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Quote from: What2022 on January 27, 2022, 06:03:15 PM

That's the thing. How do I know the recovery is genuine service or scam?

I'll just add to look specifically for those with blockchain analysis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain_analysis) experience, I don't see how it's gonna work if they're not well versed about it. Also pay attention on how deeply rooted are they with exchanges, kyc firms etc.. cause i think it gives you a hint on how much information they can easily access.

Quote from: What2022 on January 27, 2022, 06:03:15 PM

And how can they recovery even if they can trace the account?

I'm not exactly sure but most likely gonna be settled legally.

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Can they forzen the account?

Only if funds lands in a centralized platform e.g. binance, coinbase etc... Users don't actually control their funds in there so the recovery service can ask to freeze a certain someone's account if they have a valid suspicion.

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Quote from: What2022 on January 27, 2022, 06:03:15 PM

That's the thing. How do I know the recovery is genuine service or scam? -snip-

I'm personally a bit skeptical of how useful this type of service can be, especially in this type of situation, but the first thing to do would be to look them up online. If you can't find anything from Bitcointalk, Reddit (with a decent amount of upvotes and comments), or an article (excluding press releases and sponsored articles) on a reputable website, then you should probably stay away from them.

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Quote from: Potato Chips on January 26, 2022, 10:14:20 PM

Quote from: What2022 on January 26, 2022, 07:09:04 AM

But someone told here before any recovery money service need to paid in advance can not be trusted? So desperate now.

IMO, as long as they are reputable in their field, advance fee works fine. If you think about it they have a valid reason to ask for it. Whatever outcome may be, work has to be done, time, effort and resources would be consumed which is what you'll be paying for.

Be careful out there, most recovery services (for stolen funds) I've seen were scams. DYOR before anything else.

That's the thing. How do I know the recovery is genuine service or scam? And how can they recovery even if they can trace the account?

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Quote from: examplens on January 26, 2022, 07:26:21 AM

Quote from: What2022 on January 26, 2022, 07:09:04 AM

The scammer told me they were in the north of Myanmar but not sure if it's true or not. But defenetely is overseas and I guess that's y they are not afraid at all. But someone told here before any recovery money service need to paid in advance can not be trusted? So desperate now.

if you want to make sure from that side as well, you can offer them money for recovery and pay in advance but, only using escrow service. if he has honest intentions, there is no reason to reject such a proposal and a third party in this deal will cover the interests of both parties.

How can I know which recovery service is genuine? And how it works? Can they forzen the account? Or need later legal litigation to get the fund back?

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Quote from: What2022 on January 26, 2022, 07:09:04 AM

But someone told here before any recovery money service need to paid in advance can not be trusted? So desperate now.

IMO, as long as they are reputable in their field, advance fee works fine. If you think about it they have a valid reason to ask for it. Whatever outcome may be, work has to be done, time, effort and resources would be consumed which is what you'll be paying for.

Be careful out there, most recovery services (for stolen funds) I've seen were scams. DYOR before anything else.

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Quote from: What2022 on January 26, 2022, 07:09:04 AM

The scammer told me they were in the north of Myanmar but not sure if it's true or not. But defenetely is overseas and I guess that's y they are not afraid at all. But someone told here before any recovery money service need to paid in advance can not be trusted? So desperate now.

if you want to make sure from that side as well, you can offer them money for recovery and pay in advance but, only using escrow service. if he has honest intentions, there is no reason to reject such a proposal and a third party in this deal will cover the interests of both parties.

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Quote from: hugeblack on January 26, 2022, 05:35:37 AM

Quote from: What2022 on January 24, 2022, 09:59:25 AM

I know. The only reason I'm posting here is I found no one can help me. Police is not willing to do anything and cyber police only contact you via email and U never know how long for the next reply. And I can still see the website still working and the scammer still on what's app talk to me everyday wanna get more.

The best that can be done is to contact the paid currency tracking^{will try to remember some good services and its better to ask the community} services, they will have direct or indirect links with exchanges and you may get information about who own that address.

It is true that anonymity is easy, but scammers are lazy, so most likely the address following this address will be owned by the scammer.

