Topic: How to profit from the stock market, no matter what! Updated 02/16/12 - page 5. (Read 7185 times)
December 07, 2011, 04:39:10 PM
How much have you personally made? From the system itself that is - not from selling the system.
December 07, 2011, 04:37:24 PM
You can pick your own, or I can provide you with examples.
To the trollers, laugh all you can. This is a really smart way to make money. I've talked to folks who traded for 40 yrs, and still don't know about this method that I use.
To the trollers, laugh all you can. This is a really smart way to make money. I've talked to folks who traded for 40 yrs, and still don't know about this method that I use.
December 07, 2011, 04:35:25 PM
This better not be martingale bullshit...
It comes with stock picks? Oh, that really clinches it for me, it's musta gotta be great!
December 07, 2011, 04:28:09 PM
This better not be martingale bullshit...
December 07, 2011, 04:03:50 PM
Updated this post to reflect my past performance, from the time I first posted, up to 02/16/2012. I added historical info because some people seem to have a hard time understanding that this is a LONG TERM approach, NOT A GET RICH QUICK trade.
I have a proven system where it will generate you solid income no matter where the market heads next, up or down, it doesn't matter.
In order for this system to work effectively, you must have about $2500 - $10,000 to invest. This is because a trade costs $7 to execute on say Scottrade, and the fees would eat into your profit margin if your capital amount is too low.
The method I will reveal to you is very safe, almost zero risk.
You can make 15-25% or even more on your money per yr, with almost zero risk. Believe me, when you are making that kind of return, it doesn't matter where the market heads next. With my method, you win no matter what. If stock price go up, you win, if it goes down, you win.
I consider this a very low risk method because this method cannot fully protect you if stock lose 80% of it's value and couldn't recover.
But if you use my method and stock pick recommendation, that sort of thing will almost never happen.
Really cannot give out specific examples, as that would give away my strategy.
Note that this is NOT a get rich quick scheme. You must be willing to invest in the market for the long run. Minimum 3 months to 1 yr. The longer the better, and the more stable your return would be.
Let's just say that using this method, even if a gold stock goes nowhere in 12 months, you would have made about 50% return.
Let me know if you are interested. The price is $100 and up. I will teach you one on one via skype or other ways.
To learn it, you need to have internet connection, access to stock market (Google finance, Ex-Trade, Scottrade, etc, it doesn't matter), and simply addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division skills. Basically, ANYBODY that understands this post should be able to learn it.
I must say that I did NOT come up with the system. It has been used for a very long time, but used by very few traders, less than 1%. A lot of big funds managers don't know about this method either.
If you use this same method, you can retire a millionaire, but not really a billionaire, unless you are really good at it and keeps on investing.
SPECIFIC EXAMPLES
These are trades that I ACTUALLY did. The transaction fee is erased. The amount column shows the amount I receive or spend AFTER transaction fees.
Note that transaction fee is a big portion of these trades, thus you will get a better return if you spend $3000. All dates in mm/dd/yyyy.
Example 1. Trading NVDA
I didn't intend to use this technique at first, but then I changed my mind. Thus, this one I did not make much money on.
1. Bought NVDA on 07/06/2011 and 09/07/2011
2. Payment I RECEIVE on 09/07/2011
3. Another Payment I receive on 10/24/2011
4. Mind you, I did NOT sell the stock. I still own it to this very day. The image below proves that. You can check the price as of 12/07/2011 market close.
If I were to sell NVDA, I would make even more money, but I decide to keep NVDA.
I could have made more, but I decide to take it slowly and safely.
5. Time line
07/11/2011, buy 193 shares for $3,010.07
09/07/2011, buy 7 shares for $106.12
09/07/2011, received payment of 94.49
10/24/2011, received payment of $134.48
12/14/2011, paid expense of $23.50
01/05/2012, received payment of $80.48
6. Profit Calculation
Cost to buy 200 shares: $3010.07 + $106.12 = $3116.19.
Received payments: $94.49 + $134.48 + 80.48 = $309.45
Paid expenses: 23.50.
Total received less expenses (excluding original stock purchase price) = $309.45 - $23.50 = $285.95
Return on investment is $228.97 / $3116.19 = 9.17%. And I still own the stock!
As of 02/16/2012, NVDA is trading for $16.45 x 200 shares = $3290.
Again, this NVDA is not a very good example, as I wasn't really gonna use this technique on NVDA at first.
Example 2. Trading NLY
1. Bought NLY on 10/05/2011 and 10/06/2011
2. Got paid
3. Profit Calculation
Spend $2138.45 + $1003.45 = $3141.90
Received one payment of $128.49
Return on investment in say 1 month is $128.49 / $3141.90 = 4.0896%
Here, I spend a total of $3141.90 to buy the shares.
