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Quote from: Text on March 16, 2017, 08:35:52 PM

What ever strategy you use in gambling even martingale system, it would not change the low chance of winnings. You will lose in consecutive bets but still the risk is very high to lose more using that system. So always be ready and accepts what will be result is, be sporty.

Martingale is good if you have a good amount of bankroll, however never thing you are exploiting the gambling sites with this system as you winning experience could only be temporary. No system will work in game where house edge is present, never try to dig deeper as in now way you will succeed.
Maybe just save your money and put it in a legitimate investment if you want to earn.

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Quote from: Text on March 16, 2017, 08:35:52 PM

What ever strategy you use in gambling even martingale system, it would not change the low chance of winnings. You will lose in consecutive bets but still the risk is very high to lose more using that system. So always be ready and accepts what will be result is, be sporty.

It's not about that, it's cause martingale is progressive strategy, and all casinos, and other gambling site's have limited maximum bet, that mean that after some bets you won't be able to double your bet. Gamble with your own strategy and you will have more success but develop strategy, don't just hunt random numbers.
For me best strategy is to chase high odds above 80-90 or under 20-10, but I count bets in some specific way and its hard for me to explain that, find your own that is the best way.

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huge bankroll still has a limit , so it would still never work to earn profit . at some point you got a losing streaks and that time the whole bankroll you have just gone in a couple seconds, martingale betting system was never ever be a good strategy it's even the worst strategy to sucks your money faster in regret. even you know when to stop , when you do martingale continuously in the next days , it's useless.

There is no otherway but to do a forced stop whenever you win after a long losing streak. That is the best strategy for martingale in order to book a winnings. If we keep on going with this method without stopping, then we can just find our bankroll emptied since martingale is disastrous in the long run.

well if you can manage to quit after maybe hitting 3 times might possible to earn little coming from this system because staying for a long period will really messed up with your bankroll, better to be contented with small winnings than to lose everything you've got.

this assuming that you can win many times in a row, but the worst thing arrive when you lose and you want to keep betting because you want at least one win, no strategy work at that point, it's you against the system and your emotions will kill your profit

Using bot does not involve emotion at all but still we are not successful with this method, it will only prove that there is no guaranteed method to win in gambling especially when you are playing in games where house edge exist. I'm not new to that system as when I was a newbie I was also curious and tried the method, but unfortunately I failed that's why I will say that it's not working for longer gambling activity.

Using a bot will show to you that even with the brutal efficiency of computers there is no way to win, so a human that cannot bet for long periods of time without getting bored of the game the probabilities are even lower since it is impossible to maintain that level of concentration.

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What ever strategy you use in gambling even martingale system, it would not change the low chance of winnings. You will lose in consecutive bets but still the risk is very high to lose more using that system. So always be ready and accepts what will be result is, be sporty.

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Quote from: pixie85 on March 16, 2017, 08:05:54 PM

Your chances of winning with martingale are the same as normal. The only difference is that martingale may seem safe because you're starting with very small bets and any early losses can be mitigated. This gives you a false sense of security. In reality you will sooner or later hit a streak and that will be the end. In martingale you can lose 2 - 3 times in a row and get it all erased with a single win, but the problem starts when you hit 5 or 6 losses and run out of money. What then?

For me Martingale doesn't look safer than another modes, for me it's the most dangerous way to play. You never know when will be your end. It's not certain you will have some profit at beginning of your game, you can start playing and after few minutes the long streak comes and it's all over. Using another methods which you don't double your bet every loss are better.

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Your chances of winning with martingale are the same as normal. The only difference is that martingale may seem safe because you're starting with very small bets and any early losses can be mitigated. This gives you a false sense of security. In reality you will sooner or later hit a streak and that will be the end. In martingale you can lose 2 - 3 times in a row and get it all erased with a single win, but the problem starts when you hit 5 or 6 losses and run out of money. What then?

