HOW WE CAN SLOWLY BOOST BITCOINS TOWARDS MASS ADOPTION

Cryddit

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Quote from: gaston909 on November 03, 2013, 09:12:30 AM

I tried asking my currency broker if they could supply me with some bitcoins. (They are a currency broker after all)

It didn't go down well.

You expected it might? You're basically talking about a worldwide payment system that undercuts him. Adoption of bitcoin would hurt his business.

Currency brokers are unlikely to be helpful. Bitcoin makes them obsolete.

gjgjg

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Quote from: AnonyMint on November 25, 2013, 06:55:03 PM

Quote from: Light on November 25, 2013, 05:50:39 AM

Mass adoption requires time and for more people to see the benefits of using it in comparison to fiat currency. It also requires less obstruction by governments which is exactly opposite to what is actually happening in the real world. I suppose BTC is going to go one way or the other; up or ground zero.

The comparison to fiat means Bitcoin transactions fail big time:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/economics-of-transactions-in-bitcoin-is-a-fail-346787

And you all also entirely missed the point I made which is Bitcoin is held in large amounts by investors, and investors don't spend their BTC on transactions (much, maybe 1 - 5% of their holdings at most) and instead FX cash to fiat after gains have been reached. Thus you can never distribute the currency out to the people who want to spend. When the investors begin cashing out, the price will collapse towards and very near to 0. If you don't understand this mechanism, then review all my posts over the past weeks. I don't have time to repeat all the logic again here.

youre right, its an investors game right now, why spend 1 btc today at 915$ when it could be worth $1000 tomorrow?
once the price starts to stabilise and ppl get paid in btc ppl will start spending in shops.

AnonyMint

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Quote from: knarzo on November 25, 2013, 07:10:02 PM

Quote from: AnonyMint on November 25, 2013, 06:55:03 PM

Quote from: Light on November 25, 2013, 05:50:39 AM

Mass adoption requires time and for more people to see the benefits of using it in comparison to fiat currency. It also requires less obstruction by governments which is exactly opposite to what is actually happening in the real world. I suppose BTC is going to go one way or the other; up or ground zero.

The comparison to fiat means Bitcoin transactions fail big time:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/economics-of-transactions-in-bitcoin-is-a-fail-346787

And you all also entirely missed the point I made which is Bitcoin is held in large amounts by investors, and investors don't spend their BTC on transactions (much, maybe 1 - 5% of their holdings at most) and instead FX cash to fiat after gains have been reached. Thus you can never distribute the currency out to the people who want to spend. When the investors begin cashing out, the price will collapse towards and very near to 0. If you don't understand this mechanism, then review all my posts over the past weeks. I don't have time to repeat all the logic again here.

Nobody asked you to repeat 'your' logic. Maybe you haven't recognized that Wink

So your very mature, logical retort is stick your fingers in your ears and yell "na-na, na-na, na-na". Got it Wink

knarzo

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Quote from: AnonyMint on November 25, 2013, 06:55:03 PM

Quote from: Light on November 25, 2013, 05:50:39 AM

Mass adoption requires time and for more people to see the benefits of using it in comparison to fiat currency. It also requires less obstruction by governments which is exactly opposite to what is actually happening in the real world. I suppose BTC is going to go one way or the other; up or ground zero.

The comparison to fiat means Bitcoin transactions fail big time:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/economics-of-transactions-in-bitcoin-is-a-fail-346787

And you all also entirely missed the point I made which is Bitcoin is held in large amounts by investors, and investors don't spend their BTC on transactions (much, maybe 1 - 5% of their holdings at most) and instead FX cash to fiat after gains have been reached. Thus you can never distribute the currency out to the people who want to spend. When the investors begin cashing out, the price will collapse towards and very near to 0. If you don't understand this mechanism, then review all my posts over the past weeks. I don't have time to repeat all the logic again here.

Nobody asked you to repeat 'your' logic. Maybe you haven't recognized that Wink

AnonyMint

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Quote from: Light on November 25, 2013, 05:50:39 AM

Mass adoption requires time and for more people to see the benefits of using it in comparison to fiat currency. It also requires less obstruction by governments which is exactly opposite to what is actually happening in the real world. I suppose BTC is going to go one way or the other; up or ground zero.