The problem lies in how to recover the money from him, which is a more difficult aspect to identify and requires that the police be serious in pursuing it, just as if it was in a second country, the problem would become greater.

In short, you will not get much information from free services.

The scammer told me they were in the north of Myanmar but not sure if it's true or not. But defenetely is overseas and I guess that's y they are not afraid at all. But someone told here before any recovery money service need to paid in advance can not be trusted? So desperate now.

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Quote from: What2022 on January 24, 2022, 09:59:25 AM

I know. The only reason I'm posting here is I found no one can help me. Police is not willing to do anything and cyber police only contact you via email and U never know how long for the next reply. And I can still see the website still working and the scammer still on what's app talk to me everyday wanna get more.

The best that can be done is to contact the paid currency tracking^{will try to remember some good services and its better to ask the community} services, they will have direct or indirect links with exchanges and you may get information about who own that address.

It is true that anonymity is easy, but scammers are lazy, so most likely the address following this address will be owned by the scammer.

The problem lies in how to recover the money from him, which is a more difficult aspect to identify and requires that the police be serious in pursuing it, just as if it was in a second country, the problem would become greater.

In short, you will not get much information from free services.

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Quote from: examplens on January 24, 2022, 08:27:47 AM

Quote from: OmegaStarScream on January 23, 2022, 09:13:10 AM

Quote from: What2022 on January 23, 2022, 08:50:57 AM

u mean keep tracking the address transactions until find some with exchange's sign after address, say Binance? Scammer asked my to borrowed my Crypto account and I refused, anything they can do with an empty Crypto.com account?

Like I said in my first post, the address you posted already has links with Binance and Crypto.com accounts. Its receiving withdrawals from both these exchanges. Is it a coincidence that everyone he scammed used these exchanges? I doubt it so now and that you mentioned that he tried to borrow your account, this could mean that he's using other people's accounts to hide his tracks since they're not under his name. I think it would really help if the law enforcement reach out to both exchanges, and ask them for a list of accounts that made a withdrawal to the address you shared with us (assuming they could share such data).

as far as I understood OP in his previous exposing his case, he sent in several transaction funds to the scammer address. In total around $120000, so it's very likely most of all transactions where is address marked from Binance or crypto.com belongs to the OP.

Quote from: What2022 on January 23, 2022, 10:07:24 AM

use the service of the mixers? whats that mean? Huh

If so, then can never be tracing??
I feel so bad now.

As I know, Ethereum or ERC20 tokens is more complicated for mixing and hiding. but honestly, you don't have much reason to be optimistic.

I know. The only reason I'm posting here is I found no one can help me. Police is not willing to do anything and cyber police only contact you via email and U never know how long for the next reply. And I can still see the website still working and the scammer still on what's app talk to me everyday wanna get more.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on January 23, 2022, 09:13:10 AM

Quote from: What2022 on January 23, 2022, 08:50:57 AM

u mean keep tracking the address transactions until find some with exchange's sign after address, say Binance? Scammer asked my to borrowed my Crypto account and I refused, anything they can do with an empty Crypto.com account?

Like I said in my first post, the address you posted already has links with Binance and Crypto.com accounts. Its receiving withdrawals from both these exchanges. Is it a coincidence that everyone he scammed used these exchanges? I doubt it so now and that you mentioned that he tried to borrow your account, this could mean that he's using other people's accounts to hide his tracks since they're not under his name. I think it would really help if the law enforcement reach out to both exchanges, and ask them for a list of accounts that made a withdrawal to the address you shared with us (assuming they could share such data).

as far as I understood OP in his previous exposing his case, he sent in several transaction funds to the scammer address. In total around $120000, so it's very likely most of all transactions where is address marked from Binance or crypto.com belongs to the OP.

Quote from: What2022 on January 23, 2022, 10:07:24 AM

use the service of the mixers? whats that mean? Huh

If so, then can never be tracing??
I feel so bad now.

As I know, Ethereum or ERC20 tokens is more complicated for mixing and hiding. but honestly, you don't have much reason to be optimistic.