Got paid $128.49.
$128.49 / $3141.90 = 4.089%
Here, I made well 4%+ in a month, or at least 4% * 12 months = 48% a year.
I have then sold the shares at about $16. If I were to put the gains from that too, the return percentage would be even higher.
Example 3. Trading MSFT
1. Time line
11/22/2011, buy 100 shares for $2489.99
11/28/2011, buy 100 shares for $2493.76
11/28/2011, received payment 182.49
11/29/2011, buy 200 shares for $4990.52
12/01/2011, received payment $116.49
2. Profit Calculation
Cost to buy 400 shares: $2489.99 + $2493.76 + $4990.52 = $9974.27
Received payments: $182.49 + $116.49 = $298.98
Sold 400 shares: $10165.8
Return on investment if I didn't sell the stock: $298.98 / $9974.27 = 3%. And I would still own the stock.
Return on investment if I sell the stock: ($10165.8 + $298.98 - 9974.27) / $9974.27 = $490.51 / $9974.27 = 4.92%.
As of 2/16/2012, MSFT trades for over $30. But heck, I made 4.93% in ONE month.
I have posted SOME screen shots, but NOT ALL the transaction I did.
The full system is even more powerful than what I've shown.
I can't post everything, because I would give out the entire secret.
As you can see, you can easily make over $100 on this on your first trade. So this $100 cost is really nothing, compared to how quickly you will make this payment back. Once you learned this method, you would keep thanking me for sharing this with you. That is if you are a serious long term investor. I would appreciate it if you send me a little extra $$ once I made you a rich man/woman. Yes, I am that confident in this system.
THIS SYSTEM IS
1. NOT a get rich quick scheme. You need to be willing to invest LONG TERM. Short term is classified as less than 3 months. This method works best when you invest over 1 year period.
2. No margin account required. Anyone can sign up and begin trading within days.
3. No other products to buy.
4. I recommend having minimum of $3,000 to invest.
5. NOT a day trading technique.
6. Requires very little time. Maybe 5 minutes every 3 months. I personally spend a lot more time than time, but that is because I like to research into things.
7. This method won't work if you are a multi billionaire. If you have over 100 billion, it would be hard to make the 15-25% return. Sorry super rich guys.
8. ANY trading platform would work. Scottrade, Ex Trade, Ameri Trade, etc. As long as they are a legitimate stock broker.
9. The individual elements of this system is very simple, and trader uses it daily. The key is to COMBINE them at certain points, to allow persistent cash inflow to you. In my opinion, 99% of investors don't use these trading techniques COMBINED in the way this system does.
PEOPLE I HAVE TAUGHT
1. Distribution on bitcointalk.org.
REPUTATION
Here is my heatware reputation http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=64239
Trusted seller https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.644724
I have successfully completed transaction here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.644715 Teach stock trading strategy
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.667335 Bought $71 Amazon gift card
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.671346 Sold 12.6BTC for $70 Paypal
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.678922 Sold five AMD 5870
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/banco-de-kluge-bdk-on-vacation-pm-me-if-you-need-anything-59877 borrowed 200BTC, repaid.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/z-62302 borrowed 100BTC, repaid 115BTC.
QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT ASK
1. Q: Why don't you post some screen shots of your Scottrade account, showing the transactions?
A: If I post all the transactions, I would have given away the secret. I have posted SOME screen shots, but the full system is even more powerful than what I've shown.
2. Q: If you can make 15%-25% your money, then why don't you just keep it to yourself?
A: I am not a millionaire, and this 15-25% is still too slow to make money. If I can get extra money teaching others, that would be extra money that I can put into the market, and thus more return for me.
3. Q: If too many people use this, then will this not work anymore?
A: No, this will work as long as there's multi billionaires out there. Why? Because they can't really use this technique. If they do, they would end up moving the entire market, thus they won't be able to make any significantly amount of money. Remember what happened when Buffet buys Bank of America? Shares went from $5 to $7.
4. Q: Does this work on ANY stock?
A: No. Only certain stocks can make you 15-25% consistently, while others might have too much risk. Don't worry, I will teach you what to look for, and how to pick stocks.
Since people don't trust me now, so I am willing to split the payment as follows:
1. You pay me $50. I teach you the system.
2. After the teaching session, if you think the system is entirely worthless, or something you already know, I will refund you.
If you think it is ok, but not really worth $100, then don't pay me anymore. $50 is all I need.
If you think the system is very useful and well thought out technique, you make the other $50 payment, totaling $100.