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I already tried to play with martingale but to be honest i don't gain profit instead i lose them all i tried to follow and also analyze the game after making the 6 straight lose trying to cool on betting to see your friend that you didn't give up on betting after loosing my bankroll i never tried playing with martingale im much more better to follow what i want in betting.

If you are having a bigger balance then you should win if you are playing according to your bank roll. I used to play martingale with a good balance and i am never in a loss because all my calculations are up to the point so that i do not bust even if hit 17 reds in 2x and if i hit the 17 red points i will still recover but my profit will take a hit.

Yes is what I'm thinking as well. You need to have a bigger balance to order to maximize this system. Because if you have only a small bankroll, you will surely lost everything. I tried to used this as well, but since I only have a small bankroll, it never materialized in my end. So I came into conclusion that to lessen the risk of losing everything in the long run, having a huge bankroll will help even you if have a losing streak and recover it one you take a hit after a successive lost.

Yes, your huge bankroll will play an important role in deciding your success while you are using Martingale strategy but the catch here must need, like many gamblers claim you might need bigger bankroll than the gambling house.

This is just a theoretical approach because we cannot be sure how long the losing streak will persist. Some gamblers are coming up and claiming that they were facing continuous 30+ losing streaks. So, we cannot be sure to withstand a continuous losing streak with a martingale strategy. It means only infinite bankroll could save us.

In short, beating gambling house through martingale strategy seems impossible as the ball is in their court. We could not do anything about it.

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Quote from: molsewid on March 11, 2017, 11:31:40 PM

I already tried to play with martingale but to be honest i don't gain profit instead i lose them all i tried to follow and also analyze the game after making the 6 straight lose trying to cool on betting to see your friend that you didn't give up on betting after loosing my bankroll i never tried playing with martingale im much more better to follow what i want in betting.

If you are having a bigger balance then you should win if you are playing according to your bank roll. I used to play martingale with a good balance and i am never in a loss because all my calculations are up to the point so that i do not bust even if hit 17 reds in 2x and if i hit the 17 red points i will still recover but my profit will take a hit.

Yes is what I'm thinking as well. You need to have a bigger balance to order to maximize this system. Because if you have only a small bankroll, you will surely lost everything. I tried to used this as well, but since I only have a small bankroll, it never materialized in my end. So I came into conclusion that to lessen the risk of losing everything in the long run, having a huge bankroll will help even you if have a losing streak and recover it one you take a hit after a successive lost.

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huge bankroll still has a limit , so it would still never work to earn profit . at some point you got a losing streaks and that time the whole bankroll you have just gone in a couple seconds, martingale betting system was never ever be a good strategy it's even the worst strategy to sucks your money faster in regret. even you know when to stop , when you do martingale continuously in the next days , it's useless.

There is no otherway but to do a forced stop whenever you win after a long losing streak. That is the best strategy for martingale in order to book a winnings. If we keep on going with this method without stopping, then we can just find our bankroll emptied since martingale is disastrous in the long run.

well if you can manage to quit after maybe hitting 3 times might possible to earn little coming from this system because staying for a long period will really messed up with your bankroll, better to be contented with small winnings than to lose everything you've got.

this assuming that you can win many times in a row, but the worst thing arrive when you lose and you want to keep betting because you want at least one win, no strategy work at that point, it's you against the system and your emotions will kill your profit

Having three conswcutive times of winning in gambling is hard and very unexpected to happen .Well it also happens but if you are a lucky person that day .The system is also depends for the games like sportsbetting which the result is based on live or real sport winner. Martingle stratedgy is hard if it is not fit to the kind of gambling.
Assurance is wehn you win take your caital and some profit .and play only small amount of your previous winning.

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huge bankroll still has a limit , so it would still never work to earn profit . at some point you got a losing streaks and that time the whole bankroll you have just gone in a couple seconds, martingale betting system was never ever be a good strategy it's even the worst strategy to sucks your money faster in regret. even you know when to stop , when you do martingale continuously in the next days , it's useless.

