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Yes, I understand what you mean, the point is, don't do what you posted if want to be rich, but if want to be poor, have to obey what you say. Grin

Yes, sometimes we always carry out habits that make us fall into poverty and indeed habits like the ones you mentioned are always carried out by many people, including myself, who have done this and as a result it will be difficult to become rich.

We all definitely want to be rich or want to become richer but sometimes there are times when luck doesn't come our way and it's certainly not our desire to be poor. but the best thing is to keep trying and work according to your abilities and learn from failure to achieve success.

Yes, I hope that by making this topic we will realize that we should not do things that make us poor.

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Quote from: Lida93 on January 10, 2024, 04:52:21 AM

As a businessman or salary earners here are tips on how to stay poor in life. Grin

3. Become an extremely cheerful giver/lender to friends and family. A wisdom quote I read somewhere said, "if you want to lose your friends and family lend them money". Keeping doing this and you going to be successfully poor.

Being poor is not absolute because it is a definite process, but I like what you wrote in point no. 3 and there is one interesting thing here in terms of the repayment commitment if it is not on time, causing financial tension for the lender, even though there has been a mutual agreement, but often the conditions say otherwise.

And in my opinion, if you want to help someone, help them without endangering our own financial stability, especially if we have a family. Just like we invest in crypto and trade, at least the initial requirement is to use cold money.

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Quote from: 2Pizza410000BTC on January 19, 2024, 03:57:49 PM

Quote from: Lida93 on January 10, 2024, 04:52:21 AM

As a businessman or salary earners here are tips on how to stay poor in life. Grin

1. Spending your money on unnecessary items immediately the money arrives. Trying to prove a point to people by living a standard that is above your pay grade.

2. Live on one source of income. Everyday of our life our responsibilities and challenges keeps piling up accumulating without consideration to our financial capability. The economy and cost of living continue getting worsen. So in order not to be able to beat this piling settle comfortably on a single source of income flow.

3. Become an extremely cheerful giver/lender to friends and family. A wisdom quote I read somewhere said, "if you want to lose your friends and family lend them money". Keeping doing this and you going to be successfully poor.

4.Learn how not to mind your own business, making every events around you your concern even when it doesn't affect you. It's a nice way to make cool enemies. Etc.

I trust you all get the sarcasm as conveyed.

No one wants to be poor in life, everyone wants to do something good to change their life and become rich. God may make you poor but your efforts can make you very rich. A man can never do anything good if there is no effort in himself. All the points you mentioned here are definitely correct. Going from rich to poor is due to people's laziness, unaccountable movement and spending unaccounted money, and going from poor to rich is also done through human efforts. So whatever you do in life, you must lead life in a way that helps you to do something in life. Life should not be conducted in such a way that darkness descends on my life.

I agree, that someone might say they would like to be poor just to be happy for example, living with someone you like similar to the movies is living in a world of fantasies. I mean there's no judgment about that, it's just that the first thing that comes to my mind when someone wants to be poor. Finance is a must-cause that would help you to sustain all of your needs, that's why everyone is making an effort to escape being poor that every day feels like survival rather than living. Rich to poor would be possible from their laziness cause they are used to a lifestyle where money is always there to provide everything they need, so they lack the effort. Both have processed, it would really differ on how they handle life with their hard work and efforts.

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Quote from: 2Pizza410000BTC on January 19, 2024, 03:57:49 PM

Quote from: Lida93 on January 10, 2024, 04:52:21 AM

As a businessman or salary earners here are tips on how to stay poor in life. Grin

1. Spending your money on unnecessary items immediately the money arrives. Trying to prove a point to people by living a standard that is above your pay grade.

2. Live on one source of income. Everyday of our life our responsibilities and challenges keeps piling up accumulating without consideration to our financial capability. The economy and cost of living continue getting worsen. So in order not to be able to beat this piling settle comfortably on a single source of income flow.

3. Become an extremely cheerful giver/lender to friends and family. A wisdom quote I read somewhere said, "if you want to lose your friends and family lend them money". Keeping doing this and you going to be successfully poor.

4.Learn how not to mind your own business, making every events around you your concern even when it doesn't affect you. It's a nice way to make cool enemies. Etc.

I trust you all get the sarcasm as conveyed.

