (It is positive though!)
In one year (assuming continued results), you will book a 1.57% return (compounding interest every quarter).
Either you don't understand what you are doing, or you are being intentionally misleading. Either way, you should not be selling financial advice.
PS: you are right about the parentheses, thanks for clearing that up.
December 07, 2011, 11:38:41 PM
To all those naysayers.... I have decided to NOT reveal it to you even after others vouch for me.
That is even if you pay me $100.
That is even if you pay me $100.
December 07, 2011, 10:59:54 PM
I have a proven system where it will generate you solid income no matter where the market heads next, up or down, it doesn't matter.
Here you go, take your tin cup to this place.
http://collective2.com/
That is even if you pay me $100.
Trust me, once I start to get people to vouch for me, the price will be more like $500 or $1000.
Others sell this for over $3,000.
December 07, 2011, 10:53:33 PM
Thanks for posting screenshots. I am still confused though. It looks like you are trading at a loss.
Your total expenditures : $3116.19
Your current assets: $3034.00
Net loss: $82.19
Then you have some phantom payment. It is not clear if it is being paid to you or you are paying it to scottrade.
Phantom payment value: $94.49
If (and this is a big if) the phantom payment is actually going to you, your earnings are still much lower than you are reporting.
Net profit: $12.30
This is a three month return rate of 0.39%. That is if I trust you. Otherwise you are trading with significant losses.
Of course the payment is going to me, look at the signs. (1234) means a negative, thus taken from me. 1234 means a positive, thus given to me.Your total expenditures : $3116.19
Your current assets: $3034.00
Net loss: $82.19
Then you have some phantom payment. It is not clear if it is being paid to you or you are paying it to scottrade.
Phantom payment value: $94.49
If (and this is a big if) the phantom payment is actually going to you, your earnings are still much lower than you are reporting.
Net profit: $12.30
This is a three month return rate of 0.39%. That is if I trust you. Otherwise you are trading with significant losses.
My current assets of NVDA is $3034, but that is because I decide to KEEP it that way, I could have sold NVDA for higher gains, but I don't want to. Plus... I got another payment..... So no, I am way ahead of the game. 3 month gain is $82.19/$3116.19 = 3.03%. Again, I still have NVDA, and that is only because I decide to KEEP it.
In my other NLY example, I sold it.
December 07, 2011, 10:42:03 PM
Wow, over 17,000 different systems to choose from 
Amazing.
Amazing. December 07, 2011, 10:38:30 PM
I have a proven system where it will generate you solid income no matter where the market heads next, up or down, it doesn't matter.
Here you go, take your tin cup to this place.
http://collective2.com/
December 07, 2011, 10:20:53 PM
Thanks for posting screenshots. I am still confused though. It looks like you are trading at a loss.
Your total expenditures : $3116.19
Your current assets: $3034.00
Net loss: $82.19
Then you have some phantom payment. It is not clear if it is being paid to you or you are paying it to scottrade.
Phantom payment value: $94.49
If (and this is a big if) the phantom payment is actually going to you, your earnings are still much lower than you are reporting.
Net profit: $12.30
This is a three month return rate of 0.39%. That is if I trust you. Otherwise you are trading with significant losses.
Your total expenditures : $3116.19
Your current assets: $3034.00
Net loss: $82.19
Then you have some phantom payment. It is not clear if it is being paid to you or you are paying it to scottrade.
Phantom payment value: $94.49
If (and this is a big if) the phantom payment is actually going to you, your earnings are still much lower than you are reporting.
Net profit: $12.30
This is a three month return rate of 0.39%. That is if I trust you. Otherwise you are trading with significant losses.
December 07, 2011, 09:26:36 PM
Show it to S3052. If he vouches for you, you've got a massive amount of people believing you.
Like I said, the so called "trusted" members haven't replied me yet. This include S3052. December 07, 2011, 09:25:35 PM
Show it to S3052. If he vouches for you, you've got a massive amount of people believing you.
December 07, 2011, 09:23:55 PM
Why don't you tell someone already? Then you can get some validation if it's as good as you claim.
B/c the so called "trusted" members haven't replied me yet. December 07, 2011, 09:20:05 PM
Why don't you tell someone already? Then you can get some validation if it's as good as you claim.
December 07, 2011, 08:52:42 PM
I've talked to folks who traded for 40 yrs, and still don't know about this method that I use.
Wrong. This method has been used by a lot of people over decades.
Is it rare or is it common?Is it only you who knows about it, or also others too?
In my opinion, 99% of those that trade stocks haven't tried this combination.
I've talked to traders, and NONE so far uses this technique.
Also spoke with Finance major Master's graduates, with 3.5GPA.... They never heard of it, and of course, think it's fake.
December 07, 2011, 08:30:27 PM
I've talked to folks who traded for 40 yrs, and still don't know about this method that I use.
Wrong. This method has been used by a lot of people over decades.
Is it rare or is it common?
Is it only you who knows about it, or also others too?
December 07, 2011, 08:18:43 PM
So many ignorant people here, thinking everyone alive is nothing but scammers.
Do you think I am a scammer, too? Why don't you pay me $100 to help you out? Skepticism is healthy, especially on semi-anonymous internet forums. (If you give me a $100 I will actually help you, offer remains on the table, though I don't think it is prudent to trust that I am a credible source of information.)Extrapolating your data further than you should rationally be confident of is dishonest. You haven't tested this long enough to know whether it can work for a whole year, and so you shouldn't be advertising a yearly return rate.
Your offer sounds more like a scam. If you have a million dollar idea, why not do it?
My idea is NOT get rich quick scheme. You need to have TIME to let your money sit. It is $10,000 today, it will still be $10,000 tomorrow. But it would turn into $12,000 a yr from today.
December 07, 2011, 07:51:42 PM
So many ignorant people here, thinking everyone alive is nothing but scammers.
Do you think I am a scammer, too? Why don't you pay me $100 to help you out? Skepticism is healthy, especially on semi-anonymous internet forums. (If you give me a $100 I will actually help you, offer remains on the table, though I don't think it is prudent to trust that I am a credible source of information.)Extrapolating your data further than you should rationally be confident of is dishonest. You haven't tested this long enough to know whether it can work for a whole year, and so you shouldn't be advertising a yearly return rate.
December 07, 2011, 07:50:34 PM
Unless your strategy is effected by seasonality. You've pretty much screwed yourself by now, but next time I suggest you be more open and willing to share what you have to offer with someone trusted so they can vouch for you. As far as the rest of us are concerned, you're some guy on the Internet who wants $100 for his "secret investment strategy" that promises abnormally high returns. Just looks too familiar to anyone who has been disappointed by other dealings with strangers. If it's so successful, why waste time here when you could invest and make 20% a year? It sounds too good to be true and you are unwilling to offer any proof. It's hard to come to a different conclusion from scammer when presented with these facts. You may be trustworthy, but without any evidence no one will believe you are.
December 07, 2011, 07:44:21 PM
BTW, 5% in 3 months translates to 20% minimum per yr.
I'm not good at math, but for some reason I don't think that's how percentages work.
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