There is no otherway but to do a forced stop whenever you win after a long losing streak. That is the best strategy for martingale in order to book a winnings. If we keep on going with this method without stopping, then we can just find our bankroll emptied since martingale is disastrous in the long run.

well if you can manage to quit after maybe hitting 3 times might possible to earn little coming from this system because staying for a long period will really messed up with your bankroll, better to be contented with small winnings than to lose everything you've got.

this assuming that you can win many times in a row, but the worst thing arrive when you lose and you want to keep betting because you want at least one win, no strategy work at that point, it's you against the system and your emotions will kill your profit

Using bot does not involve emotion at all but still we are not successful with this method, it will only prove that there is no guaranteed method to win in gambling especially when you are playing in games where house edge exist. I'm not new to that system as when I was a newbie I was also curious and tried the method, but unfortunately I failed that's why I will say that it's not working for longer gambling activity.

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huge bankroll still has a limit , so it would still never work to earn profit . at some point you got a losing streaks and that time the whole bankroll you have just gone in a couple seconds, martingale betting system was never ever be a good strategy it's even the worst strategy to sucks your money faster in regret. even you know when to stop , when you do martingale continuously in the next days , it's useless.

There is no otherway but to do a forced stop whenever you win after a long losing streak. That is the best strategy for martingale in order to book a winnings. If we keep on going with this method without stopping, then we can just find our bankroll emptied since martingale is disastrous in the long run.

well if you can manage to quit after maybe hitting 3 times might possible to earn little coming from this system because staying for a long period will really messed up with your bankroll, better to be contented with small winnings than to lose everything you've got.

this assuming that you can win many times in a row, but the worst thing arrive when you lose and you want to keep betting because you want at least one win, no strategy work at that point, it's you against the system and your emotions will kill your profit

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Martingale system is easy to play, double the bet amount when you lose, it is too thrilled, but easy to be broke. I like Fabonacci system, which is proven profitable if you have decent strategy.

Now what is fabonacci system is it something new or maybe I never heard of. But I have tried martingale system but I don't think in general I have won so much from it , basically I don't there is any sort of method which can help you always win in gambling as it is basically luck if it works for one they will tell this method works but basically it's just luck.

It's Fibonacci system, mathematical system. Here we need more calculations to use this strategy in gambling. But this is not user-friendly, and it is not more popular like martingale system. Very less people use this method in card games or roulette games. I heard this method but never used it. I don't understand how it will work, so I have not tried this method. If any know this method, please explain in detail it will help people to make some money in gambling.

Ok now that's a bit different method but at end of the day i never really care for all these methods as i still and will believe in future that gambling is pure luck no matter how many calculations we do and what strategy we use. Plus i wouldn't even care for this strategy because i mostly gamble on dice sites and sometimes blackjack.

This is right theres no method that is designed to work for longer terms thats why most gamblers do play everyday and keeps on formulating or seeking for new methods that do work or profitable on playing gambling but sadly on reality most of them or all are busted on the end which is not new on gambling world. Martingale is just a common method that have been used in the past up to now.

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Martingale system is easy to play, double the bet amount when you lose, it is too thrilled, but easy to be broke. I like Fabonacci system, which is proven profitable if you have decent strategy.

Now what is fabonacci system is it something new or maybe I never heard of. But I have tried martingale system but I don't think in general I have won so much from it , basically I don't there is any sort of method which can help you always win in gambling as it is basically luck if it works for one they will tell this method works but basically it's just luck.

It's Fibonacci system, mathematical system. Here we need more calculations to use this strategy in gambling. But this is not user-friendly, and it is not more popular like martingale system. Very less people use this method in card games or roulette games. I heard this method but never used it. I don't understand how it will work, so I have not tried this method. If any know this method, please explain in detail it will help people to make some money in gambling.

Ok now that's a bit different method but at end of the day i never really care for all these methods as i still and will believe in future that gambling is pure luck no matter how many calculations we do and what strategy we use. Plus i wouldn't even care for this strategy because i mostly gamble on dice sites and sometimes blackjack.