If you are willing to vouch for my method, you will only pay $50 total. However, this is a LIMITED time offer. Once 3 or so people have vouched for me, this $50 total payment will no longer be an option.
TO ALL THE NAYSAYERS OR TROLLERS:
You don't need to learn this system, you can just look and move on.
I've had very limited success trying to let people in on this secret, because most people thinks it is impossible to make money in the market, regardless of the direction the market headed. One time, I even offer $10,000 to somebody to prove me wrong, to prove that I can't make money. Guess what? The guy took 6 months and still couldn't figure out a way I could lose money.
I have a proven system where it will generate you solid income no matter where the market heads next, up or down, it doesn't matter.
In order for this system to work effectively, you must have about $2500 - $10,000 to invest. This is because a trade costs $7 to execute on say Scottrade, and the fees would eat into your profit margin if your capital amount is too low.
The method I will reveal to you is very safe, almost zero risk.
You can make 15-25% or even more on your money per yr, with almost zero risk. Believe me, when you are making that kind of return, it doesn't matter where the market heads next. With my method, you win no matter what. If stock price go up, you win, if it goes down, you win.
I consider this a very low risk method because this method cannot fully protect you if stock lose 80% of it's value and couldn't recover.
But if you use my method and stock pick recommendation, that sort of thing will almost never happen.
Really cannot give out specific examples, as that would give away my strategy.
Note that this is NOT a get rich quick scheme. You must be willing to invest in the market for the long run. Minimum 3 months to 1 yr. The longer the better, and the more stable your return would be.
Let's just say that using this method, even if a gold stock goes nowhere in 12 months, you would have made about 50% return.
Let me know if you are interested. The price is $100 and up. I will teach you one on one via skype or other ways.
To learn it, you need to have internet connection, access to stock market (Google finance, Ex-Trade, Scottrade, etc, it doesn't matter), and simply addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division skills. Basically, ANYBODY that understands this post should be able to learn it.
I must say that I did NOT come up with the system. It has been used for a very long time, but used by very few traders, less than 1%. A lot of big funds managers don't know about this method either.
If you use this same method, you can retire a millionaire, but not really a billionaire, unless you are really good at it and keeps on investing.
SPECIFIC EXAMPLES
These are trades that I ACTUALLY did. The transaction fee is erased. The amount column shows the amount I receive or spend AFTER transaction fees.
Note that transaction fee is a big portion of these trades, thus you will get a better return if you spend $3000. All dates in mm/dd/yyyy.
Example 1. Trading NVDA
I didn't intend to use this technique at first, but then I changed my mind. Thus, this one I did not make much money on.
1. Bought NVDA on 07/06/2011 and 09/07/2011
2. Payment I RECEIVE on 09/07/2011
3. Another Payment I receive on 10/24/2011
4. Mind you, I did NOT sell the stock. I still own it to this very day. The image below proves that. You can check the price as of 12/07/2011 market close.
If I were to sell NVDA, I would make even more money, but I decide to keep NVDA.
I could have made more, but I decide to take it slowly and safely.
5. Time line
07/11/2011, buy 193 shares for $3,010.07
09/07/2011, buy 7 shares for $106.12
09/07/2011, received payment of 94.49
10/24/2011, received payment of $134.48
12/14/2011, paid expense of $23.50
01/05/2012, received payment of $80.48
6. Profit Calculation
Cost to buy 200 shares: $3010.07 + $106.12 = $3116.19.
Received payments: $94.49 + $134.48 + 80.48 = $309.45
Paid expenses: 23.50.
Total received less expenses (excluding original stock purchase price) = $309.45 - $23.50 = $285.95
Return on investment is $228.97 / $3116.19 = 9.17%. And I still own the stock!
As of 02/16/2012, NVDA is trading for $16.45 x 200 shares = $3290.
Again, this NVDA is not a very good example, as I wasn't really gonna use this technique on NVDA at first.
Example 2. Trading NLY
1. Bought NLY on 10/05/2011 and 10/06/2011
2. Got paid
3. Profit Calculation
Spend $2138.45 + $1003.45 = $3141.90
Received one payment of $128.49
Return on investment in say 1 month is $128.49 / $3141.90 = 4.0896%
Here, I spend a total of $3141.90 to buy the shares.
Got paid $128.49.
$128.49 / $3141.90 = 4.089%
Here, I made well 4%+ in a month, or at least 4% * 12 months = 48% a year.
I have then sold the shares at about $16. If I were to put the gains from that too, the return percentage would be even higher.