No one wants to be poor in life, everyone wants to do something good to change their life and become rich. God may make you poor but your efforts can make you very rich. A man can never do anything good if there is no effort in himself. All the points you mentioned here are definitely correct. Going from rich to poor is due to people's laziness, unaccountable movement and spending unaccounted money, and going from poor to rich is also done through human efforts. So whatever you do in life, you must lead life in a way that helps you to do something in life. Life should not be conducted in such a way that darkness descends on my life.

Depends on the effort that you are making on which it would really be just that depending on the things that you are doing because success doesnt really come without hardwork on which it would really be just that normal that you would really be needing to do adjust accordingly because you cant really be able to make yourself that successful if you wont really be making any actions on which we do know that it would really be that a huge problem if we do able to make ourselves seen on that failure state just because we arent really doing something for us to succeed or would really be having that kind of actions
basing up on the goals and wishes that we do have in life. Savings and proper spending should really be the key and this is why its would really be that important that you should really know
on what are the sensible things that you must do.

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Quote from: Lida93 on January 10, 2024, 04:52:21 AM

As a businessman or salary earners here are tips on how to stay poor in life. Grin

1. Spending your money on unnecessary items immediately the money arrives. Trying to prove a point to people by living a standard that is above your pay grade.

2. Live on one source of income. Everyday of our life our responsibilities and challenges keeps piling up accumulating without consideration to our financial capability. The economy and cost of living continue getting worsen. So in order not to be able to beat this piling settle comfortably on a single source of income flow.

3. Become an extremely cheerful giver/lender to friends and family. A wisdom quote I read somewhere said, "if you want to lose your friends and family lend them money". Keeping doing this and you going to be successfully poor.

4.Learn how not to mind your own business, making every events around you your concern even when it doesn't affect you. It's a nice way to make cool enemies. Etc.

I trust you all get the sarcasm as conveyed.

No one wants to be poor in life, everyone wants to do something good to change their life and become rich. God may make you poor but your efforts can make you very rich. A man can never do anything good if there is no effort in himself. All the points you mentioned here are definitely correct. Going from rich to poor is due to people's laziness, unaccountable movement and spending unaccounted money, and going from poor to rich is also done through human efforts. So whatever you do in life, you must lead life in a way that helps you to do something in life. Life should not be conducted in such a way that darkness descends on my life.

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Quote from: martinex on January 19, 2024, 12:51:51 PM

If we don't have dependents, I think you can still do it, but if we already have responsibilities, for example you already have a family, the problem of meeting basic needs comes first and for a life-style family you have to reduce it little by little. The important thing is not to do things that don't add to the burden, for example as you said above, take a loan if it's not really necessary. yes. Just adjust it to be more precise in my opinion and just enjoy it while continuing to try as hard as possible.

What you say is true and to be honest, I also feel what you say in my life, single life and family life have a striking difference like the earth and the sky, when single, we only need to think about ourselves and even 100$ can meet our needs for as long as a week without needing to save, but now that we have a family, 100$ is only enough for a few days and we are forced to save to guard against sudden expenses, even instinctively we no longer care about ourselves but the needs of the family are the main focus for us as heads family, I think maybe all of us here have had the desire to buy something expensive but instead canceled it because it would be better to save the money and use it for our wife or children.

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Quote from: idarasun on January 17, 2024, 10:48:06 PM

Your views i noticed illustrate that the importance of a positive mentality and a life full of independence in dealing with finances, a constructive mindset and taking responsibility for ones own life and even a family and maybe this will be the key to changing his fate towards a better direction and even getting extraordinary potential. But it all requires extra-strong efforts from him to achieve success in the future not just relying on the hopes of others and dependence on them.

The point is you have to know how to better manage stress due to work or any investment. If trading is probably the main thing and you have to be tough in facing pressure if you see investment dropping drastically like today.

Quote from: junder on January 18, 2024, 08:16:34 AM

Of course, those who have a good mindset will not take out a loan if it is not really necessary. Many people take out loans to force this style which is wrong, because with this they will be in debt with interest getting bigger as time goes by, however, this does not apply to those who have a good mindset. This happens to those who have poor thinking, thinking about wanting to be stylish but not looking at their own financial situation.