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Matingale will only give us a negative experience in gambling if it's not use with proper timing, there are games where we can effective employ this method, games such as sports betting because we can analyze it prior to putting our bets unlike dice where there is a house edge.
Games with house edge does not require a betting method but luck, if you are lucky winning comes easy regardless of the method.

It still doesn't work. House Edge very little effect on why martingale is viable or not.
All bets averages out to the house edge in the long run, but you will may not see it in time.
It is the mathematical formula behind this method which is flawed to begin with.
I didn't meet any sport bettors who by using martingale + analyze cracked the perfect way to break the system...

There is a thread here that uses martingale on a sports betting. You can find it in this section. The only effective strategy for martingale is to quit or force stop when you won after several losses. Playing martingale for a very long time will only make you lose all of your bankroll. A proper strategy must be use in every method to be able to make the best out of this method.

IMO using martiangle on sport betting is not worth to try since the match has unexpected result even they are experience for predicting the result.
Martiangle should be fit on game like poker or dice which enable to see the result faster and respond your act after the result occur

Really disagree with your opinion mate. Actually martingale strategy is better to use in sports betting rather than other games, especially dice (You will lose all of your money immediatelly). Have you tried to analyze in sportbetting before? The result still depends from luck, but you have higher potential winnings when you feel your analyze is good. It's not about how faster you can see the result, but more about how big your potential winnings in gambling.

I agree there is some thread of sportsbetting here using a martingale system. I think it is an NBA games. And there is a proof that martingle works best on it. Since it is affected by data and analyzing stats, there is a possibility that this martingale method will works best. Just one right prediction and you will end up with a profit.

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huge bankroll still has a limit , so it would still never work to earn profit . at some point you got a losing streaks and that time the whole bankroll you have just gone in a couple seconds, martingale betting system was never ever be a good strategy it's even the worst strategy to sucks your money faster in regret. even you know when to stop , when you do martingale continuously in the next days , it's useless.

There is no otherway but to do a forced stop whenever you win after a long losing streak. That is the best strategy for martingale in order to book a winnings. If we keep on going with this method without stopping, then we can just find our bankroll emptied since martingale is disastrous in the long run.

well if you can manage to quit after maybe hitting 3 times might possible to earn little coming from this system because staying for a long period will really messed up with your bankroll, better to be contented with small winnings than to lose everything you've got.

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Matingale will only give us a negative experience in gambling if it's not use with proper timing, there are games where we can effective employ this method, games such as sports betting because we can analyze it prior to putting our bets unlike dice where there is a house edge.
Games with house edge does not require a betting method but luck, if you are lucky winning comes easy regardless of the method.

It still doesn't work. House Edge very little effect on why martingale is viable or not.
All bets averages out to the house edge in the long run, but you will may not see it in time.
It is the mathematical formula behind this method which is flawed to begin with.
I didn't meet any sport bettors who by using martingale + analyze cracked the perfect way to break the system...

There is a thread here that uses martingale on a sports betting. You can find it in this section. The only effective strategy for martingale is to quit or force stop when you won after several losses. Playing martingale for a very long time will only make you lose all of your bankroll. A proper strategy must be use in every method to be able to make the best out of this method.

IMO using martiangle on sport betting is not worth to try since the match has unexpected result even they are experience for predicting the result.
Martiangle should be fit on game like poker or dice which enable to see the result faster and respond your act after the result occur

Really disagree with your opinion mate. Actually martingale strategy is better to use in sports betting rather than other games, especially dice (You will lose all of your money immediatelly). Have you tried to analyze in sportbetting before? The result still depends from luck, but you have higher potential winnings when you feel your analyze is good. It's not about how faster you can see the result, but more about how big your potential winnings in gambling.

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Quote from: poplolnman on March 15, 2017, 06:56:21 PM

huge bankroll still has a limit , so it would still never work to earn profit . at some point you got a losing streaks and that time the whole bankroll you have just gone in a couple seconds, martingale betting system was never ever be a good strategy it's even the worst strategy to sucks your money faster in regret. even you know when to stop , when you do martingale continuously in the next days , it's useless.