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Quote from: What2022 on January 23, 2022, 10:07:24 AM

Quote from: Taskford on January 23, 2022, 09:22:16 AM

Quote from: What2022 on January 21, 2022, 06:18:52 AM

I reported scam website www.bitz-global.com and recipient address to cyber police and they replied the address - 0x66Da60ECE375739E211eB103e0d1DE1A17C4a2C0 is not with a currency exchange that they can identify.

Anyone knows any ways to know the currency exchange provider with given address? Huh

it is not Binance account as I asked with Binance.

Why you think they are using a Exchange account for scamming? Scammers are so smart now and they will not think and use that option since their stolen balances might get lock if their victims will report them to local authority so I guess the scammer use the service of mixers since they can escape with that by not leaving any trace.

use the service of the mixers? whats that mean? Huh

If so, then can never be tracing??
I feel so bad now.

Not really still they can be traced but chances are thin, Bitcoin mixers are actually here for better privacy not to launder the money which are from hacked wallets, even some of the Bitcoin mixers were shut down and charged a lot of penalty for letting the people to launder the money.

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Quote from: Taskford on January 23, 2022, 09:22:16 AM

Quote from: What2022 on January 21, 2022, 06:18:52 AM

I reported scam website www.bitz-global.com and recipient address to cyber police and they replied the address - 0x66Da60ECE375739E211eB103e0d1DE1A17C4a2C0 is not with a currency exchange that they can identify.

Anyone knows any ways to know the currency exchange provider with given address? Huh

it is not Binance account as I asked with Binance.

Why you think they are using a Exchange account for scamming? Scammers are so smart now and they will not think and use that option since their stolen balances might get lock if their victims will report them to local authority so I guess the scammer use the service of mixers since they can escape with that by not leaving any trace.

use the service of the mixers? whats that mean? Huh

If so, then can never be tracing??
I feel so bad now.

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Quote from: What2022 on January 21, 2022, 06:18:52 AM

I reported scam website www.bitz-global.com and recipient address to cyber police and they replied the address - 0x66Da60ECE375739E211eB103e0d1DE1A17C4a2C0 is not with a currency exchange that they can identify.

Anyone knows any ways to know the currency exchange provider with given address? Huh

it is not Binance account as I asked with Binance.

Why you think they are using a Exchange account for scamming? Scammers are so smart now and they will not think and use that option since their stolen balances might get lock if their victims will report them to local authority so I guess the scammer use the service of mixers since they can escape with that by not leaving any trace.

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Quote from: What2022 on January 23, 2022, 08:50:57 AM

u mean keep tracking the address transactions until find some with exchange's sign after address, say Binance? Scammer asked my to borrowed my Crypto account and I refused, anything they can do with an empty Crypto.com account?

Like I said in my first post, the address you posted already has links with Binance and Crypto.com accounts. Its receiving withdrawals from both these exchanges. Is it a coincidence that everyone he scammed used these exchanges? I doubt it so now and that you mentioned that he tried to borrow your account, this could mean that he's using other people's accounts to hide his tracks since they're not under his name. I think it would really help if the law enforcement reach out to both exchanges, and ask them for a list of accounts that made a withdrawal to the address you shared with us (assuming they could share such data).

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Quote from: Findingnemo on January 23, 2022, 04:12:41 AM

It is not possible to find the identity of an individual just with the address, so keep tracking the address and checkout is there any transaction ha e connection with any exchange's address which simply shown in the blockchain explorer then contact the support of that particular exchange then hope they can find the identity of the person but in general it has to be proceed by the cyber police not by the victim itself.

u mean keep tracking the address transactions until find some with exchange's sign after address, say Binance? Scammer asked my to borrowed my Crypto account and I refused, anything they can do with an empty Crypto.com account?

Quote from: examplens on January 23, 2022, 07:01:50 AM

Quote from: What2022 on January 23, 2022, 01:57:50 AM

The website I was given by the scammer is www.bitz-global.com, im not sure its URL with www or not. Someone added me whats app a week ago and persuading me trading on this scam fake trading website.

redirections on the site are not well done (just another proof that they are amateurs). With www, a link opens as HTTP without security protocol (https), the one who made the site had to do some little things on the DNS settings to avoid death link.
like I said, those are beginner mistakes and it clearly indicates to me that there is no serious business behind here.