This can indeed put someone in poverty, possibly in the long term, because if they cannot pay off their debts, they will experience bad things, such as being chased by loan sharks who collect their debts. You are right, if they have a bad lifestyle then chances are their future will not be good. because in my opinion, people who only think about their lifestyle tend not to care about their future because they only think about their own style

If we don't have dependents, I think you can still do it, but if we already have responsibilities, for example you already have a family, the problem of meeting basic needs comes first and for a life-style family you have to reduce it little by little. The important thing is not to do things that don't add to the burden, for example as you said above, take a loan if it's not really necessary. yes. Just adjust it to be more precise in my opinion and just enjoy it while continuing to try as hard as possible.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on January 18, 2024, 06:20:22 AM

Quote from: davis196 on January 17, 2024, 06:08:31 AM

Another way to stay poor is to borrow lots of money(on high interest rates) and spend them on gambling, alcohol and women. You will end up flat broke and probably in big trouble, but you will have the time of your life. Grin

Smart people won't think to have loan money with huge amounts. So, only careless people will do this. No doubt the people will stay poor if they easily borrow money from others. Moreover, if they drink alcohol and have a lot of women. This makes more complicated problem. If we have this bad lifestyle, we will have no future.

Of course, those who have a good mindset will not take out a loan if it is not really necessary. Many people take out loans to force this style which is wrong, because with this they will be in debt with interest getting bigger as time goes by, however, this does not apply to those who have a good mindset. This happens to those who have poor thinking, thinking about wanting to be stylish but not looking at their own financial situation.

This can indeed put someone in poverty, possibly in the long term, because if they cannot pay off their debts, they will experience bad things, such as being chased by loan sharks who collect their debts. You are right, if they have a bad lifestyle then chances are their future will not be good. because in my opinion, people who only think about their lifestyle tend not to care about their future because they only think about their own style

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Quote from: davis196 on January 17, 2024, 06:08:31 AM

The easiest way to stay poor is to never get a job and always rely financially on your parents.
Another way to stay poor is to borrow lots of money(on high interest rates) and spend them on gambling, alcohol and women. You will end up flat broke and probably in big trouble, but you will have the time of your life. Grin

Staying poor isn't something to be ashamed with. Jesus Christ told the people to sell all their possessions, give away everything to the poor and the widows and live their life in poverty(without material possessions). This is probably the only way to enter Heaven after you die.
Maybe being poor has it's advantages.

Other strategies to be impoverished are more subtle and ignored. Missing out on education or training. Trust me - its a hidden poverty trap. Not investing in yourself is like not planting seeds in a fertile field - growth is untapped.

The spiritual richness of poverty is a significant concept. Its important to distinguish between intentional simplicity and forced poverty. The former can lead to spiritual and personal enlightenment. But the latter? Missed opportunities and unrealized potential are common. Never romanticize poverty or regard it as a ticket to heaven. Balance—meeting financial necessities without drowning in spiritual debt - is key.

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Quote from: davis196 on January 17, 2024, 06:08:31 AM

The easiest way to stay poor is to never get a job and always rely financially on your parents.

I think only the people who have rich parents probably do this. If you have poor parents, you won't rely on your parents forever. When you have been a an adult person, your parents will ask you to find out jobs. Even some parents let their sons to have a job since they are teenagers. Educated parents must be aware that their children must be independent people by having jobs.

Quote from: davis196 on January 17, 2024, 06:08:31 AM

Another way to stay poor is to borrow lots of money(on high interest rates) and spend them on gambling, alcohol and women. You will end up flat broke and probably in big trouble, but you will have the time of your life. Grin

Smart people won't think to have loan money with huge amounts. So, only careless people will do this. No doubt the people will stay poor if they easily borrow money from others. Moreover, if they drink alcohol and have a lot of women. This makes more complicated problem. If we have this bad lifestyle, we will have no future.

Quote from: davis196 on January 17, 2024, 06:08:31 AM

Staying poor isn't something to be ashamed with. Jesus Christ told the people to sell all their possessions, give away everything to the poor and the widows and live their life in poverty(without material possessions). This is probably the only way to enter Heaven after you die.
Maybe being poor has it's advantages.

If you can't be rich, it won't be a problem. But if you have no efforts and you are proud to be poor people, it is not a wise decision in life. We have 2 options in this life, making efforts to be better or stay with our poor life. God appreciates our efforts, he will give the way to change our life if we make efforts. But if we make no efforts, God will let us to stay poor.

