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Quote from: Smartvirus on December 04, 2020, 01:56:24 AM

The near success syndrome

There is this near success syndrome that is associated with compilation or multiple bets. I'm damned sure most bettors who use the accumulated bet strategy must have experienced this a few or lots of times and it usually feels so disappointing and the day begins to feel like it's not one of your best days. The thing is,

"In an accumulated bet, why is it often the last games that goes rugged and you end up loosing what's supposed to be a best bet and was already preparing for a cash out or the next step"

It's always never funny when this happens. What's the trick about it, is it that, bookmarkers just knows and tends to push the game to the last in the series for an accumulated bet option or it's really bad luck, if there is such a thing as bad luck or other reasons. What really is the trick about this scenario.

Nope. It's literally designed that way.

If you think of each betslip as a negative EV event (which is true for the average bettor since the sportsbook obviously has to make money on spreads), accumulating them using a multi/parlay/accumulator bet just magnifies your inherent disadvantages.

Whether the last bet that you were hoping to win loses or not is entirely luck. No point being superstitious about this stuff.

Remember that human brains take tough losses and represent them as more frequent than they actually occur. So if you are especially distraught after you lose the last leg of your multi, then you are likely to think that it happens far more often than it actually does.

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No trick, stop blaming the bookmakers in scenarios like this tbh, to put it simply, you're just making an excuse when losing due to luck doesn't even need an excuse, it is simply what it is. Near success syndrome isn't only experienced in gambling, it's quite literally everywhere. No need to push yourself to the bottom of a self-deprecating pit blaming a third party for a depressing bet fails, and instead, just look up and move on. What if scenarios are just that, what ifs. Honestly, the first step is hard ngl, but past that? You should be quite capable by then.

Quote from: bitbollo on December 05, 2020, 02:31:51 AM

the same strategy is also used with scratch cards. if the "super number" jackpot, it is a "90", for sure you will find in your card to scratch a 89 and 91. because you have meanwhile the sensation to getting very close to the big target.
game designers and generally in gambling this is a well known factor and apply with so many games... and since each time you feeling like "close win" you will feel comfortable and playing more. This is why I play always single match Wink

and very very rarely a multiple bets.

Don't scratch card makers intentionally do that, to create the mindset of what op has said, near success? Cause really, there isn't much difference between a card where the jackpot is 90, and what you get is 89 on one, and 1 on the other. It's just a play of the makers, and they aren't honestly doing anything wrong, well, they're attacking gullible players maybe, but hey, afaik everything is fair in business. It's a dog eat dog world out there.

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the same strategy is also used with scratch cards. if the "super number" jackpot, it is a "90", for sure you will find in your card to scratch a 89 and 91. because you have meanwhile the sensation to getting very close to the big target.
game designers and generally in gambling this is a well known factor and apply with so many games... and since each time you feeling like "close win" you will feel comfortable and playing more. This is why I play always single match Wink

and very very rarely a multiple bets.

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Quote from: MCobian on December 05, 2020, 12:01:38 AM

Don't think too negatively, what you experience is normal and I have experienced it too. Do not think too much and
end up stressing you out, what happens to you is just bad luck. There are no tricks, nor rigged. My advice is just move on,
which anyone can experience it. Because basically gambling is based on luck, that's what you need to remember.

Somebody once had told me bookmakers do plan to not allow someone wins a game, for instance, if a bettors got 10 out of 11 running accumulated bets, said the bookmakers will find a way to reach the players of that club to play in a different ways in order to spoil out the game plan. That's someone believe, its not tricks, it'd just happened, and you have to move on.
A particular bettor has his own lucky special days to win,

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Quote from: MCobian on December 05, 2020, 12:01:38 AM

Don't think too negatively, what you experience is normal and I have experienced it too. Do not think too much and
end up stressing you out, what happens to you is just bad luck. There are no tricks, nor rigged. My advice is just move on,
which anyone can experience it. Because basically gambling is based on luck, that's what you need to remember.

We all did.

We lost and we win, there is no wage or bet with a 100% possibility of winning. We only have the higher odds and the lower odds, the higher risks you take the higher profit you could bet from that wage. Each team or players could influence the game that could turn that odds around, the same as those players, we only have 2 results to wait.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on December 04, 2020, 10:06:34 PM

It is not about luck either. It just so happened that the team which is expected to win and which you placed a bet on didn't make it.