Example 3. Trading MSFT
1. Time line
11/22/2011, buy 100 shares for $2489.99
11/28/2011, buy 100 shares for $2493.76
11/28/2011, received payment 182.49
11/29/2011, buy 200 shares for $4990.52
12/01/2011, received payment $116.49
2. Profit Calculation
Cost to buy 400 shares: $2489.99 + $2493.76 + $4990.52 = $9974.27
Received payments: $182.49 + $116.49 = $298.98
Sold 400 shares: $10165.8
Return on investment if I didn't sell the stock: $298.98 / $9974.27 = 3%. And I would still own the stock.
Return on investment if I sell the stock: ($10165.8 + $298.98 - 9974.27) / $9974.27 = $490.51 / $9974.27 = 4.92%.
As of 2/16/2012, MSFT trades for over $30. But heck, I made 4.93% in ONE month.
I have posted SOME screen shots, but NOT ALL the transaction I did.
The full system is even more powerful than what I've shown.
I can't post everything, because I would give out the entire secret.
As you can see, you can easily make over $100 on this on your first trade. So this $100 cost is really nothing, compared to how quickly you will make this payment back. Once you learned this method, you would keep thanking me for sharing this with you. That is if you are a serious long term investor. I would appreciate it if you send me a little extra $$ once I made you a rich man/woman. Yes, I am that confident in this system.
THIS SYSTEM IS
1. NOT a get rich quick scheme. You need to be willing to invest LONG TERM. Short term is classified as less than 3 months. This method works best when you invest over 1 year period.
2. No margin account required. Anyone can sign up and begin trading within days.
3. No other products to buy.
4. I recommend having minimum of $3,000 to invest.
5. NOT a day trading technique.
6. Requires very little time. Maybe 5 minutes every 3 months. I personally spend a lot more time than time, but that is because I like to research into things.
7. This method won't work if you are a multi billionaire. If you have over 100 billion, it would be hard to make the 15-25% return. Sorry super rich guys.
8. ANY trading platform would work. Scottrade, Ex Trade, Ameri Trade, etc. As long as they are a legitimate stock broker.
9. The individual elements of this system is very simple, and trader uses it daily. The key is to COMBINE them at certain points, to allow persistent cash inflow to you. In my opinion, 99% of investors don't use these trading techniques COMBINED in the way this system does.
PEOPLE I HAVE TAUGHT
1. Distribution on bitcointalk.org.
REPUTATION
Here is my heatware reputation http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=64239
Trusted seller https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.644724
I have successfully completed transaction here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.644715 Teach stock trading strategy
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.667335 Bought $71 Amazon gift card
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.671346 Sold 12.6BTC for $70 Paypal
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.678922 Sold five AMD 5870
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/banco-de-kluge-bdk-on-vacation-pm-me-if-you-need-anything-59877 borrowed 200BTC, repaid.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/z-62302 borrowed 100BTC, repaid 115BTC.
QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT ASK
1. Q: Why don't you post some screen shots of your Scottrade account, showing the transactions?
A: If I post all the transactions, I would have given away the secret. I have posted SOME screen shots, but the full system is even more powerful than what I've shown.
2. Q: If you can make 15%-25% your money, then why don't you just keep it to yourself?
A: I am not a millionaire, and this 15-25% is still too slow to make money. If I can get extra money teaching others, that would be extra money that I can put into the market, and thus more return for me.
3. Q: If too many people use this, then will this not work anymore?
A: No, this will work as long as there's multi billionaires out there. Why? Because they can't really use this technique. If they do, they would end up moving the entire market, thus they won't be able to make any significantly amount of money. Remember what happened when Buffet buys Bank of America? Shares went from $5 to $7.
4. Q: Does this work on ANY stock?
A: No. Only certain stocks can make you 15-25% consistently, while others might have too much risk. Don't worry, I will teach you what to look for, and how to pick stocks.
Since people don't trust me now, so I am willing to split the payment as follows:
1. You pay me $50. I teach you the system.
2. After the teaching session, if you think the system is entirely worthless, or something you already know, I will refund you.
If you think it is ok, but not really worth $100, then don't pay me anymore. $50 is all I need.
If you think the system is very useful and well thought out technique, you make the other $50 payment, totaling $100.
If you are willing to vouch for my method, you will only pay $50 total. However, this is a LIMITED time offer. Once 3 or so people have vouched for me, this $50 total payment will no longer be an option.
TO ALL THE NAYSAYERS OR TROLLERS:
You don't need to learn this system, you can just look and move on.
I've had very limited success trying to let people in on this secret, because most people thinks it is impossible to make money in the market, regardless of the direction the market headed. One time, I even offer $10,000 to somebody to prove me wrong, to prove that I can't make money. Guess what? The guy took 6 months and still couldn't figure out a way I could lose money.
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