Having poor life isn't something embarrassing. But doing no effort is surely something embarrassing!!

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Quote from: harapan on January 13, 2024, 03:26:09 AM

The idea of poverty transcends from generation to generation.No body wants to be poor but most persons end up being poor.

Having a poor mentality or mindset is another feature to staying poor.Having a poor mentality will stop you from achieving your full potentials or goals.it's holding from living a full filled and happy life.People with a poor mindset think poorly,act poorly,remain and live poor.
People with poor mindset are immobile,lazy,and sticker in the mediocre shell.They don't want to do anything for themselves,they agonize
Over setbacks other than finding a solution as they allow their poor mindset to control how they live their lives and what choices they make.

Another thing is that people are waiting for someone to save them from their stagnancy;in many occasion,people believe that having the right connection or knowing the right people in power can expose you to opportunities.In world we are now,no one needs to tell us how yo be successful.It is inaccurate and unsatisfied to depend or entrust yourself to someone with your life or entire wellbeing because no one can give me your worth The reality is that no one Is coming to shape your life or fix for you,its all up to you.

Your views i noticed illustrate that the importance of a positive mentality and a life full of independence in dealing with finances, a constructive mindset and taking responsibility for ones own life and even a family and maybe this will be the key to changing his fate towards a better direction and even getting extraordinary potential. But it all requires extra-strong efforts from him to achieve success in the future not just relying on the hopes of others and dependence on them.

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The easiest way to stay poor is to never get a job and always rely financially on your parents.
Another way to stay poor is to borrow lots of money(on high interest rates) and spend them on gambling, alcohol and women. You will end up flat broke and probably in big trouble, but you will have the time of your life. Grin

Staying poor isn't something to be ashamed with. Jesus Christ told the people to sell all their possessions, give away everything to the poor and the widows and live their life in poverty(without material possessions). This is probably the only way to enter Heaven after you die.
Maybe being poor has it's advantages.

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In times of economic crisis there is a need for the practice of deliberately going through the motions of adversity. Indulge yourself by buying unnecessary things after you get what is important to you. Which leads you to develop a lifestyle that exceeds your actual financial means. Limit yourself to one income, ignoring the growing challenges and responsibilities for money. Take utmost care when dealing with friends and relatives as relationships are damaged by transactions. Follow all these strategies. One can master the art of staying poor, maintaining a perpetual struggle against financial well-being.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on January 15, 2024, 03:59:45 PM

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Yes you are right, something that is forbidden will be easily remembered, and that is proven by the many rules that are broken for example, not just in this context, but across the board. For people who take a glance and don't delve deeper into what the OP is saying, they might protest. But if it is explored further then there is a figurative meaning here so that we think more.
Sometimes it is the comfort zone that prevents us from getting out of the poverty zone, they become afraid and in the end have pessimistic thoughts, that's what we have to fix first. Because I also think that mindset is one of the important factors to avoid poverty.

Most of the time when it comes to financial management then people do really fail on this one. Why? they are really that focusing on things which arent supposed to be
focused or put some importance. People would really be just focusing on things on which they do know that they could really be able to have without
even minding on what would happen in the future.

I personally always keep 3 things in mind in this case, which are primary, secondary and tertiary needs, I just make sure my primary needs are fulfilled and I don't think too much about the other 2 needs. Clothing, food and shelter are things that I have to fulfill and maybe investment is now one of them that I discipline in my life.
You are right that many people do things that are not really necessary and urgent, one of the causes is the environmental factors around them. sometimes they have prestige which in the end forces themselves to do something unnecessary and sooner or later it will hamper them in terms of finance.

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Among all that you have mentioned, the one i slightly disagree with is becoming a cheerful giver, i mean don't they say givers never lack? You may not have noticed it but it is usually that way, when you give you get double in return, you should try it Grin

If you really want to stay poor, be stagnant, don't aim for any goal. People are poor not because they give out but because they are too rigid and not open to change. You can can be a cheerful giver and still maintain a healthy financial status.