Depends on the match, it could be related to luck because when you take a favorite that's leading in every stats (offense/defense) then lose you can't just say that "it happened" knowing that the match is out of your control.

Quote from: btc78 on December 04, 2020, 10:48:59 PM

And don't Make gambling activity too serious because this is supposedly Happy moment because if you are not Happy in Playing then Stop it and look for another place in which your days and spending brings happiness and not frustration and eagerness.

That's the thing with accumulators, from the start you place a small amount that you can afford but once you start winning most of the matches it becomes serious and if it's your first time gambling you really can't avoid becoming emotional when you're that close to winning.

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Don't think too negatively, what you experience is normal and I have experienced it too. Do not think too much and
end up stressing you out, what happens to you is just bad luck. There are no tricks, nor rigged. My advice is just move on,
which anyone can experience it. Because basically gambling is based on luck, that's what you need to remember.

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Don't Lose hope Mate That's gambling,No one can predict the outcome of each game but at least we enjoy each moment of our bets.
How many times that this Happens to yo?Meaning the majority of your bets turns out like this?
And don't Make gambling activity too serious because this is supposedly Happy moment because if you are not Happy in Playing then Stop it and look for another place in which your days and spending brings happiness and not frustration and eagerness.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on December 04, 2020, 10:06:34 PM

This has nothing to do with the bookmakers. It is not about luck either. It just so happened that the team which is expected to win and which you placed a bet on didn't make it.

I normally collect those matches with very low odds and bet on them using parlay also. But losing often happens. It is very disappointing especially because those odds are too low that they seem to tell me they are sure wins. Well, that's why it is gambling.

The mentalities of parlaying those small odds leads you to lose your money, thinking that underdog is just a free money. Most of the time shit happened and instead of getting good compensation, with just one lose everything will suffer. Not new to this kind of betting big risk with small chance of losing but it turned against you.

Being precise with games that you fully understand, taking advantage with much lesser chance of being busted as you are putting your money where understanding is better.

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This has nothing to do with the bookmakers. It is not about luck either. It just so happened that the team which is expected to win and which you placed a bet on didn't make it.

I normally collect those matches with very low odds and bet on them using parlay also. But losing often happens. It is very disappointing especially because those odds are too low that they seem to tell me they are sure wins. Well, that's why it is gambling.

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I think because of too much greed. I recently experience this kind of problem too after I already won a large amount of profit in just a 10$ deposit I crave more income so I said to my self why not just having the last game or a short game and the problem comes out I want to make more profit or I want to get my money back because on that single game, still, I give my self-doubt and thought its really worth it to make another game just to payback my loss? I think it's not because at the end of the day I still already gained profit.

think twice before taking an action if you already win go ahead and pull it out, if you lose a lot of time, take a break and think twice if you want still to push.

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Quote from: Smartvirus on December 04, 2020, 01:56:24 AM

The near success syndrome

There is this near success syndrome that is associated with compilation or multiple bets. I'm damned sure most bettors who use the accumulated bet strategy must have experienced this a few or lots of times and it usually feels so disappointing and the day begins to feel like it's not one of your best days. The thing is,

"In an accumulated bet, why is it often the last games that goes rugged and you end up loosing what's supposed to be a best bet and was already preparing for a cash out or the next step"

It's always never funny when this happens. What's the trick about it, is it that, bookmarkers just knows and tends to push the game to the last in the series for an accumulated bet option or it's really bad luck, if there is such a thing as bad luck or other reasons. What really is the trick about this scenario.

This is the main reason why I stopped playing gambling. Whenever I win, the next roll would be a loss, and whenever I lost in a row, the next roll would be a win. It's like the gambling house knows what I'm thinking, and they know how to set a trap for us to be more addicted on their games. I don't know if I'm paranoid or not but it's like the whole game is manually monitored and whenever you bet big, for sure you're going to lose most of the time and it's going to be the other way around when you bet small amount.

This is very infuriating every time I played gambling way back then. But the thing I've learned is that whatever amount of you've lost, complaining and competing against the house is not worthy at all.