There is no otherway but to do a forced stop whenever you win after a long losing streak. That is the best strategy for martingale in order to book a winnings. If we keep on going with this method without stopping, then we can just find our bankroll emptied since martingale is disastrous in the long run.

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But if we consider gambling just a luck game (98% luck game), any strategy will lead us to the bankrrupcy, no?

Martingale or any other method you use to bet, sooner or later you will lose your balance, on long term it's impossible to beat the house. Sometimes one or another gambler claims to win on long term, but I'm not really sure about this.

The fact is you cannot measure your luck and you cannot even determine when it will stay when you feel you are lucky, when luck comes to us we should know that it's only temporary and that is why sometimes we win if we are discipline too. Martingale is a from of bankroll management and like any other forms, it will not help you to win but your ability to select games and predict it right most of the time will.

you don't need to measure your luck to be able to win. you just need to be lucky and have luck on your side.
and in martingale system you can never have luck on your side because you are playing against the house with a house edge and that means the edge is giving your luck to the house instead and makes them win specially in the long run.

i don't get it , what do you mean about the edge is giving your luck to the house? it's clearly luck just an illusion that can't proven it's existence it's just my opinion by the way, and also pretty clear that martingale have been studied would never work with the limited bankroll , it's means there's no way you can get profit with this martingale betting system.

with a huge bankroll and patience to keep it little even you are tempted to try much bigger stake will allow you to extend your chances to earn some profits, but like what many said its luck that will make you a huge one, and most of the time even you really try it hard martingale will still fails you if you dont know when to stop.

huge bankroll still has a limit , so it would still never work to earn profit . at some point you got a losing streaks and that time the whole bankroll you have just gone in a couple seconds, martingale betting system was never ever be a good strategy it's even the worst strategy to sucks your money faster in regret. even you know when to stop , when you do martingale continuously in the next days , it's useless.

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I know how it is hard to make profits in gambling, we are willing to try everything, ways that can help us to win and there is no wrong in hoping. For me, having a big bank roll is required if you really want to play in a long run and make some profits whatever happens. This system can work but not as always.

It's for real, we know that there are a lot of ways,tips and strategies that are coming out just give us bigger chance of win. I want to support with what you said, if you'll use martingale it is still not enough to get some good win on it because you will probably end up fast when you don't have a bigger and good amount of bankroll.

Matingale will only give us a negative experience in gambling if it's not use with proper timing, there are games where we can effective employ this method, games such as sports betting because we can analyze it prior to putting our bets unlike dice where there is a house edge.
Games with house edge does not require a betting method but luck, if you are lucky winning comes easy regardless of the method.

Yes, that's what we need upon using martingale. Because there are people no doubt that are experiencing good results upon using martingale strategy. But I know that it is not happening for the most of us and those lucky guys that are using this strategy are very few. And still gambling will always a luck and skill base game where it's hard to predict when you'll be one of the winner.

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Quote from: Harry Callahan on March 12, 2017, 11:41:29 AM

Quote from: molsewid on March 11, 2017, 11:31:40 PM

I already tried to play with martingale but to be honest i don't gain profit instead i lose them all i tried to follow and also analyze the game after making the 6 straight lose trying to cool on betting to see your friend that you didn't give up on betting after loosing my bankroll i never tried playing with martingale im much more better to follow what i want in betting.

If you are having a bigger balance then you should win if you are playing according to your bank roll. I used to play martingale with a good balance and i am never in a loss because all my calculations are up to the point so that i do not bust even if hit 17 reds in 2x and if i hit the 17 red points i will still recover but my profit will take a hit.

There are incidents that people even hit over 30 continuous reds which are almost double what you have a fixed the limit for 17 reds. In this method, you should be very careful because it is probably fair game and you can't estimate how many reds can get continuously unless if you're ready to stop your game after 17 continuous losses and take the losses.

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