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Quote from: Lida93 on January 10, 2024, 04:52:21 AM

2. Live on one source of income. Everyday of our life our responsibilities and challenges keeps piling up accumulating without consideration to our financial capability. The economy and cost of living continue getting worsen. So in order not to be able to beat this piling settle comfortably on a single source of income flow.

I can't recall what book I read that told about the reverse psychology on things like instead of saying "You should have multiple sources of income to meet your needs" to others there is no effect on it like it is just a normal word but if you say "You should live only with one source of income, which is earning pretty low" you have a survival instinct kick in that you shouldn't do it because you struggle and are scared of it. This is also my way of thinking now to prevent things or get motivated.

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Quote from: cozytrade on January 16, 2024, 12:31:04 AM

OP As you said, I don't think anyone would ever do this to be poor. People consider poverty as the curse of society. People now no one wants to be poor, everyone wants to live in high luxury. Now people try and do something different to earn extra money no matter what job or business they are doing. A wealthy man would never try to spend or squander his hard-earned money in a healthy mind. Because a person has to do a lot of effort and struggle to become rich. But significantly a person does not have to suffer to become poor. If a person tries to sit and eat without doing work, then he will surely become poor slowly.

I also think that no one wants to live in poverty, because as you said, poverty is a curse, so I don't think anyone wants to experience being cursed. Of course everyone wants a decent life like luxury and has everything covered including their basic needs, many of them are looking for work with the aim of achieving financial freedom, so in my opinion the large number of people who want to work means they don't want poverty in their lives.

I agree with you, if they just sit down to eat without any effort or work, then they are already going through the process of becoming poor, and OP's advice is very correct for people who want to get poor quickly, but the question is, is there anyone who wants to live poor? or remain in poverty?
I don't think there is, because if there are people who have thoughts like that, I think their reasoning is unhealthy, because I'm sure everyone wants wealth or financial freedom, because that is one of everyone's goals in life. except for those who are stuck in their comfort zone, without having a job but they still maintain that situation, because they feel comfortable so they don't think about other things to develop.

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Absolutely, it's clear that your statements are meant to be sarcastic and highlight behaviors that can contribute to financial struggles. Your points cleverly underline the importance of financial responsibility, diversification of income sources, and maintaining healthy personal boundaries. It's a humorous way to convey valuable lessons about financial management and personal well-being. If anyone wants to avoid financial stability, following these tongue-in-cheek tips would certainly be a good start!

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The best way to stay poor is to do nothing, do not be motivated by hard working people around you, wake up every morning and go back to bed.

Have strong believe in this common word from people, that goes as, vanity upon vanity, since everything is vanity don't bother have a dream or goals.

If you must dream, let if stay a dream, when you sleep, make sure you have dreams about you swimming in a pool of money with beautiful girls around you, enjoy that dream so much that you can't wait to sleep again and continue that journey in your sleep.

Create this mindset that those who have money in this world are all sinner, they must have done many bad things to acquire their wealth, there is no way to become rich without getting your hands dirty, and since you are a saint you should run after heavens paradise, so avoid getting your hands dirty, money is evil, don't work for it.

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Quote from: Lida93 on January 10, 2024, 04:52:21 AM

1. Spending your money on unnecessary items immediately the money arrives. Trying to prove a point to people by living a standard that is above your pay grade.

This concerns lifestyle and most people will have more problems when they have this kind of view in living their daily lives, especially if the income they receive is not commensurate with their expenses.
In the end it doesn't solve the problem but adds to the burden of life which basically makes the financial system worse.

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2. Live on one source of income. Everyday of our life our responsibilities and challenges keeps piling up accumulating without consideration to our financial capability. The economy and cost of living continue getting worsen. So in order not to be able to beat this piling settle comfortably on a single source of income flow.

The more income we receive from various jobs, the greater the expenses we will spend. This is a formula for balance in dealing with financial problems.
If someone is not good at managing expenses and income then whatever amount of money we have will also run out, because living life today there are a number of goods that increase uncontrollably.

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4.Learn how not to mind your own business, making every events around you your concern even when it doesn't affect you. It's a nice way to make cool enemies. Etc.

I don't understand what you mean because actually building your own business is much better than working for someone else.
But keep in mind that building a business is not as easy as you imagine because there are many factors to consider.
If we don't have the skills to build a business, it will actually make the business not develop and in the end we will lose the capital when we start it.

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