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Quote from: Smartvirus on December 04, 2020, 01:56:24 AM

The near success syndrome

"In an accumulated bet, why is it often the last games that goes rugged and you end up loosing what's supposed to be a best bet and was already preparing for a cash out or the next step"

It's always never funny when this happens. What's the trick about it, is it that, bookmarkers just knows and tends to push the game to the last in the series for an accumulated bet option or it's really bad luck, if there is such a thing as bad luck or other reasons. What really is the trick about this scenario.

I can relate to that, I heard and read countless stories like that including mine, similar to my experience is horse racing on a winner take all format I have bad experiences of me losing the 7th races so many times when I thought the 7th race is the easiest race to predict, but this is something that you have to take as it is, it's a bitter pill to swallow, but in gambling, you will have to swallow a lot of this.

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Looks like coincidence mate though for how many times that you experience that?or Maybe it is a Mindset since for couple of times the Ending is like this that's why you have already a conclusion that here we go again.

But it's really frustrating that when we are almost completing the Game then the ending we are the loser.

But surely we all can feel you because we have all times like that though maybe not same chances of time.

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Quote from: crzy on December 04, 2020, 06:10:10 PM

Not their lucky day for sure, almost winning the game and yet they failed to do so well this is gambling and that’s a sports where everything can happen so don’t over confident. If you think this one is a trick then you don’t understand much the gambling. Know when to take profit on gambling and in sports, just keep consistent.

Almost winning, but suddenly, everything changed, and we lose what we win before because of just one button or one action. Perhaps, we blame that button that can't help us in the last rounds, but that is what happens in the gambling games. We can't expect to win the most because gambling can change the direction, and we can lose in just one single button.

Overconfidence can be one of many things that we have when we are playing gambling. That makes us forget that we don't have to chase the next win, but we must stop gambling, no matter what it is. Besides overconfidence, greedy can be the next thing that makes us chase the winning.

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Quote from: Smartvirus on December 04, 2020, 07:52:36 AM

My problem with it is when it happens to be just that last game in the series. Is as though, it's been enchanted to scrim pick me to your subconsciousness and you just begin to see possibilities bdo you go for a trier and before you know it, your nervous and shaky all through the 90minute, praying for that one shot or header or own goal that would just save the day and the referee just blows his final whistle but it never happens.
Again, could it be possible for Bookmarkers to have an influence on the game of the day, like the last Chelsea 0-0 Tottenham draw in the EPL following highest picked games?

Seems like you are a very intense person mate,That's why your reaction is really above the others,I sometimes react exaggerating Specially if the Match is too close but not as far as you do,Are you betting for the team or player that you really love?or this is just pure gambling?
Because if this is about your Super Favorite Player/team maybe i can say it was normal but if not?and your Bet is not even a million bucks for this kind of reaction Grin

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Maybe try not to engage in intense Games instead try to Play in calm gambling like Cards maybe.

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it happens to me almost every time I picked multi bets. It's bad for mental health.
because it's like it pushes you to have high expectations about it, and then you just fall down.
it will ruin your day, more stake more time to recover from your stress time because of this kind of situation. Grin

check on this thread for your reference:
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Probably this is just what we call "Gamblers Fallacy". So as others have said, there is no trick, it's just the mind tricking us into believing that we can still win and we discounted the fact that everything is base on luck. That it can be influence be by past events, so we believed that we really know what would be the next outcome, so it's an error on our part to rely on this fallacy.

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Quote from: ralle14 on December 04, 2020, 03:24:05 AM

There's no trick behind it, I want to say it's mostly bad luck because you never know when will the team have a bad day and at the same underdogs stepping up their performance (hitting career highs). Sometimes there are certain factors like injuries and the schedule for example if the team is playing 3 games in 5 days. The actual win rate on parlays is just smaller overall whenever we add a match it only becomes significantly harder even if we take all of the big favorites.

Not their lucky day for sure, almost winning the game and yet they failed to do so well this is gambling and that’s a sports where everything can happen so don’t over confident. If you think this one is a trick then you don’t understand much the gambling. Know when to take profit on gambling and in sports, just keep consistent.

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For me it is not a trick, it is a result of uncontrollable urge of the gamblers to win huge money. If they can control themselves they would be able to stop slipping that loss unto their hands. They would be able to take home that profit, it is not the bookmakers, it is not the luck that you have since if you would just control yourself there is no problem.

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