The comparison to fiat means Bitcoin transactions fail big time:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/economics-of-transactions-in-bitcoin-is-a-fail-346787

And you all also entirely missed the point I made which is Bitcoin is held in large amounts by investors, and investors don't spend their BTC on transactions (much, maybe 1 - 5% of their holdings at most) and instead FX cash to fiat after gains have been reached. Thus you can never distribute the currency out to the people who want to spend. When the investors begin cashing out, the price will collapse towards and very near to 0. If you don't understand this mechanism, then review all my posts over the past weeks. I don't have time to repeat all the logic again here.

troy112

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The only thing you fan do is try and educate every one about it, but you can't force anybody. Its a big change for them. I have tried to send some mails to e-commerce with bitcoin guide and all.. Some have replied they'll see to it. Others are just ignoring it. They will understand in time Wink

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I have seen one major website in Belgium adopt Bitcoin recently: pizza.be

It basically allows you to buy food from any restaurant listed with Bitcoin

Examples:
In Brussels there are now 113 restaurants accepting Bitcoin for online orders

Lewis2

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The masses get scared off by the huge value of a single Bitcoin. It is not understandable for someone that doesn't understand that it can be a legit valuta that you would pay 0.005 for a cup of coffee. Understanding takes time mostly, and it takes people that understand Bitcoin to spread the message. Get away from the desk and spread the love.

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Mass adoption requires time and for more people to see the benefits of using it in comparison to fiat currency. It also requires less obstruction by governments which is exactly opposite to what is actually happening in the real world. I suppose BTC is going to go one way or the other; up or ground zero.

AnonyMint

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The masses have no desire to use this scary volatile thing as a currency (evidence Bitpay which claims to take all the FX risk away), only as a get-rich-quick lotto bet.

You can't accomplish what your OP desires to. Impossible. The concentration of Bitcoins makes this impossible.

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Quote from: seafarer124 on November 03, 2013, 11:43:52 AM

I really don't know why merchants do not accept BTC, they have nothing to lose and plenty to gain. Maybe, the thought of the unknown.

It's a "scary new currency", they have plenty to lose.

But yeah, if i was a merchant i would definetly accept bitcoin. I consider it to be very profitable in the long run.

nate008

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My personal approach has been to push everyone that I know in the E-Commerce space towards adoption - it's a no-brainer - paypal and the banks have shafted them long enough

Bitpay's latest data showing adoption by over 10,000 merchants and $6.4mn in action in September helps make that pitch (was on TC)

You can have 100 millions merchants , what it matters is if the clients pay with btc , those numbers from bitpay are all related to mining rigs

seafarer124

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I have sent a few emails to merchants. With the email I have sent a link to BitPay, and other links which may be relevant to their business.

I really don't know why merchants do not accept BTC, they have nothing to lose and plenty to gain. Maybe, the thought of the unknown.

I have never received any replies to my emails.

One day they will realise the benefits, especially if you are transacting internationally.

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Quote from: gaston909 on November 03, 2013, 09:12:30 AM

I tried asking my currency broker if they could supply me with some bitcoins. (They are a currency broker after all)

It didn't go down well.

My business is going elsewhere!

fantastic

imrer

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You can't force people to use it. Just do your job and they'll understand... More successful bitcoin users will be more people would like to be like them -> bigger adoption.

honky1492

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Asking support if a online shop accepts Bitcoin is the way to go.

Also, buy with your BTC so merchants have reason to keep Bitcoin option

gaston909

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I tried asking my currency broker if they could supply me with some bitcoins. (They are a currency broker after all)

It didn't go down well.

My business is going elsewhere!

Trade101

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bitcoin use in M-Pesa (mobile payment system in Africa) could be also a step into
mass adoption

gjgjg

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i sent them and a few other retailers a mail just innocently asking if they take BTC because 'i heard that they did from a friend'.

if you get them to do the research of BTC themselves they are far more likely to get interested in it than if you provide them the answers up front: they feel like youre trying to recruit them if you do and psychologically it doesnt work:)

edit: they emailed back to say theyre looking into it

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Just get the word out, like you're doing now.

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