I will consider this address as connected, probably by the same owner or team. Most of the funds has been sent on there https://etherscan.io/address/0x31442e7dc64a1e848b431031e0741d11f9433ee6#tokentxns

it looks like they have many address, last time I saw some address with above 10m balance. the thing is maybe they are amateurs, but no one is tracing them at all. So they wont be caught forever?

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Quote from: What2022 on January 23, 2022, 01:57:50 AM

The website I was given by the scammer is www.bitz-global.com, im not sure its URL with www or not. Someone added me whats app a week ago and persuading me trading on this scam fake trading website.

redirections on the site are not well done (just another proof that they are amateurs). With www, a link opens as HTTP without security protocol (https), the one who made the site had to do some little things on the DNS settings to avoid death link.
like I said, those are beginner mistakes and it clearly indicates to me that there is no serious business behind here.

I will consider this address as connected, probably by the same owner or team. Most of the funds has been sent on there https://etherscan.io/address/0x31442e7dc64a1e848b431031e0741d11f9433ee6#tokentxns

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It is not possible to find the identity of an individual just with the address, so keep tracking the address and checkout is there any transaction ha e connection with any exchange's address which simply shown in the blockchain explorer then contact the support of that particular exchange then hope they can find the identity of the person but in general it has to be proceed by the cyber police not by the victim itself.

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Quote from: BitMaxz on January 22, 2022, 07:16:47 PM

How did you find this website? Like the above said it's a 1-month-old site and the one thing that I notice is it only has 2 crawled backlinks. I can access the website but it seems images are a bit blurred it looks like a fake exchange.

So how did you find this website? It seems that you posted it here just to make sure to have backlinks here on the forum?
I see many new accounts here doing the same thing and few days or months they are going to edit the thread to make sure it won't look scam and don't easily notice by mods.

So can you tell us where did you find this website?

If you don't own this I suggest you edit the first post above and remove the www. because the website does not have www. under the URL when accessing the website so what you said from the first post is suspicious.

The website I was given by the scammer is www.bitz-global.com, im not sure its URL with www or not. Someone added me whats app a week ago and persuading me trading on this scam fake trading website.
When I post my first post I'm not 100% sure it is a scam but very soon I confirmed that. Firstly, I wanna everyone know it is a scam. And I am just seeking some ideas here as the work I did seem not very useful about reporting the scam, so I post here to see if anyone can give me some suggestions if any sources can help me trace the fund even I know it is hard. But I can not sleep well recently and police just called me 6am this morning said as it is Crypto they can not do much and Cyber Police replies really slow and I am not sure will they treat it seriously or not.

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How did you find this website? Like the above said it's a 1-month-old site and the one thing that I notice is it only has 2 crawled backlinks. I can access the website but it seems images are a bit blurred it looks like a fake exchange.

So how did you find this website? It seems that you posted it here just to make sure to have backlinks here on the forum?
I see many new accounts here doing the same thing and few days or months they are going to edit the thread to make sure it won't look scam and don't easily notice by mods.

So can you tell us where did you find this website?

If you don't own this I suggest you edit the first post above and remove the www. because the website does not have www. under the URL when accessing the website so what you said from the first post is suspicious.

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Quote from: sheenshane on January 22, 2022, 09:27:30 AM

Quote from: What2022 on January 21, 2022, 08:09:08 AM

They also asked if i have Binance account so maybe they will contact. I contacted Binance before as well, it said if the final account belongs to Binance, they can frozen the account but this address is not Binance account so they cant do anything.

so i was wondering how to find the provider???

This doesn't belong to Binance exchange because it has a verified account from Binance. I used this ( https://etherchain.org ) to determine the address but it seems it comes from the account and its unverified address.

I have suspected that you have been a victim of a fraud exchange, the link of the exchange that you have given above isn't accessible or shutting down and I check it on Who.is it was registered last month which is not looking good.
Just watch out for the address that you have given where your fund last landed, contact again any cyber police to investigate which exchange they will use.

Thanks for your reply. Yes I have already reported to Cyber police. The link I can still open till now, tell me my phone is not hacked right.....

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